realism vs contrast
lambeau
Posted 5/4/2007 2:48 PM (#254632)
Subject: realism vs contrast


there's a lot of high-art baits being produced, with some amazingly realistic stuff being posted in this forum.
there's been a few comments and questions about whether or not they would/should be used to actually catch fish. i'll leave that to everyone's personal preferences.

for me, i like some contrast and some brightness in my lure selection when they're actually going to be used to catch fish.
this Perkette i just got is about as good as it gets. nice job, Beav!




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Scott
Posted 5/4/2007 4:57 PM (#254656 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast


That's a very well painted Bait...a very beautiful one. I love the 2 color combinations. Beaver has always impressed me with his baits.
Grunt Lures
Posted 5/4/2007 5:54 PM (#254664 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast





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Location: Minnesota
I like the purple/yellow combo with a little silver scaling myself. Nice one.
Jason413
Posted 5/4/2007 5:56 PM (#254665 - in reply to #254656)
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Very nice color combo!
Tigger
Posted 5/4/2007 6:29 PM (#254676 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast





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Location: Burton, Ohio
I just got 2 perka's in the mail today. I went out to my pond and casted them. The action matches the paint! Awesome!!!!!!!!!!! I got two real nice ones "firetiger" and a "silver scale " . Beave I like the signature on the back! They will be put on my wall of fame! Collectables!
BigMo
Posted 5/4/2007 6:49 PM (#254681 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast




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Location: Clintonville, WI
I prefer contrast no matter what the lure, water color/type, weather.

Contrast in gaudy colors, contrast in natural patterns is what I will reach for first except for a few bodies of water I fish where solid black is best (what other solid color is there?!). Even then, after thinking about it, many of the solid black favorites have orange somewhere (blade / tail).

I will pick a "natural" pattern - not necessarily realisitc - with contrast even in stained water, unless it is extreme stained such as Moen Chain. An example of my favorite "natural" pattern with contrast is............the Beav 5 Spot Perka.

I like the classic barred pattern for contrast but really like spots/dots of some variation or even two colors distinctly separated as contrast.

Another thought, I like prism flash as much a brightness in colors.

jonnysled
Posted 5/4/2007 7:00 PM (#254685 - in reply to #254632)
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or black
toothn'nail
Posted 5/5/2007 5:49 AM (#254745 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast




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Location: SW Michigan
Like the old song said, "Even better than the real thing". Very nice.
gerard
Posted 5/5/2007 6:53 PM (#254790 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast


Do you know how I can bet ahold of Stan Durst? He owes me a lure order from last year and I'm trying to get my new lures before trip in few weeks.

Gerard Sheehan
Beaver
Posted 5/5/2007 9:54 PM (#254811 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast


Thanks guys.
Real or contrast.......I'll take contrast every time. What I like to do is add some bit of contrast to a realistic pattern. The best of both worlds.
Glad you like the paint jobs, now go stick them in some big pigs mouth, where it belongs.
It's always nice to hear compliments
Beav
uptown
Posted 5/5/2007 10:04 PM (#254818 - in reply to #254811)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast




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Location: mpls
I like contrast as well. Black and white combo's are my go to combo's.
RiverMan
Posted 5/6/2007 1:57 PM (#254872 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast




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Location: Oregon
Although I very much appreciate the effort and talent that goes into a lure that looks "very real" I have my doubts as to whether it will be any more effective than a lure without perfect gill lines, mouth, lips, scales, and eyelashes, lol. Keep in mind we are talking about a critter with a brain the size of a pencil eraser. If a musky was intelligent enough to investigate a lure for lips, gills, etc., I suspect we would never be able to catch them. More important than anything else is lure action. Does the lure action reproduce the correct wobble, wiggle, and swim of a familiar prey item? After that in order of importance is probably size and finally color. All the scales and other realistic stuff we builders put on lures are for fisherman, not fish.

jed v.

Edited by RiverMan 5/6/2007 1:59 PM
Musky Snax
Posted 5/6/2007 2:36 PM (#254875 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
No arguments from me! Action, size, profile then color/contrast. That's the order of importance for me anyway. I've always agreed that the super detail is to sell the baits not catch fish. A good basic rendition of a baitfish doesn't hurt though for sure when the fish are pressured. I like to walk that fine line between form and function but function comes first every time.
muskynightmare
Posted 5/6/2007 11:23 PM (#254949 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast





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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
Contrast most times. Contrast catches your attention, as well as everything else on the planet (camo breaks up contrast).
However, several lakes I fish will not draw so much as a follow, because fish are (in my opinion) are as conditioned to contrast as they are to rattles.
k-bob
Posted 5/7/2007 12:05 AM (#254953 - in reply to #254949)
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Location: Marshfield, WI
Gerard,
Here is his email: [email protected] He doesn't get online too often and has fallen behind on painting baits due to a new job that he has been working 60 hours/week. He has told me he is trying to get caught up. Hopefully he will get mine done soon.
Krishna
Gerard
Posted 5/7/2007 8:31 AM (#254975 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast


Thanks for the address I;ll try and reach him again.


Gerard
Beaver
Posted 5/7/2007 10:54 AM (#255008 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast


Whoever said it.......attraction.
That is why I put more time into balancing and weighting and tweaking lures than painting them. Action gets their attention. Contrast, at times, makes it easier to draw their attention.
Then their mood dictates the rest.
Beav
Musky Snax
Posted 5/7/2007 11:02 AM (#255010 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Silly me...I put tons of time into both! lol
Beaver
Posted 5/7/2007 1:12 PM (#255034 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: RE: realism vs contrast


Snax, I don't think that you've ever done anything silly.....unless you're wearing a clown suit when you're painting and just not telling us.
Musky Snax
Posted 5/7/2007 3:01 PM (#255050 - in reply to #254632)
Subject: Re: realism vs contrast





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Beaver, you'd fall out of your chair if you ever saw some of the outfits I wear while I'm working! No clown suits but some pretty messed up old shirts and pants coated in layers of paint and epoxy that could stand up without me in them! lol