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Location: Brookfield | I just got 6 new trolling rods and I would like your opinion on line. I have made up my mind that I am going to run Power Pro. What I would like to do is determine what pound test should I run to match what the lure depths are in the Trolling Secrets book. They have all the lures tested on 10 pound test mono, I was thinking of running 40# Power Pro which is the same diameter of 10# mono but I think the lure will dive deeper with PP. Would stepping up to 50# be closer? What pound test Power Pro would you run to match the book? I am not running big Musky baits with this line, mostly large Bass and Walleye size baits. I'm not at all concered about 40# breaking and I wont even consider running heavier mono, I tried it and hated it. My main cocern is knowing what depth I am running.
Thanks in advance for your opinion, Nut  |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Nut, if you're fishing Pewaukee with those baits (just assuming since you're from Brookfield) I would probably run 50# Power Pro at a minimum. I usually run 20# P line out there, but had a couple of rods with 80# power pro on them this year. The baits still get deeper faster with the 80# PP than they do on the 20# mono. I think the 80# has a 17# diameter.
I'm not sure if that helps or not. The other thing to do, is troll the sand and let out line until it hits bottom, then bring up line until it hits bottom occasionally. Then write it down. This way, if you're using different diameter line than the book is, you'll be nuts on. You can also let out line according to the book, then increase the amount or decrease depending if you're hitting bottom at the depth you're looking at. Then write it in the book under that pound test. |
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Location: W. PA. | I have the book and they don't test anything with 10 lb. mono. The only mono listed is 30 lb. I wouldn't go with anything less than 80 lb. powerpro for trolling. (80 and 100 are in the book) |
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| What jerking said
80 - 100lbs for trolling |
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| 65 to 100 |
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Location: Land of the Musky | I started with 50# and lost some lures, went to 65# and lost one lure but it cost me over $30.... I have been running 80# for both casting and trolling for the last year and have not lost anything. I have talked with guides and many even go with 100#. Next time I buy line it will be 100#. |
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| I usually run 100# PowerPro and if I want to get reaql deep real quick, I break out the wire. The 2nd edition has both 30 and 50# Big Game listed for all baits. |
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| tacklebooty - 10/21/2007 10:27 AM
I started with 50# and lost some lures, went to 65# and lost one lure but it cost me over $30.... I have been running 80# for both casting and trolling for the last year and have not lost anything. I have talked with guides and many even go with 100#. Next time I buy line it will be 100#.
If you're breaking off with 65#, even 50#, you should probably look at the rest of your system (rod, drag, etc).
50# line should be more than sufficient for trolling with the proper setup. |
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| come on baldy...you think 50 pound power pro is "more than sufficient" for trolling? really? have you trolled much? you have bounced rock bottoms at 4 to 6 mph? i can snap 50 pound power pro with my hands, no problem. you can snap 65 pound if you put a rag around your hands.
sounds like Esoxnut is using such small baits that "MUSKY Leaders and Snaps" are probably not allowing his bass/walleyes baits to work properly...and he doesnt like how high in the water column his baits run with 30 pound mono..so he wants really light equipment so his hot and tots runs right...
Esoxnuts, dont let what line diameter a book used determine what line you are trolling with. Evently, when you get some musky baits.. you'll be VERY upset if you are using 40, 50 or 65 pound test power pro. it's just not a good idea to use such light line with musky fishing. there's nothing "light" about this game..
go with 80 pound if you want to go on the light side..and 100 to be on the safe side. |
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| tom thats normal if you use a 5 inch leader...... try a 24 inch leader+65 pound braid ,and you will never loose a baits,plow included |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I agree with ron f and Baldy.
Casting and trolling ( Which I don't do much because power trolling is against the law here) I use 50# and 65#. Never have had any problems.
I'd like to see someone break my 50# superline in their hands...would result in a nasty cut and no broken line, IMHO. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Well, I broke the 65# while casting a big Bulldawg last year in 0F weather and my reel froze up. I think if I had 80# or 100# it woudl have stopped the lure vs breaking my line. The breaks on the 50# happened while trolling when my lure(s) got caught...and yes, teh drag was too tight... Early lesson a few years ago while trolling. LOL |
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| thanks Ron...that's NEAT. 5 inch leaders. neat. i troll with 48" and 60" leaders. come one dude..it's not my first time around the block here...i do a little trolling man. i just got back from one of the great lakes...we had to trolling solid 60" and 7 strand 60" leaders as the rocks were just TOO sharp for the flouro....we did run floro on the up rod though. but had to run solid on the deeper rods.
of course some people are gonna challenge anything i say...
but tacklebooty, a musky fisherman should NOT have to worry about breaking thier line when trolling no matter if they have thier drag cranked down or not.
Long lining...a 125 feet of line out, then another 55 feet out on the planer board. 180 feet line of out...you better have your drag cranked down, or a most your fish will shake off real quick. it's OK to have those drag tight tacklebooty...you just learned the hard way, fishing with what bass fisherman use in heavy cover. (i just returned from a trip to florida, and we fished alot of trees, and our guide has us using 50 pound power pro bass fishing in the heavy tree cover). you are right, you probably would not be missing a big bulldawg if you were using 80 or 100 pound...it could still possibly break it, but your chances of breaking it are much lower, on a backlast or trolling with the drag tightened.
and..just cause i know someone is gonna call me out on it, i just went into my fishing room, snapped 65 pound power pro in my hand with a kitchen towel wrapped around my hands. Then, i took the 50 pound power pro, wrapped it around my bare hand about 20 times, held the spool w/ the other hand and snapped it. did it cut me? barely...i would call it an abrasion..or a slight cut..but no blood.
bottom line, a guy asked WHAT POUND TEST POWER PRO SHOULD HE USE FOR TROLLING. one guy getting broke off with 50 and 65 pound test...i suggest to run 80 or 100 pound.
OF COURSE you can troll for years with 10 test mono and be ok..just butter the drags, use easy pulling baits...Heck, some of biggest muskies EVER caught were on rapalas and 8, 10 or 12 pound test. sure, you can do it..but this guy said he bought 6 combos to get ready to troll, and i assume for muskies.
Esoxnut, i have hung out with guys who make a living trolling for muskies, it's their full time job. i have never seen any one true trolling expert using 50 pound power pro.. (or 65 for that matter either). i have seen some guys running 65 pound test in another brad..but that's not powerpro.
Esoxnut..if you got 6 rods to get ready to troll...put 100 pound on 2 of them, 80 on 3 of them, and 65 pound one, if that's what you want to try.
Edited by tomcat 10/22/2007 8:31 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | True enough, I don't use Power Pro. I can't use my bare hands and break the 50# of the brand I DO use, and wouldn't use a brand I could.
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| Tomcat has been hittin the weights!!!! You tryin to catch up to their TCAT!
I better need tickets for the Gunshow this winter at the shows....
I'd agree you can get by with 50 but my trolling rods all have 80....
Sucker rods are now all with 100... go big or go home ! |
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What pound test Power Pro for trolling?