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| The article "Muskie Talk With Josh Borovsky" mentioned Pink Days....
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/articles/02.27.2007/1162/Muskie.Tal...
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M1st: Tell me about "Pink Days". What are they, and why do you think they are special?
Josh Borovsky: Every year, I make my own custom moon calendar. There are a handful of key days that I highlight in pink. Basically, these are days where there is significant overlap between the perigee of the moon and a full moon or new moon. It usually only happens a few times each season. For the past seven years in a row, the biggest fish in my boat has been caught on a pink day. I charge guide clients slightly more to fish on these days, but theyve found it to be well worth it.
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Has anyone else had similar results using the Pink Days?
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| Can someone explain the "perigee" of the moon? Never heard this term before... |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | I haven't tried it, but it looks like there might be something to it...a 7 year track record really can't be totally ignored.
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Does anyone know of any online calander that shows the moon perigee dates along with the moon phases? |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I agree that these days have a "head start" on having the right stuff for musky activity. The local weather pattern will have a much greater influence on the activity level you will see on the water however.
If these days have the right weather......Look out! |
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Location: The Yahara Chain | I'll let you know at the end of the year, I just marked them on my calendar.
Think pink |
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Location: The Yahara Chain | jclymer - 2/27/2007 9:35 AM
Can someone explain the "perigee" of the moon? Never heard this term before...
Apogee and Perigee of the Moon
Apogee and perigee refer to the distance from the Earth to the moon. Apogee is the furthest point from the earth. Perigee is the closest point to the earth and it is in this stage that the moon appears larger. Looking at the moon in the sky without anything to compare it to, you wouldn't notice any size difference. But the difference in size can in fact be quite significant.
Astronomers have formulas for computing the exact distance at any point in time, but the average distance from Earth is 237,700 miles (382,500 km).
Effects of Apogee and Perigee
The apogee and perigee of the moon have a definite affect on the weather and tides here on Earth. When the moon is at Apogee, the furthest distance from the Earth, it has less gravitational pull. Weather conditions can be more stable and the tides more predictable. When the moon is at perigee, closer to the Earth, there is much more gravitational pull and it can whip up the tides and cause weather to become more unstable.
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Location: The Yahara Chain | muskie_man - 2/27/2007 9:40 AM
Does anyone know of any online calander that shows the moon perigee dates along with the moon phases?
Check this out.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/pacalc.html |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | There's a calender out there that can be found on www.primetimes2.com that has a lot of this information. In 2004 we tracked after the fact and most of our fish activity came during the "prime times". |
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Location: Girdwood, Alaska | Muskie Bob - 2/27/2007 9:25 AM
The article "Muskie Talk With Josh Borovsky" mentioned Pink Days....
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...Basically, these are days where there is significant overlap between the perigee of the moon and a full moon or new moon.
What exactly does he mean by 'significant overlap', I wonder. Would a Perigee on August 31, and a full moon on august 28 be significant? I sure hope so, because that's when our trip to canada is planned 
Edited by A-ROZ 2/27/2007 11:14 AM
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | A-Roz,
I think you're on the right track. The days you mentioned are some of Josh's pink days for '07. Stick a slob in Canada!
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Location: Girdwood, Alaska | Oops, I was looking at the wrong dates. I meant July 30th and August 3rd... there is a 4 day difference there. I hope that is just as good |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Not sure why, but according to his calendar, not as good. Although there is ONE day he has listed from 7/30 to 8/3. So you still have a window of opportunity to get the next world record!
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Location: minocqua, wi. | is there a way to quickly find out historical perigee dates and do some correllation to fish caught historically in logs? |
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Location: searchin for 50 | Sledcheck out Bytors post I think you'll find what you need |
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| AWH,
Where did you see his calendar at?? When on his website and saw where he explains his "pink days" but I could not find a calendar of available dates, etc...
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i clicked on bytor's post and logged this year's into outlook, but maybe need to dig further .... thanks |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | A-Roz, correction from my last post. Your end of July/early August trip looks just as good per the pink calendar!
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ok, did the check at least for my single largest "event" ... it occured on a new moon phase, within 24 hours of perigree with a front coming in. i think i'll be marking calendars a bit more ... |
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Location: Appleton | I'm just guessing but looking the perigee and apogee the two best days seem to be October 26th and November 9th. The 26th would lineup with a full moon and the 9th would lineup with a new moon. Also November 24th seems to be a good day as well. Other days might be May 15th, June 12th, July 22, Aug 19, Sept 28 and Oct 13. Don't take my word for it just my best guess. |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Jclymer,
I have a calendar of Josh's pink days as supplied by Josh himself at the Medina show. I'm thinking it wouldn't be a good idea to post them publicly. Not sure exactly how he comes up with which days to highlight. From June through November he has 44 different days on there (if my count is correct).
Team Rhino, of the 9 dates you listed from June to November you hit on 5 of the 9. I'm still trying to figure out how to calculate which days would be "pink" days. Bytor's link he provided is a good one!
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Location: Madtown, WI | The May 15/16th looks good
Agu 28-31 ish looks good
Sept 26-28th look good
But the ones that make me wet my pants are the weekends of Oct 26 and Nov 24th from both the Perigee/moon phase hitting the same day AND the historical quality of fishing during these two time frames.....I already have blocks of time blocked out for fishing these two weekends!!!!
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Location: The Yahara Chain | PI '07...the year of the pink pigs.  |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | PI '07...the year of the pink pigs.
Did I do something right, and plan the PI outing on a PINK WEEKEND? |
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| It's all pink.The whole season.Every single day.I'm all in! Steve
Edited by Steve Jonesi 2/27/2007 2:51 PM
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| Slamr
I believe you did, sir! I fully expect my PB for the year to be boated that weekend! |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | I’ve always been a believer that weather plays a much bigger factor than the moon. Although you certainly can’t discount the moon playing a factor. After looking through my logs and comparing them to the perigees going back to 2002, I’ve come to a conclusion….there’s nothing to conclude! At least not from my records. This amounts to over 2,100 hours on the water in the past 5 seasons.
Here’s what I found. Had some great “pink” days and some even better “non-pink” days. Had some horrible “pink” days too. I can’t confidently say “pink” or “non-pink” days have been better in my boat. So I’m with Steve….every day is pink. I think I’ll fish them all!
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| '07...the year of the pink pigs. :o
i guess i better call Guide's Choice and order a full line-up of pink lures!
the "Pink Day" concept is an interesting one.
i see that my fall MN trip next year will hit the Perigee/Full Moon combo days. i'm hoping a nice storm front rolls in right around that time like it did last year.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | lambeau - 2/27/2007 3:45 PM
i see that my fall MN trip next year will hit the Perigee/Full Moon combo days. i'm hoping a nice storm front rolls in right around that time like it did last year.
This time, bring a camera that can take pictures in the day, or in the night-time.
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| Josh wrote an interesting article in Esox Angler about 2 years ago, talking about apogee and perigee, and the overlap with full moon/new moon cycle as well as the overlap with the high/low cycle of the moon. He recommended Rick Taylor's Primetimes calendar in that article, and I believe most of his info has been adapted from Rick Taylor's system.
After reading Josh's article, I have purchased the Rick Taylor's Primetimes calendar and CD Rom each of the past 2 years. It's pretty neat, because you can plug in the exact GPS coordinates of the location you will be fishing, and the software will calculate all of the times for the key solar and lunar events for the day at that specific location. Results have been pretty good so far, although I haven't fished enough the past 2 years to eliminate the possibility of "lucky coincidences". Will need a larger sample size of data to verify for myself, but would highly recommend the book "How to Know when to Go" by Rick Taylor.
Rick's theories make a lot of sense to me, and his conclusions/predictions seem very logical to me based on his reasoning. Definitely worth looking into in my opinion.
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| Hi Guys,
Sorry, I'm so late on getting in on this. I've got a million things going on right now so I have to keep my post brief (or try to). My article in the Fall 2004 issue of Esox Angler covers all of this in detail so there is a reference for you that will be more detailed than I have time for right now.
Basically, what I am doing is looking for the days when the moon is closest to earth (perigee being the closest and 3 days either side) if any of those days overlap with the three days before, after, or day of a new moon or full moon I expect big things to happen. That is the short version although not complete.
There are other factors to consider as well such as the high/low moon cycle and important peaks and valleys in catch rates on particular bodies of water, peaks and valleys in fish pressure, bait fish migrations, etc. All this ties into my "transparency theory" which I talk about in the article.
The more good things that come together in one place, the more likely something big will happen. For example, October 23rd through October 30th, 2007. I will bet a lot of money a 50lb. fish will be taken that week and probably more than one. And I really will bet a lot of money if anyone wants to take the bet.
Also there's more to it than just fishing on those days. The idea is to take full advantage of all the lunar windows you are presented with for that specific day as well. It seems like things happen when they are supposed to happen on these days. Which makes picking off a big girl you saw earlier a little more predictable.
Gotta run guys.
Tight Lines.
- Josh
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Location: Madtown, WI | If you want to get into some serious data crunching programs this one will do...
http://www.starlight.demon.co.uk/mooncalc/
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Pink Days for large muskies????