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| Just a show of hands, would people be in favor of some sort of training process enabling citizens to help CPO's enforce regulations, specifically out-of-season fishing? Not a paying position, strictly volunteer work but involving some sort of process that trains people how to enforce regulations. Possibly choose a species to protect (for instance, protect Ontario's closed bass season or Wisconsin and Minnesota's closed muskie seasons).
What would the logistics be to coordinate something like this? Would this strip or somehow diminish CPO's of their power as law enforcers?
It just burns me up to see people here in eastern Ontario blatantly targeting spawning bass around our study sites on Lake Opinicon.
It's been a while since I've pitched tubes at shallow (less than 3') rock points for northern pike... |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | I'd be a volunteer game warden in a second, in my state. in cogneito (SP), i'd bust alot of folks in this area, for nothing other than the sake of the resource they are abusing. sign me up! Lori and I met a very nice game warden at the launch yesterday after we put the boat back on the trailer. Not saying that some of them are not nice, but they are all just doing their jobs. any way, This guy never asked me for anything, untill I asked him if he needed to see this, that, the other thing. He told us about what he had heard about this place and that, etc. He thanked us for being so accomidating, and Lori thanked him for doing his job. The smile on that young man's face could not been any bigger than if he caught a fitty! took him about 3 steps to travel 20 yards. lol |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Bad idea. Law enforcement is for the professionals IMHO, for obvious reasons. best effort is to take the boat registration number and call the guy in. |
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Location: Maple Grove | WI and MN have tip lines to report violators. Like Steve said...call them in with boat registration info. |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | That number is programed into my cell already. |
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| do you suppose anything ever gets done to those who have their numbers called in? Im not trying to be some sort of hole here, however if they actually do follow up, there are a few boats I would call in. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Absolutely. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i called on some guys targeting muskies a few years back ... my kids actually noticed them. we made the call without making a stink on the water and watched the dnr launch the boat and do their thing. it was a fun afternoon ... of course it all depends on location and ability for the dnr officials to make it to the scene, but if they can ... they do. of course there's no way to be 100% effective and i also agree that the law needs to be enforced by the law enforcement officials who are trained to handle the potential situations that could come about ... i could just imagine a citizen vigillante coming onto an unpredictable confrontation that went the wrong way ... that would be an interesting lawsuit in today's times.
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| Our DNR guys here in Michigan are pretty good, too, though state budget woes have hurt them.
We had a long-time local here in Van Buren County Michigan, his name was Paul Rebori. His nickname was "Rambo" and was he ever dedicated and tough. All kinds of stories about the extremes he would go to to catch violaters. For example, he would hide in those tubes that allow creeks to run under roads, crouched down for hours waiting for folks who target spawning steelhead/trout. He would also hide in heavy bushes hanging over the banks of streams, wearing waders and standing silent and still in the cold water. My favorite tactic of his was nailing out-of-state folks fishing from the ends of piers. If the folks saw him coming, obvious in his Sheriff's boat, they would slide back into the house, but too late. He would beach his boat and go to the door, "May I see your fishing license, please?" |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Ranger - 5/28/2007 4:39 PM
We had a long-time local here in Van Buren County Michigan, his name was Paul Rebori. His nickname was "Rambo" and was he ever dedicated and tough.
This must be the same guy that worked in Burnett County, WI for awhile back about 15 years ago or so. I don't remembr his real name, but people called him Rambo. His tactics sound very familiar!
Our encounters with him were pretty tame. But he once checked us for our fishing license 3 times in one day on 2 different lakes.
He accused my dad of hauling in sand on our beach, which we can't do because that's considered to be the lake bottom. Ummm, look around buddy, the entire shoreline is sand!
He also made my dad remove the bottom two steps going down to our beach because they were "on the lake bottom", even though it was 50 feet from the edge of the water.
And the other encounter I remember...my brother went down to the lake and filled a 5 gallon bucket full of water. He hauled it up behind our cabin to wipe down his boat or truck, can't remember which one. Anyway, next thing you know, Rambo is beaching his boat and coming up the steps. He wants to know what my brother has in that bucket!!!
Oh, the good ol' days of Rambo. One of my favorite stories of him that I remember is him parking his truck (I believe it was his truck) on a snowmobile trail in the middle of the night. With his lights off, he would wait for people on their sleds to come over this hill where he was parked. And as soon as they come over the hill, on go his lights, shining right in their face! A little dangerous maybe???
I wonder if this guy is still alive. I know he was receiving death threats on a somewhat regular basis.
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Location: oswego, il | Call the tip lines, I do. I turned a guy in last year in wisconsin for unatteneded lines but not before releasing his bait. I have e-mailed the indiana DNR with particulars on unnateneded lines as well. |
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | Here ya go. Phone numbers and links. Being a good witness and reporting offenses is about as proactive or interactive as law enforcement agencies encourage anyone to be. with the exception perhaps of educating one another. Remember that these are usually not life threatening incidents. Even if they were life threatening, dont place yourself in harms way. More often than not, "heroic" attempts end in tradgedy. Call the professionals whenever possible.
Illinois (877) 2DNRLAW
http://www.dnr.state.il.us/law3/poach.htm
Indiana (800) TIP-IDNR
http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/fish/fishng/2007RFG/large/Fishing%20...
Iowa (800) 532-2020
http://tipofiowa.org/
Kentucky (800)25ALERT
http://www.kdfwr.state.ky.us/Navigation.asp?cid=439
Ohio (800)POACHER
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/Contact/TIPform.htm
Michigan (800) 292-7800
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/1,1607,7-153-10366_15383-34086--,00.htm...
Minnesota (800)652-9093
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/enforcement/tip.html
Missouri (800)392-1111
http://www.mdc.mo.gov/hunt/gamethief/
Pennsylvania No Tip "Hot line" listed call regional office numbers listed on the
link. http://www.fish.state.pa.us/dir_regions.htm
New York (800)TIPPDEC or 24 Hour dispatch (877)457-5680
http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/2460.html
Wisonsin (800) TIP-WDNR, Cell phones dial #367
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/es/enforcement/hotline.htm
Karl
Edited by KARLOUTDOORS 5/28/2007 11:28 PM
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Location: oswego, il | Indiana is 1-800-TIP-IDNR |
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Location: Wisconsin | Aaron, I remember Rambo. He gave a 12 year old girl a ticket for catching undersized bass. The girl was told to keep all the bluegills, fishing on the dock, which she did. She didn't realize that the 11" bass was under the limit. She didn't know it was a bass, but Rambo gave her a ticket anyway. I think a local club paid the ticket and had some kid's education fishing days or something, but I know that Rambo got some threats about it.... This was Barron Cty. |
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