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| Here´s a link to a german pike site with a Big pike
http://www.fisch-reuber-biggesee.de/html/biggeseerekord.html |
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Location: Bloomer, Wi | That thing is huge, too bad they don't grow like that here in WI. |
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Location: Michigan | Those are some Big DEAD Pike... |
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| Did it eat a child??????
Chadster,
Germany has a catch-and-kill policy. No catch-and-release allowed. Their stance is if you are fishing, you are fishing for food. Catching and releasing a fish is considered "cruel" and fines are imposed for anyone caught releasing a fish.
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Location: Bloomer, Wi | is that true ? |
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Location: The desert | Joe Cal - 1/10/2008 7:08 AM
is that true ?
Yes. |
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Location: Bloomer, Wi | they must not have much of a long term plan to keep those big northerns around huh? thats too bad. |
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Location: Norway | 55" and 52,5lbs (A german pfund is 500grams whereas a "real" pound is 453,5grams)
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Location: Yahara River Chain | I heard it was really caught on Rainy Lake.  |
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| they must not have much of a long term plan to keep those big northerns around huh? thats too bad.
one of our European members could probably answer this better, but i believe northerns are generally considered "trash" fish, and receive very little fishing pressure, thus allowing them to grow pretty big.
i thought i read that in one of the articles in EA about fishing pike over there?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | HUGE fish. |
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Location: Minocqua, WI | There was an In-Fisherman article published sometime in 2007 (April/May I think) about European Pike and they were claiming that some European Nations are sort of conservation-minded with these Pike.
Examples are England, Ireland, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Denmark. Some other places too.
Sean is right with the "Catch & Kill" policy with Germany. Russia and Austria is like that too.
Seven of the world's top-twenty Pike have been caught in Germany, and they were probably killed. Largest on record is a 67-pounder. (according to a list in the magazine)
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Location: The desert | lambeau - 1/10/2008 8:43 AM
they must not have much of a long term plan to keep those big northerns around huh? thats too bad.
one of our European members could probably answer this better, but i believe northerns are generally considered "trash" fish, and receive very little fishing pressure, thus allowing them to grow pretty big.
i thought i read that in one of the articles in EA about fishing pike over there?
You're correct. A lot of times they are in their Rainbow Trout lakes and gorge themselves on the trout which helps add to their ridiculous size. |
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Location: Lincoln UK | Germany does have a catch and kill policy (thanks strangely to the Green Party) however there is a large and growing faction that is rather more enlightened that practice catch and release. It may technically be against the law but the law was brought in by crazies so is ignored by those who care about their sport.
With regard to Pike in trout waters studies have shown that trout make up only about 20% of a trout water pikes diet, far easier to chase baitfish than faster rainbows. Trout water certainly in the UK have actually woken up to the fact that having large preds in their waters improve the quality of the trout in them, thinning out the sick and stunted. They also benefit from the extra revenue generated by pike anglers paying to fish on them too.
Nowhere in Europe are pike counted as trash fish.
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Go to http://www.esoxhunter.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=806 THE BIG ONES ARE IN THE BALTIC SEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: The desert | Thanks for the info Chico! I, like Lambeau, remember reading an article about how the pike is considered a trash fish, but its good to hear that things are changing, and that some conservation is going on! Would love to get over there and fish Pike! |
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| Man those things are huge! I sure wouldn't complain about catching pike if they looked like that! |
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Location: Lincoln UK | Pike a trash fish, dig the article up I'd love to see it.
Take the big one's out of the water and I suppose they could be seen as a trash fish in some places. |
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Location: The desert | I'll take a look and see if I can find it....dont remember exactly where I read that....but I was obviously misinformed. |
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| Rainy Lake!! That is hilarious! When I saw the title of the post I thought "Here we go again with that stupid European pic and Rainy lake again" |
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Location: The desert | Musky53 - 1/10/2008 3:15 PM
Rainy Lake!! That is hilarious! When I saw the title of the post I thought "Here we go again with that stupid European pic and Rainy lake again"
Wasnt that one caught after it ate a huge 36 incher at boatside??? 
I hate that pike and all the emails its been in! |
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| esox50 - 1/10/2008 6:58 AM
Did it eat a child??????
Chadster,
Germany has a catch-and-kill policy. No catch-and-release allowed. Their stance is if you are fishing, you are fishing for food. Catching and releasing a fish is considered "cruel" and fines are imposed for anyone caught releasing a fish. omg very strange country,but from what i see they still have some very big pike |
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Location: Norway | chico - 1/10/2008 12:21 PM
Nowhere in Europe are pike counted as trash fish.
Ever been to Norway?
By everyday anglers in a trout/salmon lov...no worshipping country, the pike is considered the bad wolf (the fury wolf is also considered trash and must be shot at any cost..) Among hardcore sportsanglers, no fish is considered trash, but how many are we? 1% (Offcourse some of the hardcore salmon/trout trollers hate the greens, and love killing them in ways I cannot tell about and show them of at forums where people like pike)
If you buy a fishing lisence here for salmonfishing, it actually says that you cant shoot, spear, electrify fish, except for pike.
A few years back some PETA people wanted to ban using live nightcrawlers for bait, if that had come thru, the night crawlers would have had more protection(by law) than a pike.
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Location: Warroad, Mn | I once guided a great fisherman from Germany, and what Sean say is apparently true.
From what my client told me it's against the law to fish for the fun of it. Catch and release in Germany is not permitted, and any fish caught must be kept for food. Apparently catch and release fishing is considered cruel. Shows what politicians and tree huggers are capable of.
My friend told me that at one time there where lots of big pike in Germany, and he had caught and released two 50" pike on a fly. Since the change in regulations big pike are now becoming rare. He now mostly fishes the Netherlands, and Sweden.
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Location: mn | thats a big stinker!! |
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| Man,
You would need a 55 gallon drum to pickle that thing!
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| So what are the best countries to get into some big pike? i don't know about you guys but after seeing articles for big pike in Esox mag and these pics I am going to do a big pike trip to Europe before I die!
Big pike are awesome...and here I thought the fish we encountered in northern saskatchewan were big pike...!
sweet pics and interesting policies in place over there...keep the pics comin!
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Location: (South of the 218) | Rainy Lake - are you sure?
I coulda swore it was LOTW....DougJ will tell you he's seen them that size... Right Doug? ......I know I have.@#$%^*&$# - Back in the glory days of Cal's Resort - the south shore and Buffalo was chocked full of swimming monsters....just too many of Roseau County's best "catch and Kill" fishermen during ice-out up at the point.
I do love my LOTW "snakes" though and would give my left leg to come into a hunk of money that would allow me to travel to those parts of Europe that haven't seen my Stump Hawg yet.
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| bn - 1/11/2008 8:13 AM
So what are the best countries to get into some big pike? i don't know about you guys but after seeing articles for big pike in Esox mag and these pics I am going to do a big pike trip to Europe before I die!
Big pike are awesome...and here I thought the fish we encountered in northern saskatchewan were big pike...!
sweet pics and interesting policies in place over there...keep the pics comin!
Italy, Holland, and Ireland get my vote... particularly Italy, for the reason below.
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| Definetly not Italy! Rainy Lake for sure!!! |
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Location: Mille Lacs | Musky53 - 1/11/2008 8:54 AM
Definetly not Italy! Rainy Lake for sure!!!
There's also a small unknown lake in MN that produces big Euro Pike.
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Location: Madtown, WI | Where in Italy??? What times are peak?? I might have a business trip to northern Italy (milan area) in the next month or two...would LOVE to tangle with one of those beasts!!!!
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Location: Germany | the pike on the photo you see was caught in an water supply dam for drink water. the lake is called "Biggesee".
not all the germans practice catch and kill/cook. there are many people who practice catch and release.
look at www.hechtfieber.de, it is a nice site with all about pike fishing. the users at hechtfieber are mostly pactice C&R.
best regards
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| i say just drive to the downtown madison area and fish there.......many big pike that people arent aware of
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Location: Eagle River, Alaska | Chico.....not all "trout" systems are equal and I would love to have reference to studies you mention about pike having little effect on trout populations. Here in Alaska pike are native and very abundant in the interior areas of Alaska but not in the the coastal, or southern part of the state.. Over the last 20 years misguided individuals have transplanted pike into southern waters which has caused enormous destruction of juvenile salmon (especially sockeye) in the lake systems they have infected. Some specific lake sockeye runs have disappeared in less than 10 years and the pike are spreading like wildfire. A few years ago they were found in some of the remote headwater lake drainages of the Kenai River.....and if the cannot be stopped and get into the Kenai River could permenantly damage or annhilate the largest run of king salmon in the world and one of the greatest multiple species trout and salmon fisheries that exist.
Nearly all the lake systems they have been found in are rapidly depleted of nearly all species of trout existing there. In their native areas I love fishing pike but any and all fish can have drastic effects when introduced into non native areas. Certainly we have destroyed enough native freshwater ecosystems to know that.
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| bfunk says: i say just drive to the downtown madison area and fish there.......many big pike that people arent aware of
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ummmmmmmm yah, there are nice pike here...NOT anything like the pike in those pics...those are BIG pike...Mendota doesn't have pike like that...
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| No, Mendota is way hyped up. I wouldn't waste my time there. I hear Ireland is the place to be. |
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| mid to upper 40's are big pike anywhere. ya nothing like europe pike but i dont wanna fly that far |
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| Very cool thread... |
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| yeah those pike definetly took down someone's dog. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | And here's one sent to me by Mark at Okuma. Holy crapin pike.
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