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| Hmmm... Just a few days into June, and here's what I've encountered over the last few days:
Fox Chain (IL) 77 degrees
Webster (IN) 76 degrees
Waubesa (WI) 72 degrees
What are you seeing where you are at? Do you think the quick warmup is affecting the fish? If we're seeing these sorts of temps this early, what's going to happen in July and August? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | just when you get the summer started it's time to quit fishing eh? ... maybe we should start a poll for when the first post will arrive telling folks when they can and can't fish ... the depth of the warm water .... the elietist view of water temp. and what to do and not to do .... yada, yada, yada
it's the musky season with all the same things for us to argue about again! |
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| I personally think you should quit fishing when the water gets so hot that the fish just goes *PUH!* and explodes when you set the hook. But that's just me. |
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| What everyone should keep in mind is that surface temps are generally warmer than they are a few feet down. Divers will tell you about the massive temperature shifts from surface down to the bottom. Here in eastern Ontario we're taking temperature readings at 0 meters and 3.3 meters (about 9') and there's usually a two degree difference (today was 21.7 degrees Celcius at the surface and 9' down it was 19). Obviously this is probably nothing new, just something to remember.
That said if you do fish in warm temperatures make sure to cut down on the duration of sub-lethal stress factors a fish is subject to. Short battles if you can, leave them in the water as long as possible, limited air exposure, etc.
I'd be curious what some of the temps are in various Illinois lakes, though.
Edited by esox50 6/4/2007 3:19 PM
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| Bald Eagle was 70.4 degreeson Sunday night
This was the temp after a 1" rain and hail Sat Night, and on and off rain while we were fishing |
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Location: oswego, il | I seen 81.5 degrees in the late afternoon out in indiana last saturday. The day started at 77. Time to head north. |
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Location: WI | 66* on a clear northern WI lake this afternoon. 68-70 at a different lake last weekend with not as clear water. |
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| 75 degree high on a clear Iowa lake last night, past weekend had South MN temps in the 70 degree range |
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Location: somewhere! | Waubesa was 78 last night... Not lookin good... They say that is just going to keep on getting hotter as the week goes on, Saturday and Sunday being both 90... |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Last weekend I was BLESSED to fish 3 Great waters on my back to work in Montana.
Friday, Lake Vermilion:: surface temps were, 62-64*
Saturday, Leech Lake:: Northend 68* South 63*
Sunday, Cass Lake:: North end 67* South 62*
Leech & Cass were way more clear water than Big V and there was alot more traffic on Cass & Leech.
Didn't boat anything worth reporting, was mainly on a scouting mission. The cabbage is going good on Cass & Leech but just starting on Vermilion.
Later, Jerome |
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Location: Otsego, MN | Was on Independence this morning in the metro here and was getting readings around the lake at 74, then it was near 90 today so it's heating up here in the metro. |
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| 63 - 65 on the Moen Chain last weekend |
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| Waconia 77 |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | esoxaddict - 6/13/2007 12:26 PM
63 - 65 on the Moen Chain last weekend
What a difference a few days make. 77-80 on Moen's now. |
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Location: mad chain | madchain 6-14-07, wauby 79 - 82. |
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Location: Otsego, MN | Independence last night 77-80. |
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| Fox Chain 84 degrees (surface).
Ben
www.muskyfix.com |
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| 82-84 on Waubesa last night. |
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| 82-84 is probably too warm to fish. Although the cooler water under a warmer surface layer sounds good, it is at times mythical. More likely to occur in northern climates, and unfortunately extended warm weather up there will knock out the cool water also. It is important to actually know the thermal characteristics of the water you are fishing before you start fishing in warm water.
http://www.lrl.usace.army.mil/wc/wq/crrtext.html
this is the Cave Run chart for 02 and temps
Down here it is always interesting to follow Cave Run as it progresses through the season. Currently you can see there is a cool water refuge with plenty of oxygen remaining starting around 18 ft or so. That is also where one would probably start fishing if attempting to contact fish, and in mornings or cool windy weaher they might be higher in the column. By the middle of July, on this same chart you will see the oxygen totally depleted under 25-30 feet, and a fairly uniform mix of water temps running above 76 degrees from the thermocline to the surface and way too warm to fish, imo. As the summer progresses you will see water temps up in the 80s way down nearly to the thermocline. Tough situation. Unfortunately we have some fisherman, and so called "guides", that continue to fish in this situation, an unethical decision imo, but legal in all respects.
It is easy to check the thermal stratification of the water with a thermometer or even a pair of swimming trunks. At times during our long hot summers, the trout lake near me gets a deep warm water cap on it, so deep I can't reach the start of the thermocline even by swimming down to it.
There has been some discussion on whether muskies tolerate catch and release in this warm water or not, and as to how well they tolerate it.
IMO, Just because they might live through the experience, most of us who have fished in warm water at some time have had a fish unexplainedly poop out when it should have been swimming away.
Though you might pluck them from a cool water refuge, will they find their way back to that zone in time to recover?
The third thing that bothers me is what is the fungal susceptibility of a fish handled in warm water? I think it is high.
These things leave me reluctant to start fishing at all until fall or some massive cool water event. Obviously the same set of circumstances don't bother other fisherman. |
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| 75 - 77 northern Vilas over the weekend...
Going to take my Marcum just to see how far down it's that warm this weekend... |
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Location: Pound, WI | fsf, so you're telling all of us in Northern WI that we should shut it down after the first 3 weeks? Hardly seems worth buying all this stuff for 3 weeks of fishing in the spring.
Brian |
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| ostdc - 6/17/2007 9:20 PM
fsf, so you're telling all of us in Northern WI that we should shut it down after the first 3 weeks? Hardly seems worth buying all this stuff for 3 weeks of fishing in the spring.
Brian
Nope, not saying that at all and suggest a closer reading of my comments would be in order. |
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