Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking
buddysolberg
Posted 5/29/2007 8:35 PM (#258567)
Subject: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




Posts: 157


Location: Wausau/Phillips WI
Tried a new rumbler for the opener. Couldn't get the tail to spin unless I raised the rod tip up to lift all the line off the water and get the rumblers nose up. What can I do to correct this. Bend blade in or out or something else? Tried a fluorocarbon leader and also no leader and found no change.

The LifeLike Lizard that looked sooo good at the Milwaukee show comes does not come in in that tantalizing snake like motion. It comes straight in and wants to turn over and come in upside down. No wiggle at all.

Help on both would be appreciated before I put them on the wall in the basement, never to see water again. I believe there's a way to get these to work, but what key unlocks the secret?

Buddy
sworrall
Posted 5/29/2007 8:37 PM (#258568 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I tuned up my Rumbler and made her pop like mad, bend the tail into a less/more cup until it pops. Also, let the bait float a second before starting her up. Rod position did need to be slightly up.
muskyboy
Posted 5/30/2007 12:50 AM (#258597 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking


My Rumbler works great, so just keep bending the blade until you get the magical sounding pop
dockboylures
Posted 5/30/2007 12:52 AM (#258598 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 97


Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan
my rumbler didnt even spin until i messed with it a little. I just kept loosening the tail part (moving back and fourth) until it spun.
Big Perc
Posted 5/30/2007 7:07 AM (#258608 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




Posts: 1185


Location: Iowa
I bought one from Scheels are it worked straight out of the package...

Big Perc
muskie_man
Posted 5/30/2007 8:17 AM (#258616 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 1237


Location: South Portsmouth, KY
Hows the rumblers pop compare to say a topraiders plop? Any real difference?
cjrich
Posted 5/30/2007 8:28 AM (#258621 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
I've been throwing my Rumblers for a few months now. Was able to get some during the show season. While any surface bait will pick up floating weeds when they are present ... it appears that the Rumbler is a weed-magnet when it comes to floaters. On my models, the bait will lose all action when ANY weeds are picked up on any part of the bait.

However, when she's running hot, straight, and normal .... she's looks to be a real killer! The water down here on Cave Run is about boiling these days (82 degrees already). There has not been any top water bite to speak of yet here. Gotta be one any day now.

The body of the bait appears to run slightly below the surface. Seems to me that the Topraider rides higher in the water.

As far as the Life Like Lures, I purchased every one of them in their line. Some disappointments though. The tailhook on the larger 12" and 9" version of the Pike keeps coming unhooked (it's made to simply bury a barb on the back treble into the tail). There was a post a few months ago where someone posted some great pics of a modification whereby that rear hook on the Pikes was supported through an eyelet that was extended from the split ring on the front treble. The action on the Pike is very good, but that rear treble keeps coming out and the weeds that are picked up then foul the action completely. Appears to me to be a real design flaw. After the post showing the modification Dan Vogel at Dunwright posted here to thank the person for the illustrations of his modifications and said he would look into changing the rear treble hook scenario.

DITTO on the action of my Lizards. If you pull or twitch too hard to improve the action the bait simply rolls over and dies (along with any action). The Crappie and Bluegill models do run well with a great tail shimmy. Still waiting to land a fish on them.

I am as guilty as anyone else when it comes to off-season hoopla and hype about new baits. Sometimes it's best to wait until a new line of baits is out and some feedback comes back in about their use/effectiveness.

ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT MAGIC BAIT.

Craig
dhacker
Posted 5/30/2007 10:26 AM (#258650 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




Posts: 216


Location: Elk River, MN
I purchased two Rumblers - one worked great and the other one worked terrible with the tailprop barely spinning. I bent the blade and got it to work better but still not close to the first one. Still have to do some more "tuning". IMO, the Rumber sounds more like a Lee Lure than a TopRaider - but still doesn't pop as loud or throw the water as much as the Lee Lure.

I didn't purchase the DunWright Lizard but did the large and small shallow / suspending LifeLike Pike. They both had nice action but was so surprised how heavy the larger one felt to throw.

Edited by dhacker 5/30/2007 10:27 AM
jonnysled
Posted 5/30/2007 11:05 AM (#258662 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
i too got a rumbler and it got wet last night for the first time. it doesn't roll and puts out a nice sound at the speed i like to fish with props ... a fish took a swipe on the maiden voyage ... so far i like what i see in limited time and it's expected to spend the summer at my feet and be a go to bait ... at first i looked between the body parts and thought there might have to be some adjustments made which i'm sure i'll have to do but overall i like what i see and really the price is in line at around 20 bucks ...

one thumb up ... maybe more as time will tell
Bytor
Posted 5/30/2007 11:22 AM (#258670 - in reply to #258662)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Location: The Yahara Chain
Sled where can you get a Rumbler for $20? My local shop just got them in and they are going for $29.
Jason Bomber
Posted 5/30/2007 11:31 AM (#258673 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





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Hey Bytor.........Theyr'e only 23 at the 2 Dorns you probably didn't go to. Sherman, or Cottage grove.
BALDY
Posted 5/30/2007 11:41 AM (#258675 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




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Musky Tackle Online has them for $22.99
jonnysled
Posted 5/30/2007 11:42 AM (#258676 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





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Location: minocqua, wi.
i think they are like 22 bucks at rollie and helen's and are in-stock
muskymike68
Posted 5/30/2007 11:56 AM (#258681 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




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Checkout crazycrank.net. There's a video clip of Doug Johnson working the bait and the correct sound the bait should make. Based on the video, I have alot of tuning to do to get mine to sound like that.
Reef Hawg
Posted 5/30/2007 1:21 PM (#258689 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: RE: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
Why would there be so much tuning neccessary with them? Aren't they a plastic(or poly) lure, which equates to body consistancy? Aren't all the tails pre-bent in the same fashion from the manufacturer? I'd think they should all work out of the box. Might wait a bit before purchasing, till I see another in action, not that I cannot tune a lure, but that I would expect it to work right off.
BALDY
Posted 5/30/2007 1:25 PM (#258690 - in reply to #258689)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




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I got a couple from Musky Tackle Online, and the one I have thrown sounds great right out of the box
Chris H
Posted 5/30/2007 3:09 PM (#258712 - in reply to #258690)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




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I had put my name on a list with Rollie & Helen's a few months ago. They called me on Monday last week and they were at my house Thursday night. Have not tested them out yet.......

Good service from R&H!
Chris

crackpot
Posted 5/30/2007 3:16 PM (#258716 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: RE: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 214


Location: Central Iowa
Jackson Lures has them on their website for $20.
Dan Vogel
Posted 5/31/2007 12:10 PM (#258834 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: RE: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking


Hey guys. The lizard not snaking? First try a floro leader, and use a light rod, your buck tail rod is best. These things only wiegh an ounce and a half. There has to be some give in the rod tip to allow them to move.

Aslo, I find that a lot of guys fish baits faster than I do. We will be producing the Lizard and the 8 inch pike with a removable 1/4 ounce wieght. This option starts shipping on the baits next week. This allows you to move the bait faster and or deeper as well as twitch it supper shallow with the weight off. Call me at 763 263 5793 and I will send you a couple of the prototype weights to play with.

thanks,

Dan Vogel

Dunwright Tackle
buddysolberg
Posted 5/31/2007 8:48 PM (#258892 - in reply to #258834)
Subject: RE: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




Posts: 157


Location: Wausau/Phillips WI
Thanks Dan,

I know that the lizard works cause I saw it in the Hawg Trough and everyone was impressed with its action. Just needed some advice on how to fine tune it. I think it will be a fun lure to use.

Buddy
esox50
Posted 6/1/2007 8:43 AM (#258932 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





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Just took my Rumbler down to the lake to tune it up. I thought it had a unique sound to begin with; sort of mixture of a whoosh-like globe and traditional plop of prop baits. Needless to say, I was hoping it might be a tad louder.

If you want LOUD, bend that tail in towards the head. Holy smokes.

As far as the weeds fouling up the action, that happens on every prop style bait, bar none. If some get caught on it give it a hard rip and you won't waste a cast having to bring the bait in to take the weeds off by hand. Pretty simple solution...
cjrich
Posted 6/1/2007 8:50 AM (#258934 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
The type of weeds in the water that you are fishing has EVERYTHING to do with whether they will come right off with a good tug. Up north that may be the case ... but down here in the south, it's a different story.

Additionally, once weeds are wrapped around the shaft that separates the front and back (body) of the bait, one can rip till the cows come home and the Rumbler will still have been silenced. These have been my experiences.

Great bait when there are no floaters present (though).

Craig
Valleye
Posted 6/1/2007 3:27 PM (#259004 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




Posts: 19


Location: Lake County, IL
Most Excellent! Thanks for the info fellas. Just ordered me two Rumblahs from "Action Jacksonlures" Hopefully they will get to me by next weekend! Can't wait to try em out. Just saw D. Johnson trying them out. The popping noise is so pronounced I can imagine what the Ski's are thinking!

Dunwright lizards and pikes look interesting as well. However one purchase at a time!

V3
dom
Posted 7/26/2007 3:07 AM (#267178 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: RE: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking


hate the rumble!when i PAY i dont want to act like a lures maker.i want them ok right out of the box
firstsixfeet
Posted 7/26/2007 8:35 AM (#267204 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: Re: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking




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I have talked to two fisherman that really liked these and they had used them a lot. Good endorsement.

But when I see these kinds of comments I get real cold feet. My last plunge on a hype bait was for a pacemaker, and I was kind of taken aback that anybody would design and sell such a bait. Rollie and Helens was good enough to take it back.

Why should a fisherman have to try and tune a bait to get it to work out of the box? I can understand re-tuning after an event, but, straight out of the box?
dom
Posted 7/26/2007 9:14 AM (#267221 - in reply to #258567)
Subject: RE: Rumblers not rumbling and the Lizards not snaking


very strange miss olson finally reply me today in the morning,she will replace the defect rumbler.i think she take care of us