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| This past weekend was a blast, the muskies moved for us. We boated 3 muskies over 40 inches and lost a 40 and another that looked to be 45 inches or so. We ended the weekend with a 40, 49 and a 44, the 49 is the second legal fish for the boat this year. keep up the CPR. Temps 47ยบ.
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| What was the hot pattern? |
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| What body of water ??? |
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| Nice fish, but the pics made my eyes blurry  |
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Location: Downers Grove, IL | ...And what spot on that body of water? Just kidding. Congrats and with the limited amount of fishable water we have down here, i'd keep that lake/spot/pattern to yourself. |
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| FishHateMe - 11/14/2007 5:12 PM
...And what spot on that body of water? Just kidding. Congrats and with the limited amount of fishable water we have down here, i'd keep that lake/spot/pattern to yourself.
We are asking questions, because maybe the pattern he came across could be applied somewhere else.
We have over 30 muskie lakes in the state and a couple rivers. I assume these fish were caught on the Fox Chain, which is like 9 lakes in itself. So, what do you mean by limited amount of fishable water?
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| Could have been some of the small private lakes like Apple Canyon or Galena Territories in the NW corner...I fish those sometimes and Ive risen a few fish of that caliber and they usually seem to turn on about this time of year...maybe... |
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| The point is not where, but how. If you are going to post pictures of fish to plug your business, at least give some info. You can't blame people for asking for a little info. in return for some free advertising. Can you?
Just trying to speak for those who wont post. I myself do not even fish the Fox Chain. |
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| The Pattern is nothing out of the norm, we waited for a good window knowing that the fish would turn on with the new moon phase, we used plastics, swim baits, and minnow baits in conjunction with live bait. as far as the 44 incher it was caught from the Fox Chain, the larger fish came from a different lake.
There are few feeding windows this time of year just stay on the good spots.
Good Luck.
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| Hello.... "The point is not where, but how."
Nice fish Ben, keep it up. |
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| Easy ... Wasn't looking for his " SPOT " , I can find a spot trust me . Was just looking for a general " where " and a pattern , seeing where and what the fish are turning on . Thanks for the info !! When I get to my " spot " I'll keep it to myself , like nobody else can find it anyway !!! Anybody going on the Fox Chain this weekend ?? If you do and see a black Tuffy ... stop by my " spot " and say hi !!! Going to try to get out sometime this weekend , anybody know if the suckers are worth it at Triangle ?? Last year they seemed to be not so good , maybe it's just me !! |
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Location: chicago | Will be out Friday,Sat,Sun, & Monday. Stopping by Triangle today. Tan/Tan sylvan. 150 yammi. |
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| LOL
I think enough is enough. No one was being rude.
This is a fishing reports section though....not a bragging board.
Like I said multiple times in this thread, nice fish and keep it up. |
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| Thanks, Ben! That 49" is a nice, clean lookin fish!
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | If you want MY Chain report here goes:
5 hours of trolling, all on Channel Lake this morning. Went around and around and around. Running from 21' deep behind 'rigger balls to 8' down behind boards. Cranks from 5" to 10". Ran from 2.5 to 5mph. Not a single rip.
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Location: chicago | 7 hours of trolling. Bluff, Marie ,Channel, Catherine. Fat carp on Catherine.30.25 on Marie. Trolled from 20 fow to 7fow. Used cranks. Last 3 have all been late afternoon. |
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Location: Illinois | I too fished the Chain dragging suckers, casting plastics, gliders, and some double-10's to no avail! We fished Channel, Catherine & Bluff and saw ZILCH. We fished in about 15 foot of water or less the whole time. Six hours of mostly cold rain! Saw about 4 other boats out and noone we talked to had any musky sightings to speak of. Good luck tomorrow. Mike |
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| Mike and I fished the Chain today, may have seen some of you guys out there. crap weather, NE winds really don't help. before we came in I caught a small muskie on a manta and mike had a horse shoe print on his sucker, looked like it was to small to eat the sucker, I would say 24 inches, that was it.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Caught this fat musky while fishing from shore at a local forest preserve lake today! Boats in storage and fish are moving near shore.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Maybe we'll see more widowmakers as next years hot lure.  Only saw 2 at pastikas this fall both in the same color. Find it funny how many lures I own yet it always seems one lure on one particular day can move and catch fish! 
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| Well looks like one less fish in THAT water.
People Please even though the weather is cold take a quick pic and let her go!
also the ground is just as bad as the bottom of your boat.
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| Heres another monster from Lake X. Congrats to my client Allan. This one ate a sucker out deep, on the bottom. She went 46.5 x 22+ girth. Musky Sucker guide Service
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | The fight on the fish was more tiring on the fish then having it out of the water for less than a minute! The fish swam away fine! I'm not going to discuss mortality because I'm not a scientist from Yale, I fish way to hard and long for musky for some peta lover to ruin my long day on the shore walking around a lake not a pond! My boats in storage so the shore is the way for me!
The person who took my pic never saw or heard of a musky, and he was actually wondering if I was going to keep it! I told him how important it was to release muskies because how small of a resource they are!  |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Nice fish muskysucker, they grow big in IL too!! |
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| some people know all It is my experience in these water temps it takes a lot to hurt a fish but what do I know
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| Nice fish guys! I'm finally making it back home for break next week and hope to stick a few Illinois beauties myself. Good to see that things are moving. Congrats again and good luck this upcoming week!
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | muskysucker1 - 11/18/2007 9:35 PM
some people know all It is my experience in these water temps it takes a lot to hurt a fish but what do I know
Makes sense to me. Colder water air temps is suppose to put "less stress" on the fish. Some guides leave the warm lakes south and head north in the summer for that reason. But what do I know muskysucker1, see you on the illinios, southern wisconsin waters next year.
Took a close up pic to show the lump behind the head of the fish on top. It was a growth or the fish was so fat is was going to explode it's head right off her body.
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| The fish is probably fine...but it still is not a good idea to lay them on the ground like that. Your lucky this isnt a smallmouth bass forum...LOL
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| Thanks for a great outing Nick (muskysucker)! That was my first 40"! Looking forward to many more outings!
As far as the water temp discussion goes -
I am also not a scientist, but I've been keeping fish for over 20 years and tend to read anything I can regarding mortality rates and how temps affect fish.
One of the major reasons why fish recover in cold water better is due to the abundance of dissovled oxygen in the water. This helps the fish recoop from fight and handling faster leaving it less vulnerable to other predators or boat traffic.
Does anyone know if parasites/fungus are affected by temperature? One common aquarium cure for the disease/parasite "Ich" is to raise the water temp in your aquarium (slowly over the course of a few days) to well over 'normal' acceptable levels. I've raised my water temps to over 90 degrees F for almost a week to cure Ich. The thought process behind this is the increased temps directly increase the life cycle of the parasite, forcing it to 'run it's course' faster than normal, helping the affected fish's immune system pass the illness through. I'm not sure if this works for all treatments, but I know it has worked for me in the instance if Ich. I wonder if colder temps also slow down parasites where they are less likely to attack a fish after being stressed... just some thoughts.
While laying a fish in the grass for some quick picks isn't ideal, I don't think it will have any serious impact on that fish. It looks very healthy and I've seen fish put through worse and survive! (I mean, tropical fish get put in bags/boxes and imported from Africa and survive week long ordeals all the time... I've gotta beleive a musky is tougher than that!)
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| If he is fishing from shore he needs to take the hooks out and that is one of the ways to do it, iam not saying it is the best way, but get the hooks out quickly and take a picture and release her !! If there is a better way let us know, personlly i like to where some type of mud boots so i can go in the water!!!! |
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| the fish/lure/rod/reel picture is a traditional way to pose a catch. look at the first issue of Musky Hunter and you'll see lots of examples of this particular "pose". it makes for a cool picture, and emphasizes the fish over the angler.
that being said, it was also most popular at a time when almost every fish was being kept...thus the immediate reaction you'll get from people who see it today - the history of that style of picture suggests/implies that the fish was kept.
obviously, limiting the out-of-water time and preventing it from hurting itself on things (such as the bottom of a boat) is best for the fish regardless of how you choose to pose it for a picture.
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| again??????
Years ago they did show the ski on the ground but we know better now. We learn.
I am just saying that their are new muskie fisherman on this board and I think we owe it to them to show the proper way.
Thats all.
I know he put his boat away for the year but what does that have to do with anything.
What if I went muskie fishing and left me muskie rods and equipment at home. should I then use my bass equipment?
No.
If you cant do it the right way don't do it.
Again turtles thank you
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Location: Illinois | Turtles? Don't think so.
Wwhat?, I happen to agree that he shouldn't be laying the fish in the grass. It's apparent that Needsa70lber wasn't aware that this is a bad thing as he posted his picture. We used to see it all the time, and now most have gotten away from it. Maybe that's how he learned or maybe he just didn't know. The point is that jumping all over guys in situations like these makes no sense at all. The guy isn't purposely trying to do anything, and he probably learned a lesson.
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| First of all, Nice fish to all of you! I fish northern Il. lakes and im having trouble sticking my fall fatty. Iv'e read multiple posts from all of you, and Im pretty sure we all know that the less we can handle a fish the better. Obviously! Give the Guy some slack anyway, it's not like he lay's all his fish on the bottom of his Tuffy for pics. The situation may have called for this approach. I really dont see how different this is than lying the fish down on you bumpboard for a Quick measurement. But anyway congrats on all the nice fish, and keep up the great reports.
Needa70lber, cograts to you, and your mom on the third place finish in the FRV outing!
Nick, congrats to you on a great season, and the great tourney results for you too.
Mabey you can help me get that Late fall fatty! Or mabey I'll just have to wait for the hard water. ooops! thats a whole different debate.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Thanks for the posts! Believe me I try my hardest not to harm these fish, they are my passion and drive! The guest post was right on, had to get the hooks out, one was near eye and had to cut, didn't think the pics would get all the debate. When a musky feels water it's thinking get the hell outta here! The shore I was fishing was very rocky, too. Illinios waters especially forest preserve lakes forbide or prohibit wadding, kinda sucks when trying to release a big musky, any big fish. Last year I actually brought a large bath towel with me to the lake, looked like an idiot. Well I caught a 34" musky and dipped the towel in the water and laid the fish on it to get the hooks out. That fish flopped off the towel and onto the grass!! The hooks got deeper, too! What a mess! She swam away fine once I got the hooks out.
Catch-22 landing literally a musky from shore. You don't want to bring her in to fast or she'll bang her head on the shore, but you don't want to free spool her for a long duration either or too much stress will incure. Most anglers today from a boat try getting the fish, any fish in as fast as possible (bass pro's). Net, cut, photo, release. Some don't bother with the photo. I have seen dvd's, videos of pros that hook a musky, reel fast as hell and their partner has the net in the water as fast as the fish was hooked. Then drag the fish in the net, and cut the hooks. Sometimes the fish still has so much energy they barrel role in the net, does harm to the fins, gills what ever. No matter how we try it we are still hunters and the musky prey. Once hooked it's our duty as an angler to try our best under any condition to release a fish properly. Sometimes that doesn't always happen.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Muskybug - 11/20/2007 6:29 PM
First of all, Nice fish to all of you! I fish northern Il. lakes and im having trouble sticking my fall fatty. Iv'e read multiple posts from all of you, and Im pretty sure we all know that the less we can handle a fish the better. Obviously! Give the Guy some slack anyway, it's not like he lay's all his fish on the bottom of his Tuffy for pics. The situation may have called for this approach. I really dont see how different this is than lying the fish down on you bumpboard for a Quick measurement. But anyway congrats on all the nice fish, and keep up the great reports.
Needa70lber, cograts to you, and your mom on the third place finish in the FRV outing!
Nick, congrats to you on a great season, and the great tourney results for you too.
Mabey you can help me get that Late fall fatty! Or mabey I'll just have to wait for the hard water. ooops! thats a whole different debate.
Lance :)
Lance seriously, I may hit the same lake this weekend pm me, sorry boat's sleeping right now. Or hell any body I'll help release your fish, just hold it while I cut. Thanks, Nick |
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| Not to stir the pot any more...but how long did it take to fight the fish, grab it, unhook it, take two pics holding it, then two more of it on the ground...then walk it back to the water?
In all seriousness...I've seen worse. Its amazing how lively these fish are this time of the year.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Reelwise - 11/20/2007 10:36 PM
Not to stir the pot any more...but how long did it take to fight the fish, grab it, unhook it, take two pics holding it, then two more of it on the ground...then walk it back to the water?
In all seriousness...I've seen worse. Its amazing how lively these fish are this time of the year.
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Thanks reelwise. You summed it up. Took me longer playing with it (fighting it) near shore by the rocks because I did not want her to hit em'. She looked done like most muskies but was green so I free spooled her three times nearshore. Played her out but not to the point of exhaustion. Grabed her by the gill plate firmly because I did not want to drop her, which never happened. She never flopped once while holding her the entire time. The rear hook was just above her right eye and cut not ripped the hook, the middle hook was in the side jaw which came out like never hooked. The photo's were very quick, less than a minute. I know photo's can be deceiving, looks like I had her out of the water for 15 min, not!
This fish actually followed my bait to shore and then went back out I lifted the lure did a quick half @#$ cast and twitched 4-5 times and she hit!! maybe 20 feet out. And yes I too have seen worse, i.e. the guide up in canada with a 55" fish swimming in his boat! |
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