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Location: Milwaukee Wi | ok i was told by someone that muskies have around 1200 psi biteing power in there jaw does anybody know different or the same??????????
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I'm pretty sure that's too much. |
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| I believe 1200 PSI is about what a crocodile has.
Considering that jaw spreaders work and you can compress them easily, I'd say it's a crock. (Or should I say "croc") LOL, get it? |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | I've been thinking about this since this thread came out. I wonder if by 1200 psi, we could consider the pressure at the end of a muskies tooth. Since Pressure = force divided by area, isn't it possible for a fish to exert that kind of pressure over a very tiny area, say the point of the tooth? I did some rough calculations sitting at home with my buddies the flu and my physics book, and figured that if a muskie delivered a bite with 4.8 lbs of overall force to it, 1200 psi could be delivered at the point of one tooth- that is figuring that about 250 muskie teeth/points fit onto a square inch (each tooth point being .004 inch). I think that's conservative. My belief is that 1200 psi is possible at the point of the teeth, and that's why God gave these guys teeth like this- very little bite pressure needed to drive those long and sharp teeth through flesh to hold onto prey...or my fingers. Hopefully someone who really knows what they are doing will check this out and get back to us.
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Location: Milwaukee Wi | Think of it this way look at an old suick that has produced ive seen them with holes looks like a pencile you just chewed on right now some people use hard wood for lures and muskies still sink there teeht to the gums in them its got to be up there. Hopefully we can find out the answer so we can improve the longevity of our baits. |
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| I think those marks are usually from the hookset and the fight. Think about the slight recurve of the tooth as well as the angle in the mouth. When we set a hook or fight the fish, we are driving that tooth further into the bait.
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Location: Milwaukee Wi | thats a good way of looking at it we do pull really hard to set the hook!!!!! |
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| Plus, with a suick you are looking at a very soft wood (pine) which is easy to drive anything sharp into.
If you put all of the muskie's jaw pressure on one single tooth, right at the very tip, you'd get that 1200 psi just due to the lack of area. But..when you fill the mouth with teeth, you spread that out significantly.
I agree with the jaw spreader deal for the most part... Althouth I have seen my share of jaw spreaders go "Fling" right out and into the water. Thank God they make string to tie them to the boat.
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Location: Rhinelander. | The amount of force you think you are actually giving on a hookset is alot less then you think. By the time your rod flexs, line streches or slack remved and with the resistance of the water on line,bait and fish it really makes it alot less then you think.
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Edited by Don Pfeiffer 2/22/2007 10:09 PM
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Location: Milwaukee Wi | Ya but doesent a jaw spreader stun the fish kinda like when you pick a cat up by the scruff???? |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Not that I know of. I've had numerous pike which are notorious for closing their mouths once you are trying to remove hooks. Put th spreader in, they go flop, "FLING" and out goes the spreader.
Fish usually calm down after they have been touched and messed with a little, but I don't think it stuns them.
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muskies bite??????