Rod Holders
GLodden
Posted 1/24/2007 10:54 AM (#234076)
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Just got a new boat and need some rod holders to mount to a rail. Any suggestions? Down East? Bulletproof? Also, what are the pros and cons of the ones you suggest?
Thanks for your responses in advance.

Grant
AFChief
Posted 1/24/2007 11:12 AM (#234080 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: So. Illinois
I use the salty series DownEast for the rails (S-14) and absolutely love them.... No con's that I am aware of....

http://www.down-east.com/rail-mount.htm
tuffy1
Posted 1/24/2007 11:20 AM (#234081 - in reply to #234080)
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Location: Racine, Wi
I second the Down Easters. They are easy to install, and if you want to adjust the angle of your rod to the water, you just have to push the butt of the rod up or down.
reelman
Posted 1/24/2007 12:31 PM (#234102 - in reply to #234076)
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It depends on what you want to do with the rod holders. For my down rods I use the DownEaster but for anything else they are a PITA! Unless your rod is pointed down that it might fall out I would not want them. I much prefer the Lock-Tite or even a plastic Scotty. I know people don't like plastic Scotty's but I have used them for years on my Dipsey Diver rods without a problem and there is A LOT more preasure from a Dipsey than from a musky bait.
The Nate
Posted 1/24/2007 12:39 PM (#234104 - in reply to #234076)
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I third the downeasters!! Awesome holders and no worries in regard to failure (at least from my experience).
go browns
Posted 1/24/2007 8:35 PM (#234187 - in reply to #234076)
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i fourth the down east
musky39
Posted 1/24/2007 9:20 PM (#234190 - in reply to #234076)
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They call them Bulletproof for a good reason. The Downeasters are good but not even close to the Bulletproofs.
GLodden
Posted 1/25/2007 7:15 PM (#234354 - in reply to #234076)
Subject: RE: Rod Holders





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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Thanks for the responses guys. Suppose I'll check them out at the upcoming muskie shows and make a decision.

Grant
Shep
Posted 1/26/2007 8:24 AM (#234431 - in reply to #234354)
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I have switched to Folbe this year. I got tired of the Scotty's always popping up and out. The Folbe had a locking device on the mount, and it stays where you put it. The rod holder itself is unique, and slides to open and close. It is also lockable, to prevent unwanted action. Used them for a bit last year, and was impressed. The new Tuffy 1890 will have all Folbe's this year.
Matt Collins
Posted 1/26/2007 9:44 AM (#234442 - in reply to #234076)
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Do have a pic. of the Folbes by chance?
BALDY
Posted 1/26/2007 9:54 AM (#234445 - in reply to #234442)
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Matt Collins - 1/26/2007 9:44 AM

Do have a pic. of the Folbes by chance?


http://www.folbe.com
Shep
Posted 1/26/2007 11:00 AM (#234456 - in reply to #234445)
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Thanks, Baldy. Was gonna have him look below my signature. Ya beat me to it.
Matt Collins
Posted 1/26/2007 12:47 PM (#234472 - in reply to #234076)
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Those look pretty cool. Thanks. Didn't see the link below your name there Shep. DUH
GLodden
Posted 1/26/2007 4:30 PM (#234499 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Thanks Shep. Those look interesting. I'll have to check those out as well.

Grant
bobski
Posted 1/26/2007 9:16 PM (#234526 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Do the Folbes work well for propwash rods also? Does anybody around GB sell them?

Edited by bobski 1/26/2007 9:17 PM
musky39
Posted 1/26/2007 10:03 PM (#234530 - in reply to #234076)
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For serious muskie trolling, from my experience machined aluminum [bulletproof] or cast aluminum [downeaster] are the only way to go.
Plastic rod holders work well for other species. Banging 10"+ baits off the bottom is not for the faint of heart nor flimsy rod holders.
Since I started fishing for muskies I have had to upgrade everything. At first I learned the hard way by losing my largest fish so far because of medium strength gear. When the big girl comes a calling again, I am ready now.
SMOKER
Posted 1/26/2007 11:20 PM (#234536 - in reply to #234076)
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The Folbe rod holders are for all types of trolling AKA SPEED trolling at least to 10mph on any thing besides the GREAT big stuff.Prop wash,Lead balls,20oz spinnerbaits, you name it.Folbes are as good as if not better than Downeasterns due to their different mounts they have in stock.Al Nutty and I recieved some of the first ones to hit the MUSKY market.The King Salmon fisherman in the the North West have had them earlyier,So Folbe decided to test the musky market.If they could handle a 60# King the could handle a MUSKY.2 1/2 years later,4 tournyments,a 1st-2nd-5th-and 5th,and #s of fish up to 48"!!!!!!!!!!No problems what so ever!
Try them out You WILL like them!
Good Luck,Kyle Marsanick Smoker Tackle @ Kinkaid Guide Service
musky39
Posted 1/28/2007 10:17 PM (#234768 - in reply to #234076)
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I will give them a look. They would be the first synthetic rod holder that can handle hard core trolling. I had a scotty malfunction that left a loomis shimano setup in the water. Lucky I was back on the kicker and was able grab it before it sank. lol
Shep
Posted 1/29/2007 7:58 AM (#234789 - in reply to #234768)
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As Smoker said, the Folbe Rod Holders were designed in the Pacific Northwest for the King Salmon anglers. Now, the toughest type of fishing on my rod holders was Lake Michigan salmon. And the biggest fish I've had on were around 25 pounds or so. These things were way harder on the gear than any musky I've caught trolling, including fish to high 40's on Lake St Claire. I can't imagine the violence of the strike, and the extreme pressure a 60 pound plus King would put on the rod holders. If they can stand up to that, I'm not worried about any musky. I am impressed with the construction and features of the Folbe Rod Holders.
Al Nutty
Posted 1/29/2007 7:05 PM (#234908 - in reply to #234076)
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Folbes all the way. I never lock them when they're turned sideways, but for a propwash presentation this would be best. They're a glass-filled nylon, don't get cold or brittle like other plastics do, and they're very secure. Really like using the extender post as this gets them further up off the rail, and allows me to really stick the tips down underwater...this helps for some of the aggressive turns that Smoker knows we do at times...(LOL...we've been known to get distracted and make sharp turns close-in to the shoreline!)

Al Nutty
nutty4muskies
Posted 1/29/2007 7:10 PM (#234909 - in reply to #234076)
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Rollie & Helen's has 'em...
bobski
Posted 2/3/2007 12:55 PM (#236118 - in reply to #234908)
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Al, where did you find extender posts for the Folbes? haven't found any on the folbe site or Rollie & Helen's. Do you have a link?
Thanks
Bob
weedsnager
Posted 2/3/2007 7:42 PM (#236170 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: St. John, Indiana
anyone use the Ram Mount, it's what they were using on the last "next bite"
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=00014...
Shep
Posted 2/6/2007 9:06 AM (#236703 - in reply to #236170)
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Bob, the Rod Holder Extension is P/N F061.

I'll have a few catalogs at the Milwaukee Musky Expo and the rod holders on my boat.

Edited by Shep 2/6/2007 9:08 AM
bobski
Posted 2/6/2007 12:09 PM (#236752 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Thanks Shep, won't be able to make it to the expo. How long are the extensions?
nutty4muskies
Posted 2/6/2007 2:02 PM (#236774 - in reply to #234076)
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The extensions are 6" tall, and really helps get a better angle if you put your rodtips in the water while trolling (to keep weeds and debris from sliding down the line and fouling your lure...this tip down position also gets your bait a little deeper, and allows you to maintain better awareness of where your lure is!)

Al Nutty
Kinkaid Lake Guide Service

Been Nutty all my life, the insanity is a recent affliction!!
bobski
Posted 2/6/2007 7:16 PM (#236829 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Does anyone know if the bolt pattern matches the Scotty side mounts or have measurements? I'm hoping the holes match up so I can just swap the mounts to replace my Scottys and Fish-On holders with Folbes.... and swap back when I sell the boat.

Scotty and Fish-On side mounts are the same size and have the bolt holes in the same locations.

Thanks in advance.
Shep
Posted 2/8/2007 9:27 AM (#237192 - in reply to #236829)
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The Scotty's are about .040" wider. This should not be an issue in most applications. The Folbe's share the exact same bolt pattern as the Fish-on, Ram, and Attwood/Roberts.

I won't have my boat at the Milwaukee Expo afterall. But I will bring some Folbe stuff with me if anyone wants to see it.



Edited by Shep 2/8/2007 9:30 AM
bobski
Posted 2/8/2007 8:43 PM (#237430 - in reply to #234076)
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Location: Green Bay, WI
Thanks Shep. Ordered 2 online from R&H. Haven't found the extensions advertised anywhere but I would think R&H could get them if I need them.
Bob

Edited by bobski 2/8/2007 9:10 PM
bobski
Posted 2/8/2007 9:47 PM (#237478 - in reply to #234076)
Subject: RE: Rod Holders




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Location: Green Bay, WI
After looking at the movie closer on the Folbe website I have to ask... will a standard musky rod with the finger hook under the reel seat fit in this thing or does it have to be a trolling rod?