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Location: Corning, Iowa | It's been awhile since I did this. Poured some Envirotec 2 days ago, and it's still not set completely. Still alittle tacky. It was a small amount, so I think I got it 1 to 1. The temp was in the low 60s. Do you think I goofed up, or the temp not right?
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| Allstate48 - 11/28/2007 5:21 PM
It's been awhile since I did this. Poured some Envirotec 2 days ago, and it's still not set completely. Still alittle tacky. It was a small amount, so I think I got it 1 to 1. The temp was in the low 60s. Do you think I goofed up, or the temp not right?
Thanks Doug
sounds to me like your mix was off.
Even with that temp it should have set by now.
Just put another coat over it and you should be OK...assuming you mix it right. Might wanna try a little warmer spot too |
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| mmmm bad mix. your not alone. let her sit in a warmer area. it may harden yet |
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Location: Oregon | You must have an exact amount of part a and part b and then spend a good amount of time assuring it's mixed. Toss it and start over would be my suggestion.
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Location: Corning, Iowa | Thanks guys. I think your right, might as well start over. I should have mixed enough, and thrown some away, as having to redo it. Thanks again Doug |
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| I don't know how you mix yours, I use a 6oz plastic measuring cup and add equal amounts directly in the cup. Just use the oz indicators as a guide.
I.E when I make a batch, I usually pour the resin or hardner to the 2 oz line and then pour the other to the 4 oz line, I never ruined a batch.
Once the cup dries completly, I squeeze it and the envirotec usually cracks and is easy to pull it out. You can usually re use the cup 3 - 4 times.
I agree as well, apply in a warmer area depending on how many lures you're coating. I find applying in a colder area also extends my working time. I subsequently hang them indoors to dry and cure. |
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| Best way to make sure you have equal parts is with a gram scale. Nuts on every time |
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Location: Bemidji, MN | If you are only mixing the etex for a few lures at a time like I do, go to one of the fishing rod building suppliers, and get the syringes used for the flexcoat rod finish. (I have been told that medical syringes may have silicon on them which is no goood for epoxy). Drill a little hole in the cap of the etex, just big enough for the syringe tip to fit. this way you can draw out exactly what you need in small amounts. Plus no mess from pouring. I have never had it not set up using this method, and have mixed as little as 2cc's of each for small jobs. I also use the little mixing cups for flexcoat to mix it in, which can be used over and over if you pop the dried etex out when you are done. |
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| BALDY - 11/29/2007 6:27 PM
Best way to make sure you have equal parts is with a gram scale. Nuts on every time
Hi, I'm new here but I just have to chime in. The resin and hardener for e-tex lite have slightly different weight to them. The best way to measure for a mix is by volume(with this stuff anyways). It's not much of a difference, but it's enough to prevent a full cure. I found that out the hard way. I had a whole batch of plugs that never hardened when I weighed it out using a reloading scale, and I've been using this stuff measured by volume without any trouble for years. |
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| jklett - 12/1/2007 10:14 AM
BALDY - 11/29/2007 6:27 PM
Best way to make sure you have equal parts is with a gram scale. Nuts on every time
Hi, I'm new here but I just have to chime in. The resin and hardener for e-tex lite have slightly different weight to them. The best way to measure for a mix is by volume (with this stuff anyways ). It's not much of a difference, but it's enough to prevent a full cure. I found that out the hard way. I had a whole batch of plugs that never hardened when I weighed it out using a reloading scale, and I've been using this stuff measured by volume without any trouble for years.
I haven't experienced this in about 2 years of measuring with a scale |
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| I mix equal volumes by filling two of the same kind of empty containers...either yogurt cups for batches of ten or so, or plastic measuring cups of different sizes that I get from a craft store....I stir it slowly and make sure it's completely blended and then just pour it on and catch the run off. Then I hang them in the room where I do my mixing, and after I make sure that there are no bubbles, I turn a dehumidifier on high and let them either hang or rotate depending on the type of lure and forget about them for a day. Having a dry atmosphere seems to help with the cure time, but a mix of 1 to 1 is critical. I've seen guys use more hardener, thinking it will be stronger, but it actually won't cure. Stickiness can happen from the mix ratio or hanging the lures in a damp basement. Just my personal experience.
I'd rather mix too much and make sure that I get complete coverage than try to mix it to get exactly enough and not waste a drop. My kid loves it when I pour the extra in a yogurt or pudding cup and then drop things in it for her. She has ones with silver dollars, States quarters, chess pieces and special rocks that we picked up on a walk. |
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