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| say that its only muskies and that all other fish suck????? I might not get to go musky fishing more than onceor twice this year i have to help my dad build his house. The only fishing i get to do is bass by my self. i could care less if you don't fish for bass or walleyes don't say they suck because you don't fish for them. |
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Location: Plover, WI | I'm with you, guts. I love muskies and fishing for them, but I love FISHING more. Any time I can go fishing, I will, and it won't matter what for. Don't forget about the fish that got you where you are today!!
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Same here. I'm a bass fisherman at heart, addicted to muskies as a result of catching some while trying to catch either.
Beav and I spent a day at the Rhinelander outing busting largemouth. I think we caught about 25 up to about 4#. He kicked my hinder. |
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| I fish Crappies until Bass season opens, and fish Bass until the Muskie season opens. I then fish Muskies about 3 out of every 4 trips until the lake ices up, with Bass fishing taking up the other 25% of those trips. It's worked for me for about 6 years now. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I started targeting muskies last year, but fished for bass, walleyes, northern pike, crappies, 'gills, perch, you name from the time I was 3 years old. I REALLY got into musky fishing last year, but that won't keep me from enjoying the fast action of panfish and sometimes walleyes. You'd have a hard time keeping me from bringing home a meal of panfish or 'eyes now and then too. At certain times of the year, smallmouth can be a lot of fun in a lake I know of where they seem to start growing at 16 inches, and get bigger from there.
Muskies are GREAT, but there is nothing wrong with any fish. Heck, some people love catching carp.
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| If AROZ is checking this, he is a culprit of this. I'll show you some fun when we get onto a darn good bullhead run!!!
I'll fish for anything. Bullheads, sucker runs, panfish...you name it. I'll get cranked up just as much, if not more for my time in a trout stream than I will for muskies. |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | I love to catch muskies but don't mind catching walleyes when the conditions and walleyes agree.
Multi species is only one of the reasons I love to guide and fish Pewaukee Lake. Pike, Walleyes, Large and Smallmouth Bass, all get cuaght while trolling for muskies in June and July.
Come on, everyone has had a blast catching gills from time to time.
But if the choice is there I will always fish for muskies.............. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | catching fish is fun..regardless of species...river eyes in March / April...then on to big cats in April / May and have a blast with big gills in July / August when water temps get too high....90% muskies, 10% other fish...
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| An average year...
-River Walleye in March and April
-Slab Crappie in April
-Crappie/Walleye/Smallmouth in May (and Turkey hunting this year)
-Muskies open in June
-Fish river Smallies/Musky all summer long with some Largemouth,'Gills and Cats during the few "Hot" weeks we get in late summer.
-fall river Smallmouth/Muskies
-Great late fall Walleye trolling on some metro lakes
-Early Ice Pike
-Mid winter Walleye
-Late Ice Perch and Crappie
Then throw in some Rooster, Grouse and Deer hunting and you'll see why I'm broke!
I don't think other fish suck. I'll keep my opinion about people who say that other fish suck to myself. |
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| Guts,
Lets put it this way, if it swims I'll fish for it. I love the water and anytime I can get out on it I'm happy. Thats why my Lab (Sophie) and I get along so well. We both think we are really ducks.
Dave
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | I fish for food from ice up until muskys open. Lori and I will still fish for walleyes in Bago one night after work each week until bowhunting opens (this year, lol) |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | This was Saturday....hmmm, would it have been better to sit at home and watch fishing on tv and hoping the ice would melt. Fishing for muskies in Chicago from about May 15th - September 1st is a crowded mess, or it involves driving like a schmuck to waters probably no closer than 2 hours away (and I really dont like the crowds on the chain). So, this year, I'm hoping to be doing the SalmonFIRST or SmallmouthFIRST thing on the BIG Pond as often as the weather allows!
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | Never have fished for another fish...never been bass fishing, walleye fishing, pike fishing, trout fishing, nothing.....
All other fish TO ME are dumb and not worth catching, or seem to easy to catch.
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | I think the majority of musky fishermen are multi-species fishermen. Their passion just happens to be with muskies. I fish muskies 90% of the time but fishing for other species is great too, especially when the musky season isn't open. But I will take the opportunity to "knock" the other species when I'm talking to a non-musky fishing friend. All in good fun. "Usually" they know not to take me seriously when I'm giving them a hard time!
So for other people that say that if it's not a musky it "sucks", as guts said...do they really mean what they say? I happen to believe that it's more a level of how much they enjoy musky fishing over literally meaning that other fish suck. I'd be shocked if these people don't own tackle that's geared towards other species. (Except for Hulbert!!!)
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Location: So. Illinois | Interesting replys but no one has answered the question "why do some say all other fish suck." In my circle of close fishing friends, I am the only one who actively fishes for muskie. I use it as a way to poke fun (good natured) at my friends (who fish bass, crappie, other species) who have not or will not join me muskie fishing. I tell them that they will not understand until they actually catch there first. My boss is a big bass finatic. It took me two years of goading before he finally took me up on my offer. Result was a fat 44" prespawn beauty that left him speachless.
To answer your question, its just a fun way to poke a little fun at those who don't understand our passion for these fish.
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say that its only muskies and that all other fish suck????? I might not get to go musky fishing more than onceor twice this year i have to help my dad build his house. The only fishing i get to do is bass by my self. i could care less if you don't fish for bass or walleyes don't say they suck because you don't fish for them. |
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| I'll fish for anything with gills and fins, even in a box.One of my most fond memories was taking my daughter Ally to the trout pond at the sport show in Cedar Rapids about 5 yrs. ago.She stuck one after another , to the amazement of all the onlookers.How did she do it? Dad "read" the current in the pool.I would have never thought of it had I not fished rivers and streams for trout, walleye, white bass, smallmouth bass, sauger, catfish, pike and of course muskies.Oh, did I forget Carp?They still put a bend in the rod.The best anglers on the planet are multi-species, including the best muskie anglers.I've learned a ton about baitfish migration by talking to "other" anglers at the landing.There's so much to learn from the other fish. Steve |
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| Life's too short to just focus on one fish. There' so much more out there to learn and experience.
There's so much more to fishing by fishing for other species. There's a LOT to be learned by fishing for other species.
It's fun and relaxing to mix it up and change up the game plan and fish for other fish at times. That way, there's no way to get "burnt out." Everyone will eventually hit a burn out rate at some point doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Some may burn out earlier than others...but eventually....everyone will find that threshold where they've had enough and need something different.
I've been a multi-species angler since I've been a young kid who started fishing at age 4. I didn't start doing the muskie thing until one summer when I was 8. I must admit...I have a very fond place in my heart for the muskie...and the pike as well. However, I'm not blinded by the muskie to think that there isn't any other fish worth persuing.
There's a time and a place for everything. To each his own.
If you specifically target just Muskie only and nothing else or if you're a multi-species angler...doesn't make either of them right or wrong. Just a matter of opinion.
Heck...even the stray Sheephead on an ultra-light spinning combo while targeting gills and perch is a good time!
When it comes to freshwater game fish, there's isn't too many left on the list that I haven't fished for.
I even enjoy getting out on the ocean when I can going after whatever out there as well. I just wish time and money allowed for more of that. However, obviously, living in a land locked state, nowhere near any ocean, doesn't allow for that very often.
I'd say that I'm one that fishes for anything that swims as well. Heck...there was even a few years back in grade school, Jr. High and High School that some buddies and I would go and target fishing for Snapping Turtles! THAT was a blast! Nothing like trying to reel in a 40 lb snapping turtle across the bottom of a lake or pond. We'd fish for them using raw bacon. Good times. Just a friendly note...don't leave the raw bacon in your tackle box and forget about it during the summer months...you'll come back to find your tackle box taken over by maggots! LOL! Good times...good times.... |
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Location: Iowa | I think it sometimes can be tied in with a little bit of arrogance...this sort elitist thought that muskies are the greatest fish ever when some people think that walleyes are the ticket or bass, northerns, crappies, etc...for me if I were to focus on only muskies in Iowa it would be a very short season...the water hits 80 degrees about the middle of June so I have no other choice...I fish for bass a lot during the summer and walleyes when I get the chance...every once in a great while I will go chase crappies...northerns are few and far between around here unless you get lucky and stick one on the river...catfishing takes up a good part of the summer for me too...it's nice and relaxing to sit on the bank and drnk a few beers...
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Location: Southeast Wisconsin | for some people, fishing for any other species besides muskies sucks...Others enjoy an all around angling experience and most dont fish for muskies at all.
Since I caught my first ski in 2001 I havent fished for anything else, but will definitely be fishing for harbor browns next dec/jan/feb
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| Most of the best musky fishemen I know are very good multi species anglers too. Gotta know how to catch what they eat too! |
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| I like it all, too. Bass season opens a week after Opener up here, so that's the only species I devote zero time to, because it's open when muskie is. (Best bait for a 4# plus bass is an 8-10" muskie lure anyway ha ha). If bass opened a few weeks or months before muskies season, I'd probably fish them a little, too. Pike get equal time and effort too, lots of nice ones trolling muskies summer/fall on some waters. Do a lot of icefishing for everything, and love lake trout, rainbows, walleye and perch in the early spring also. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | I think that some people feel they are wasting their time, or maybe even lowering themselves to fish for other species. I wish more people would feel that way though, really, and just quit fishing altogether. 'My' streams and rivers are just too crowded with people that think they like to fish... I liked it better back in high school when fishing wasn't 'cool', and we were looked upon with distaste and deemed 'rednecks' by peers for doing so.
If you love to fish, and live in the northern states, you have to chase other fish around or you go nuts and get too drunk though. As a year round angler, water/fish behavior reading skills, as well as the more important 'green light to leave the house' by the wife, skills need to remain honed through chasing species like gills and cats, steelhead and smallies. It is my opinion, but not chasing other species because feeling that doing so is a waste of time, too easy, or beneath ones self, is a bit narrow minded. Ice fishing sucks, though I did drag myself out on the first pike trip of the year yesterday. I'd rather fish Walleyes.
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| LOVE the PBR hat Jason! Life is way too short to waste all your time musky fishing. As long as it fights, I'll fish for it!
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Location: Nebraska | I have to target other species because of where I live. I'd love to be able to fish for muskies only. Just not an option.
I think that it is somewhat people's nature. Bass guys often look down on pan fisherman. Lots of fisherman love to walleye fish, others think that it is a waste of time to fish for a fish that "can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag". Lots of fisherman look down on those that catfish. I used to, but got into catfishing last year and found myself out probably 20-30 nights, by myself, catfishing. It was fun and I got to get out my muskie rods that only see action on one trip a year. Many look down on carp fishing. While I no longer look down on carp fishermen, I do look down on the species as a detriment to our small fisheries in Nebraska. They can wreak havoc on small bodies of water. |
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Location: Madtown, WI | I think Jason is a fashion GOD! Why GQ hasn't been knocking at his door is beyond me....the way he dons the PBR hat and a nice hit of Redman....only a true GQ stud can pull off this move....and the hair.....it takes him hours to get it to look that tossed, unkept look....the man is a fashion genius...
ANd a pretty darn good fisherman too!
Nice snotrocket J-man!!
Oh, and I am on vacation tomorrow....Chasing river eyes!!!!
Cory
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Other species are fine until musky opens. Nothing wrong with jigging up a few eyes or catching a pile of slabs in the spring.
Once musky season opens though....................... |
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Location: Brainerd Area | Its just as much fun catching a 8 lb bass or a 10 lb eye or even a 2 lb crappie as it is to boat a big ol musky. Being a guide that will guide for anything I get the chance to see the looks on alot of kids faces when they boat a huge crappie or sunnie and even a eyeonce and awile and that alone is worth being on the water for me. Not to mention there parents faces when there kids catch the fish. Any fish, any time, anyplace. |
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Location: SW Michigan | Wow, this thread is an eye opener for me. Great to see this site isn't a bunch of "purist" type fishermen. I love to fish for just about everything, too. I just want to add Musky to my list of possibilities. Got a seasonal routine here, too. Springtime Browns & Coho on Lake Michigan, walleye on the Detroit or Saginaw, then there's the local lakes for panfish, bass, pike & hopefully Musky this year. Might even try Lake St. Clair this year, too. Dunno how much travelin' I'll do if gas goes outa sight, again. |
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Location: Williamstown, WV | I can fish musky all year long in West Virginia but I don't. I enjoy getting out for saugers on the ohio river in winter/early spring. I really enjoy catching 25lb flatheads on the ohio river in may/june. If I only fished for one fish all year I'd go nuts. Multispecies, in my opinion, is the way to go. You have more fun and you learn more about fishing. I look at Al Lindner, who's a multispecies guy, and consider him to be one of the best. I think if you totally fish for musky then maybe your missing some other good times. this year I'm actually going to target longnose gar on the ohio river. Found a great lure that I'm gonna make and try on these 4 foot toothy critters.
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | Also, I might add that I hate to eat fish...so no real reason to fish for other species.
Another way I look at it is like this....going bass, perch, crappie, walleye fishing is like buying a Mustang with a V-6 or a full size truck with a V-6....why do it??? If you are going fishing, fish for the beast, with the most power, best strikes and something that actually gets the heart pumping....I have yet to see a crappie, perch, walleye, etc....that looks like it would get me excited. |
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Location: Davenport, IA | I'll fish for anything. In the summer it gets too hot to fish for muskies so I hit the Mississippi river for bass. Its a lot of fun because you catch as many other fish as bass. Northerns, white bass, stripers (and hybrids), walleyes, catfish, big crappies, dogfish, ect have all been caught fishing a crankbait for bass. I don't' spend the winter sharpening hooks in front of the tv either. I go icefishing for bass and bluegills. |
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Location: north central wisconsin |
Cory, interesting(and flattering) that you brought that up. GQ, not a chance. I am still waiting for my call from the Fleet Farm flier publicists though.. I sent several pose photos in awhile back and have not heard a thing. I really like the 'left hand on the chin, right hand pointing at dead tree foot on log next to running chain saw' pose, and they haven't used it in their fall or spring issue. As far as the Red Man, all part of the getup. The wife actually makes me chew it during photo shots. She also feels that the chew deters the girl oggling that surely follows when my photos are shown in their company..heheh. The hair is a direct result of free-haircut-cessation by my mom, the beautician. I just won't go to another barber, and would prefer to not pay for them either. The unkempt hair look, which actually takes more than a few hours to achieve(I sleep on it for about 7 hours before appearances) does not fit into my favorite name brand caps now, thus my resorting to the five panel foam front high hats that now fit. My buddy Greg(maker of the GP Thumper spinnerbait among other fine Musky tackle) refers to them as his 'big hair' hats as he has an entire set of caps for each do.
Good luck on the 'eyes man.
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| If you are going fishing, fish for the beast, with the most power, best strikes and something that actually gets the heart pumping....I have yet to see a crappie, perch, walleye, etc....that looks like it would get me excited.
lol, Mike...you do know that you are allowed to use lighter gear when fishing for other fish, right? 
a bull bluegill on an ultralight puts up a pretty dang good fight.
a nice smallie on 8lb test and the right rod will make you work harder and with more fish-fighting skill than many muskies do when you're using xhvy gear.
they'll get your heart pumping if you give them a chance.
with the arrival of children, i know i'll be revisiting my panfishing roots in the near future! and actually, i'm pretty pleased with the idea.
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Location: Williamstown, WV | Ever tango with a 30lb + flathead catfish or a 20+ carp Mike? Try it..I've actually set the hook on catfish in the ohio river that don't move when you set the hook. And talk about a rod pumping, drag pulling experience. Try it, you won't be disappointed.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Shawn, I have fished with my kids for carp at our cottage just to show them how to fight a hard pulling fish. I grew up catching those stupid carp almost every day for excitement. They are some real hard core drag stripping fighters. Then our reward was to beat them like a drum and give them to all the neighbors for their gardens. Great stuff when your 10 to 13years old and live on the lake.
I have turned on lots of people who live on the lake to carp fishing. A few cans of corn and your in for hours of fun. Can beat that if you don't have a boat and only have panfish rods.
A bunch of years back we had a "carp out" contest. My brother and I caught 811lbs of carp in a day. Talk about tired arms and a nasty smelling boat. We filled garbage cans and then took them in two at a time to the scale and then back out to our carp zone to fill the garbage cans again. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i gotta agree with hulbert ... unless the bull bluegill gets hammered by the musky when it's fighting on that ultra-light ... for me it's muskies only in the open water season and then flags for meat pike in the winter ... nothing else would win over golf or cycling or snowmobiling etc... if i targeted other species for a full day i'd go nuts. big muskies make the anticipation and hours worth it on the water imo |
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| all fish suck if they aint biting. the good lord made perch and walleyes for batter. guts dont feel bad theres guys who cant even fish due to disabilities. if you ask the majority of fishermen cut there teeth on sunnys and bass long before the musky bug bit em. or they just plain dont like cleanin fish |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Dont bass fish much anymore, but when i do i still get excited. Going down to Dale Hollow every year during spawn time fishin for 6+ pound smallies is a blast as well as sight fishin for big largemouths in the shallows! One thing i could never do though is fish for bass on any lake that has good muskie fishin in it. yes dale hollow has muskies in it, but not enough to spend any time chasin them.
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Location: searchin for 50 | Because muskies rock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not many other fish you get to see smoke your lure at boatside. And because muskies eat all them other fish. My2cents worth. Later  |
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| "If you are going fishing, fish for the beast, with the most power, best strikes and something that actually gets the heart pumping...."....Mike H.
As mentioned above, big carp and flathead cats are beasts, too. I know from experience that carp fight much better than muskies. For example, it took my daughter about a half hour to land a 25# carp from shore on a local river. We had to use muskie rods and extra strong hooks due to so many break-offs and straightened out hooks. |
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Location: Madison, WI | http://www.gettinghooked.net/Episode%2007-2007.wmv
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Location: Minnesota | When I go out I have a few rods and tackle to fish for crappie, bass, muskie, and walleye. If I get a little tired of fishing for muckies I go catch 20 crappie in 30 minutes and back to muskies. I think the majority of muskie fishermen do fish for other types.
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| I like winter crappies, good eats!
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| I am one of those people. Ever since I caught my first musky thats all I fish for. Don't get me wrong if I go to a lake that doesn't have ski's I will still go fishing but if I am on a musky lake you can bet your ass I'll be tossing musky baits and not perch jerkin'. I used to get excited when I'd bring in a 5 lb bass now I look at it like bait. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | ghitierman... so the other 150 days out of the year, you just stop fishing? wouldn't you rather run the monte than sit at home while a dance is going on, even if it isn't the prom?
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Location: MPLS, MN | Muskies are only one of the great species to target. Muskies are my favorite but I could never be a one species only guy. I try to get 15 differant species caught every year as a goal over a certain # of Muskies. |
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Location: Illinois | I get the same feeling of excitement waiting for first ice that I do in anticipation of musky season. The feeling of being on big panfish you found on your own, away from the crowd. The sight of the flag up and wondering what you have. These are things that I relish. I love musky fishing but it's more about being outside and enjoying life for me. Maybe thats why I will never be a great musky fisherman. Don't get me wrong, I fish hard and can be as focused as the next guy, but when I first started fishing it wasn't only to catch big muskies. That part is no different for me today. Also, for a weekend warrior like me, when your season goes bad, it may be 3 weeks between muskies. Getting back to the basics and catching some pannies, bass or walleyes can be just the ticket. |
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Location: Washington, PA | I fish muskies 95% of the time, but love smallmouth fishing too. I like to fish for both, on the same trip, to break the day up if things are tough. I've been known to sneak off to the mountains of west by god virginia in winter to fish for native trout. Something to be said for the scenery I guess. |
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| Long time site stalker; infrequent / rare poster.
Having an employer who frowns on such things and a large family will do that to a guy, but a few things in this thread brought out the courage to post.
Lambeau have fun with the family. When kids are real young, you can still get out and fish the way you have historically. When they grow up to ages 6,7,8+, demands tend to change. I have four kids and between basketball, baseball, soccer, school and what not it’s a wonder I get to fish at all.
After having fished nearly exclusively for muskies during the past 20 years (spring and fall walleyes being the exception), I began seeking out alternatives as a way to keep my boys interested in the great outdoors. My boys have caught muskies up to 36 inches at a young age and have netted a few over 40 inches, but since they are not yet teenagers, I’ve found their ability to endure more than a few hours in the boat at a time to be lacking. The attention span and mental effort doesn’t seem to be there.
Thus, I decided to explore action fishing to keep them interested.
While these don’t have the ferocious fight of musky, they certainly are worthy of a great fight especially on light spinning tackle.
The one pic with Milwaukee’s middle finger in the background was 30 inches with a 22 inch girth (75% of the length). It’s a blast fishing these during the musky off-season.
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| Well, I obviously don't know what I am doing. I thought I posted a picture, but obviously not.
Posting two pics within the same post is also apparently beyond the realm of my skill.
Sorry for mucking up the thread.
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Location: Northern Illinois | I like all types of fish, they make great forage for the Muskies. |
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