Tuffy X-190
testpilot
Posted 9/17/2007 8:34 AM (#275269)
Subject: Tuffy X-190


Here are a few pics which I promised. This boat will be at the Tuffy Boats outing this weekend on Namakagon Lake, WI.



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BALDY
Posted 9/17/2007 9:13 AM (#275272 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190




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Details?
Muskie Treats
Posted 9/17/2007 9:25 AM (#275274 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
When are you going to have one in this area?
sworrall
Posted 9/17/2007 9:29 AM (#275275 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
According to the folks at Tuffy:
The Tuffy X-190 is the first of a new series of boats from Tuffy, the "X" Performance-V Series. Lower profile multi-species boats designed specifically for the angler demanding greater performance, higher value, and increased versatility from their rig. From muskie to walleye to bass, no boat in its class will X(cross)-perform as well as the Tuffy X Series.

When compared with the Tuffy Deep V series, these boats run faster with less horsepower, allow access to "skinnier" water, and trailer and launch "lighter" due to their low profile design and single axle trailer. Yet, they still deliver the same wave crushing, soft, and quiet ride Tuffy is known for. This is due to the X-190's Performance V-Hull design combined with Tuffy's standard-setting hull laminate schedule and deck-to-liner one-piece fusion process, which literally creates a true, single-piece boat.

The X190 is available in single console, dual console, and tiller models with either an Osprey or Esox interior with a removable rear storage deck.

The X-190 will be unveiled at the Tuffy Boats Get-Together, September 21-23, Namakagon Lake, WI

The X-190 Preliminary Specs
Length: 19'0"
Beam: 90"
Transom: 25"
Inside depth: 21"
Max HP Console: 200
Max HP Tiller: 90
Livewell: Single 52" or Dual 26"
Rod Locker: 14 rods 8' - 9'


Muskie Treats
Posted 9/17/2007 9:58 AM (#275277 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
What's the length on the trailer (ie will it fit in my garage). Also can you put a kicker on it?
testpilot
Posted 9/17/2007 10:13 AM (#275280 - in reply to #275277)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190


Approx 21' 5" motor down swing-away tongue swung away
sworrall
Posted 9/17/2007 10:14 AM (#275281 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
It's all set for a kicker, no need for an additional bracket, either.
guest
Posted 9/17/2007 10:44 AM (#275289 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


Hi Steve
Will there be other size boats in this series this year and do you have a rough idea of MSRPs for the boats?
sworrall
Posted 9/17/2007 10:56 AM (#275292 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Yes, an additional rig is under consideration at this time according to Tuffy Boats' Marketing department. They tell me a full polyflake retail boat, motor, trailer package, stainless prop, fiberglass fenders, 150 Suzi or Merc, water ready should be about 31K plus extras and tax, 33K with a 200.
Whoolligan
Posted 9/17/2007 11:06 AM (#275296 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190




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So, uh, I'm thinkin' that the line forms to the rear. That is really a sweet looking rig. If, in fact, it rides like the osprey, or better yet, my old Rampage (which I wish I still had), I'll be among the first to step up to the plate.
Guest
Posted 9/17/2007 12:20 PM (#275305 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


Steve.........Will Tuffy pull this into there G-Series.........What will that do to the pricing.......?
testpilot
Posted 9/17/2007 2:13 PM (#275320 - in reply to #275305)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


We will if the demand is there in the future, but currently we are focused on the T, C, and DS models.
mskyhntr
Posted 9/17/2007 6:17 PM (#275369 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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I must say that's one MEAN looking boat! Looks like she'll fly! How would this boat do on Mille Lacs, Green Bay, etc. Compared to the 1890 gt. I notice the v is much shallower than the 1890 how much will this affect rough water performance or none at all?
needa70lber
Posted 9/17/2007 8:36 PM (#275388 - in reply to #275369)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
When is the online video coming out?
needa70lber
Posted 9/17/2007 8:39 PM (#275389 - in reply to #275388)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




Posts: 156


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
2-4 footers in the video add some snow in the mix too!
testpilot
Posted 9/17/2007 8:58 PM (#275390 - in reply to #275389)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


My buddy Dale was nice enough to drive the boat a little bit tonight so I could shoot some video of it running. Sorry, no 2 to 4 footers tonight but you should get an idea of how it runs and handles anyway. Still breaking the engine in. Will post a short clip soon.
needa70lber
Posted 9/17/2007 9:10 PM (#275393 - in reply to #275390)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
awesome!!!!
Schuler
Posted 9/17/2007 9:41 PM (#275399 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: Davenport, IA
I like the setup of that boat from what I can see. Pretty too.
testpilot
Posted 9/17/2007 9:43 PM (#275400 - in reply to #275393)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


WalleyeFIRST posted the clip on the Tuffy Boats Board - I apologize in advance for the jittery camera.

http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1...
needa70lber
Posted 9/17/2007 10:08 PM (#275410 - in reply to #275400)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Nice ride!! Can I have one please?
Curly
Posted 9/18/2007 12:14 PM (#275482 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


2 Questions...

1. Nice video...what was speed with the 175?


2. Some of us live not too far away from Namekogen... If a person wasn't directly involved in the Tuffy Shin-dig could that person still get a sneak preview of that boat if he were to drive up?

If so...call me at 715-579-7463, that looks worth taking the time to drive up and check it out.

Mark
Dan Urbas
Posted 9/18/2007 12:23 PM (#275485 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Location: Minnesota
Is Tuffy gonna keep the "deep V" design as on the Esox 1760 model??

Is the new X-190 availible in the "Deep V"??

testpilot
Posted 9/18/2007 12:40 PM (#275486 - in reply to #275485)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


Dan,

If you are referring to the "Esox" or "Esox Deep V" interior, yes, there is a rear storage deck that installs with four bolts which converts the Osprey to an Esox interior.

If you are referring to the hull itself, the X-190 in an entirely new series of boats, the X Performance V Series.

The Deep V series and the Low Profile Series remain unchanged.
Dan Urbas
Posted 9/18/2007 12:43 PM (#275487 - in reply to #275486)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




Posts: 66


Location: Minnesota
Yes, I meant the hull design. I like the deep v hull better than low profile hulls.
lambeau
Posted 9/18/2007 12:51 PM (#275489 - in reply to #275487)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190


rather than being an "either/or" prospect between Deep-V or Performance-V hulls, think of it as "both/and".

what i mean is, the new X line of Tuffy boats adds yet another option for people to consider when trying to match the best boat to theirs needs based on waters fished and fishing style.

if you're looking for something that gets you a bit closer to the water, has a shallower draft, and will move very fast, this new X Performance V line of boats should be just the ticket for those needs.
if you're looking for a boat that offers a smoother ride in rough conditions, is moderately fast, and has tons of interior space, the Deep-V line is worth looking into.
if what you want is a wide-open casting deck layout, super shallow capability, and has extremely good water access, the Low-Profile hulls are right up your alley.

another step forward by Tuffy.
more options = good!
testpilot
Posted 9/18/2007 12:56 PM (#275492 - in reply to #275482)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


Yes, anyone can feel free to stop by the get together to test drive the X-190 or the other boats available.

Top speed has not been determined, the motor is still in the break-in period. Short bursts up to WOT we have seen up to 61 full livewell, trolling motor batteries, full gas and 2 guys on the handheld GPS.

Conservatively speaking, we expect to see around 63 fully loaded with the 175 after break-in and engine height adjustment and propping tweaks are done. With a 200, even better, since it should be able to easily turn a 24P without sacrificing holeshot.

The boat as it sits now turns a 23P tempest at 5700 RPM's.
Curly...
Posted 9/18/2007 3:16 PM (#275529 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


NICE....

I like to run my motors in the 3-4,200 range and that should put the new X in mid 30's to low 40's.. I.e. 3500 RPM = close to 35 mph. With room to run from a storm if needed.

I may have to run up there Sat.

Curious on rod locker length. I see it's got the same design as current lineup. Awesome rod lockers. How long of a rod will fit in the new X series?

Thanks...
MuskieFIRST
Posted 9/18/2007 3:20 PM (#275530 - in reply to #275529)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190





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8.5 footers fit comfortably in all three rows.
Whoolligan
Posted 9/18/2007 5:01 PM (#275544 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190




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One word. Drooooo-ooo-ool.
Guest
Posted 9/18/2007 7:09 PM (#275563 - in reply to #275530)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


How does this differ from a bass boat design, with the exception of the rear deck design? Seems similar to the new Warrior bass boat's hull. Is this a deeper v?

This is a sincere question -- it's a great looking boat and this is not a criticism!
testpilot
Posted 9/18/2007 8:07 PM (#275585 - in reply to #275563)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


Yes, it is a deeper v than a bass boat but it does have some handling characteristics of that type of hull, but carries a 25" transom, and has a more versatile interior.

To one person it's a big water bass boat, to another it's a go-anywhere muskie boat, or a river walleye boat that can still take you out onto Green Bay if need be.

From hull style to the interior it was designed to be versatile as possible, to perform exceptionally well with lower horsepower than the deep v's, and tow well on a single axle trailer in a very affordable package.
Tuffy Boats
Posted 9/18/2007 9:07 PM (#275603 - in reply to #275585)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


The X190 has a deeper V than most bass designs, not as much as some Walleye designs. As test pilot said, this is a hybrid that will be comfortable on the backwaters of the Mississippi, Mille Lacs, Bay of Green Bay and everything in between.
seabass
Posted 9/18/2007 9:41 PM (#275606 - in reply to #275603)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Will there be anywhere for folks in the Chicago area to see one of these?
Dan Urbas
Posted 9/19/2007 8:39 AM (#275648 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




Posts: 66


Location: Minnesota
Looks bass boat to me. A Mille chop will tear that up.

Tuffy should stay will deepr boats.
Tuffy Boats
Posted 9/19/2007 8:48 AM (#275649 - in reply to #275648)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


Tuffy IS staying with deep V models. They added the 1890 models, added the full Deep V G series, and now have added the X series designed for the angler who is looking for a lower profile hybrid capable of handling conditions most Muskie, Walleye, and Bass anglers encounter.
Dan Urbas
Posted 9/19/2007 8:52 AM (#275650 - in reply to #275649)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Location: Minnesota
Good deal!!
Thx
karol
Posted 9/19/2007 2:19 PM (#275703 - in reply to #275650)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190




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Location: nappanee IN
where is the closest dealer in indiana? no fair that you cheeseheads get all the best boats all we have here are "tin" boats
Guest
Posted 9/19/2007 3:16 PM (#275706 - in reply to #275649)
Subject: RE: Tuffy X-190


I think it's a great addition to our options. The 618 is a pretty good muskie boat, and this looks like it COULD be even better (as far as that category of boat is concerned).
sworrall
Posted 9/19/2007 3:59 PM (#275714 - in reply to #275269)
Subject: Re: Tuffy X-190





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Buckeye Sports and Marine in Hebron, Ohio, or Heartland Marine in El Paso, IL