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Location: Wausau | With the talk of using salt water reels for dubba 10's - 13's - I heard from two different sources that a reel company is working on a levelwind reel with the same gear components and line pick up as the original - any truth?
Just wondering if I should hold off a purchase. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Just talked to a rep at Shimano. They do not even train their reps until 2 weeks before a new product goes on the market. Then the company does not announce the new product until it is actually available.
He shared alot of thoughts about this whole "HS saltwater reel" craze, impact of spool width, difference between Torium/Trinidad, backlashes, etc.....
I will post that info in near future. |
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| Unless there is another use for a huge reel with a levelwind don't expect to see one. The musky market is not big enough for a maker to make a reel like that IMHO. |
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| Showing my ignorance here, but what advantage is there to not having a levelwind? Never fished with one that does not have it. How do they keep the line from bunching up?
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| THe advantages are that they cast farther becase there is not the level wind taking away energy from the spool. Surf casters like them because to them distance is everything. In the bigger salt water reels the thicker line generally levels itself pretty good but when you go to smaller lines you need to help guide it with your fingers. |
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Location: Minn. | Also,
Also, Saltwater fish swim up to 60 mph, and the levelwind can't keep up to the amount of line going out. There
would be a lot of friction on the levelwind and wear on the line.
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Shimano rep says it's all about learning to properly put the line back on the reel with your thumb, regardless of spool width. It's a skill that would need to be mastered. These guys, though, are using mono....not sure how superbraid will make a difference. |
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Location: Wausau | I'm still trying to learn more about what line to use if I do choose to try a non levelwind reel. So far, the only suggesstion was Diawa 100 lb Samurai 8.
Any other good lines? |
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| cortland masterbraid (bronzeback) |
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| A level wind has to keep up to the line going out since it is connected directly to the spool via gears, there would be no way of line going out faster than the level wind moved. Plus a spool can go up to 30,000rpm's during a cast. I don't know how fast that is in MPH but it's gotta be pretty fast! |
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| Cowboyhannah - 2/26/2008 11:07 AM
These guys, though, are using mono....not sure how superbraid will make a difference.
Why not use mono, or floro?
It is nice and round so should spool better, floro stretch is not all that bad, abrasion resistance is better which is important with no levelwind, and at the high speeds the bait will be traveling I don't think you would have to worry too much about the mono costing you fish |
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| Level-winds can lock up under extreme pressure, it's main reason they are not widely used on saltwater reels,,, just another point for failure. Once you've used a non-LW saltwater "conventional" reel for a while, leveling the line becomes second nature so it's not a big deal. One thing about conventional reels, they don't engage into gear when you turn the handle so you have to get used to flipping them back into gear. If casting spectra on a conventional you'll want to tape your thumb and fore finger with cloth medical tape, keeps the spectra from wearing away (soft water logged) skin or slicing your fingers while thumbing the line back on the reel under pressure. While loading spectra on a non-LW it MUST be wound on tight, like 8- 10# of pressure. If spectra digs into itself ugly things can happen, don't load it onto a non-LW reel like mono. All of the saltwater guys I know use mono for casting, either all mono or a topshot of mono long enough to where they don't get into the spectra during the cast. I use a topshot of mono for freshwater, 20' of 40# for trolling and 150' of 25# for casting, mono for a bit of stretch and its cheap/easy to replace every few trips
I use light saltwater conventionals for heavy freshwater fishing (striped bass) and offshore fishing, so I probably have a different point of view than the musky crowd  After 6-7 days of pitching plugs on the conventional reels I got tired of thumbing line back onto the reel so I bought a couple Induron 400's for heavy freshwater casting, but still keep a conventional on the boat as a backup reel.
Edited by Fishrdan 3/2/2008 1:07 AM
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| Trying to decide what line to put on my Saltist. I think I'm going with mono but what # should I use for Muskie? Which is the better choice for this situation mono or fluro. Not sure what the differance is between the two and which is better for muskie.
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Location: Bloomington, MN | I need longer arms and less of a beer gut to use the Shimano Trinidad 16n due to the size of the handle! |
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Salt Water Reels - New Model w/ Levelwind ???