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| Just released today 11-28,,Minnesota Muskie season will close Dec 15th and it "does" include this year 2007,,,
intresting??? Dec 1st was what was proposed I wonder if it will switch to the 1st after this year
the news release should be on the DNR website either tonite or tommorow mourning,,just google Minnesota dnr and in the search window type "news releases" |
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| Last I had heard (on Nov 14th) was that if it was signed by the governor prior to the 30th, it would be in effect on Dec 1st. If signed after the 30th, there was going to be a 5 day "notice period" then be effective. Not sure where the 15th came from......
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| Kind of silly to announce a rule change only two weeks prior to effective date. People who want to fish through the ice after Dec 15 probably will since it is unlikely they will see the rule change on the DNR website. They will go by the regs book published at the beginning of the season. If I were one of those people, I would fight any ticket issued since it is unreasonable for them to change the rules mid-season and expect us all to somehow become aware of it because they published it on their website, that's what the regs book is for. |
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| Page 5 In MN fishing regulations said "discontinue muskie fishing in December". Regulations changes that could be implemented.... It is in the book so it is up to the individual to check up on it also....
Edited by SHEEPHEAD 11/28/2007 2:45 PM
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| Guest thats true but dont they make adjustments all the time during the season in walleye fishing especially on Mille Lacs has far has slot size etc depending on the year and how its doing,,
This possibility of muskie season closing was touched on in the regs book this year under the "regulations that could be implemented" section |
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Location: Watertown, MN | Guest
Like sheephead and hooks states in the Rule and Regs that is was pending, and it is up to the individuals to check local rules and reg by all means, call, internet, and might be published in the paper. They change reg on Mill Lacs walleye in mid season. Try getting out of DWI because I have never seen the rules and reg for driving that states the new limit in .08.
The Dec 15 was one of the original proposal from the MMA, we still wanted to fish in Dec and by the 15th will usually still have some open water.
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Location: MPLS, MN | I'm glad it's the 15th and not the 1st. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | With the temperatures we are going to be seeing in the next few days, the whole closing date really becomes a moot point dontcha think? Granted, we may have some who will try to target 'skis through the ice, but really...how much does this happen?
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| Steve,
It's actually more than you think. Part of the reasoning behind the close was to protect the tigers here in town. My understanding is they're actually fairly succeptable to being caught at early ice. Never tried it myself, but sounds like some have done a fair amount and with some harvesting as well.
For most of us it's too late for open water, but the Brainerd folks were out all Dec and even into Jan last year on the river.
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| We get some harvesting down here on French Lake " Southern Mn" through the ice I am glad it has closed.. |
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Location: minneapolis | Doesn't really matter when it closes.... some guys will just be fishin for big pike. Happens every walleye/pike opener, guys are casting big jigs, spinners and cranks fishin for pike on well known muskie lakes three weeks before the REAL opener, so does it really matter?
Mike
Edited by mikef 11/28/2007 7:03 PM
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| Mike F
yes it matters,,they may still fish for them under the 'pike' disguise but they dont get to harvest them.
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | mikef - 11/28/2007 7:02 PM
Doesn't really matter when it closes.... some guys will just be fishin for big pike. Happens every walleye/pike opener, guys are casting big jigs, spinners and cranks fishin for pike on well known muskie lakes three weeks before the REAL opener, so does it really matter?
Mike
I agree that there will still be people to fish for them because they can get away with it. But it eliminates being able to harvest (legally) a fish, which is the goal. So in that respect, it's a good thing. But personally, I'm not sure why they don't just make the season catch and release only after December 1st. This would serve the same purpose, in my opinion. It's not like the closed season in the spring when you're protecting spawning fish. Maybe there's something more to it than just the harvest issue with the regulation change?
I really wish they would revisit this regulation. It's not something that will likely effect me personally. I've only fished out of a boat one season into December. I just think you would accomplish all of your goals and more by creating a catch and release only season come December. Not only does it achieve the previously stated goal. But you're also drawing attention to "catch and release" and the importance of it. Much like they did with smallmouth bass by creating a catch and release season starting in the middle of September. To my knowledge, that has gone over very well and has created an even greater emphasis/mentality on catch and release during the rest of the year as well.
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Location: minneapolis | I get what you're sayin'. my point is, people will still target muskies out of season no matter what the law is, even if they plan on releasing them, do you really believe people won't put a 10" sucker on a tip up on tonka, mille lacs etc. and kill a few fish "by accident"? There are a ton of views/arguments one way or another on this issue. Is it to protect the fishery? Is it to keep Wisc guys from coming over after their season closes? Is it to stop harvesting between dec and june? I don't get it..help me out.
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| mikef,
You fall on the side of the fence of the "good guys" that do get what it. I totally hear ya. Essentially, this gives the power to the wardens to be more direct in their efforts and to curb any harvesting.
Yeah, you'll still see the 10 inch suckers on 'tonka as you mentioned, but not any dry-land pics in the bait shop of a muskie from Dec-Feb.
My take...it's progress.
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Location: minneapolis | not to beat a dead horse, (too late) but how many times have you seen guys pitchin' small jigs for bass (on beds) even before the walleye/pike season under the disguise of crappie fishin'? I know this is gonna sound wierd, but, I think Pike/Muskies/Bass seasons should be the same across the board....across state lines...level playing field..this issue really burns me because I've run into guys at landings and on the ice basically targting fish out of season and laughing about "skirting" around the law..I hear ya on the progress thing
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | I've been in all the meetings with the DNR on this one. Dec 1st was the only day the DNR would take because it coincided with spearing opener.
While I'm not a fan of having to put the boat away, the overwhelming majority of people that took the MMA survey a few years ago voted for a closed season. Originally we went in going for Dec 15th as most all water in the state was iced up by then. The argument from the DNR was that if we do that it takes opportunity away from the ice fishermen. If we would accept closing our season before ice (and coinciding with the spearing opener) they would consider it as more of a conservation move.
There are many areas where harvest through the ice is not only common, but actually promoted in some circles. French is one such area where the locals want the muskies out of the lake and kill every one they can. There area other areas that I've hear of, but the venom down there is nuts. Yes, yes, yes we need to "educate", but lets face it, education takes 1. time and 2. people willing to listen. The people who promote wanton waste of the fisheries won't listen to you no matter how many times they've been "educated". In those cases other actions are needed.
At the end of the day we'll be giving up 1-3 days on the water to hopefully further protect our increasingly over-utilized resource.
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| Where exactly do I find this official announcement? I don't see it on the MN DNR website. Do I have to look at the state statutes? |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | We found out by calling the DNR office. Since it just happened it may take a couple days to get it up on their site. They'll also have to publically announce it as well so expect to see something in the paper and ODN. |
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| Thanks for the info. |
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| the official news release is up on the DNR website now,,its the 15th this year only starting next year it will always be Dec 1st
also latter this month the dnr website will have the new complete "long range muskie management plan" for view and also public comment when its in the final draft,,right now weve seen the first draft,,,Our TC chapter is going to try and plug in the DNR to talk about it when we get a open month |
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Its Official Minnesota Mukie season closes Dec 15th