Very new
Andy
Posted 1/15/2007 10:16 AM (#232249)
Subject: Very new


Well I'm gonna try musky fishin this yr,I've bought 3 rods and 3 new 6500 ABU reels, I'm a little confused about what lures and bucktails to purchase.I've bought the book"Complete guide to musky hunting" but all these colors and different size lures has me stumped.I live in Indiana and I'm planning to head up to Webster early in the spring,and then the annual trip "North" with the family,we're goin to Moose lake (Hayward area). And just need a little coaching. I'm on a tight budget,(the rods were used and the 6500's were on sale @ walmart for 40 bones) What lures should i definitly have in my box? HELP
AWH
Posted 1/15/2007 10:39 AM (#232258 - in reply to #232249)
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Posts: 1243


Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
Andy,

Welcome to the site! I don't have any experience on the waters you're looking to fish. But just a suggestion...if you register and log in when you post, my guess is that you'll receive some suggestions from people either with an email or a PM that don't want to post on the board for everyone to see.

If you're just starting out and don't have any lures at the moment, my suggestion would be to start out pretty basic. Get yourself a couple of bucktails, crank bait, top water, plastics, jerkbaits. No need to go over board on baits when you're starting out. Find out what you like to throw and what you have confidence in and build your tackle arsenal from there.

Make sure you buy top quality terminal tackle...line and leaders. Quality release tools are a must. Quality net, pliers, hook cutters, etc. Although you don't need to go overboard on the tackle when you're starting out, you want to be prepared for anything when it comes to being able to handle the fish when it gets to the boat.

Aaron
Webguy
Posted 1/15/2007 10:59 AM (#232264 - in reply to #232249)
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Vince Weirick
Posted 1/15/2007 11:27 AM (#232267 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 1060


Location: Palm Coast, FL
The new line of lifelike lures by dunwright, tuff shad, fuzzy duzzit, bull dawg, pacemaker, double bladed bucktail, burt, 10" jake. Those are just a few that should get you going.
musky-skunk
Posted 1/15/2007 5:04 PM (#232350 - in reply to #232249)
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The absolute basics in my opinion are a black and nickel bucktail, Giant Jackpot (any color), suick (any color), 8" crane (sucker, silver flash), prop bait, and some kind of plastic such as a 9" bulldawg. These baits aren't necessarily all baits I use in chasing big fish but more for catching fish of any size. I'd also like to see an orange or white manta/hellhound on this list. I've never fished moose but have hit Sissibagama and Teal in the Hayward area and think it is a good area to try and catch your first fish. As mentioned before if you become a member you can PM or email folks on this site and many would be more than happy to help a guy out.
semper esox
Posted 1/15/2007 6:13 PM (#232371 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




Posts: 217


Location: ladysmith, wi
i fish moose several times a yr, i have found bucktails with orange blades worked best for me,moose is a good lake, if you still havent caught one by the time you head north u also could try tigercat flowage, just down the road from moose, no monster fish in tigercat but i did have a 7 fish day there last yr biggest being 41'' .
Reelwise
Posted 1/16/2007 4:08 AM (#232430 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




Posts: 1636


If you don't have one yet, get a topraider. Its the perfect topwater to start out using. Easy to fish, easy to cast, you can see where it lands, and it catches fish. Its not the best early season lure, so pick up a couple ratltraps and twitch baits for the spring For the summer, you can't go wrong with a Mepps marabou. Webster is the best lake I know of for someone to get started on. Good luck this season and catch some fatties!

Edited by Reelwise 1/16/2007 4:09 AM
mikie
Posted 1/16/2007 8:03 AM (#232442 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Location: Athens, Ohio
Best thing I'd suggest is to hire a guide for a day who is familiar with those waters. See what's in his tackle box and what he puts on, and constantly ask "why?" It will be time and money well spent for you. m
sweetyjo41801
Posted 1/16/2007 11:06 AM (#232478 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




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Thanks fellas,as you can see i had already registered, Just didn't remember. Was lookin at the TOP RAIDERS @ gander mountain,should had picked one up,oh well it just means i get to go back. I've already got the bug and i haven't even been musky huntin yet.
muskyboy
Posted 1/16/2007 12:07 PM (#232492 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new


Good luck and have fun. Just get out and fish, catch a few, and expand from there. Whatever questions you have about tackle, lures, and presentations can be answered right here
Dacron + Dip
Posted 1/16/2007 12:19 PM (#232497 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new


TopRaider's a great bait for action from all kinds of fish. It'll get beat up quick, fish eat them. Big bass, pike and muskies. You'll develop confidence in it quickly and throw it a lot. Easy to use, also.
sweetyjo41801
Posted 1/16/2007 1:26 PM (#232509 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




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OK, I'm gonna ask this, (and I'm sure to get several answers and i know its been covered prolly a million times) ABU 6500 C3's what type and poundage line would you fine folks recommend?
AWH
Posted 1/16/2007 1:43 PM (#232511 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
Personally, I'd go with 80 pound. I used to run with 50 pound test when I started out and didn't think I would ever go higher, I didn't see the point. Now I'd never go back to 50. I really don't notice the difference in how it handles and it's nice to have the added strength. Due to the slightly thicker line diameter, it's also easier to dig out backlashes than the thinner diameter line. And unfortunately, backlashes happen. As far as which brand to go with...it's all a matter of opinion. But Power Pro, Tuf Line, Spiderwire Stealth, Cortland Spectron and Masterbraid...they're all good. I've used Tuf Line for 10 years without any problems.

On another note, check your private messages (found near the top of your screen). I sent you some more information there.

Aaron
sweetyjo41801
Posted 1/16/2007 8:13 PM (#232673 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




Posts: 7


Just made an order with Rollie&Helens
6" Bulldawg
Buchertail 800 Magnum
Top Raider
My wifes gonna hate me within afew months,oh well thats why we work,RIGHT??
sworrall
Posted 1/16/2007 11:36 PM (#232721 - in reply to #232673)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Take her with you, that's what I did. Sue really enjoys her time on the water, and sets the hook better than some men I know.
sworrall
Posted 1/17/2007 11:51 PM (#232928 - in reply to #232721)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
And Andy, don't forget the Creatures!
sweetyjo41801
Posted 1/18/2007 5:20 AM (#232937 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new


She don't like to fish, And what the heck is a creature?
FYGR8
Posted 1/18/2007 6:33 AM (#232941 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





I am from Hayward and would be more than happy to take you out if my schedule allows. I have one recommendation: Don't just buy a bunch of lures based on others opinions. Everyone has their own styles, likes, and dislikes. Go into it gradually and your wife will allow you a little more slack to pursue the insanity!

T.W.
I have more info that I could share, but those that are making a living of the sport would not appreciate my input.

Edited by FYGR8 1/18/2007 12:32 PM
muskyone
Posted 1/18/2007 6:35 AM (#232942 - in reply to #232937)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 1536


Location: God's Country......USA..... Western Wisconsin
Jig and plastic lizard etc = a creature. Also don't forget a couple of #5 Mepps Muskie Killers. There has been more Muskie's caugt on them than anyone can count. Black blade and black hair is a good place to start. Silver blade and black hair is another good one.
I would try 65# Tuff line for my bucktails and crankbaits and 80# for jerk baits and topwaters.

You are in the right spot here for any help that you need. Just keep asking everyone here for help and you will get more than you need for sure. Try to get to one of the Muskie first outings to share knowledge and tactics. You will learn a lot from everyone that attends. Remember that we where all "very new" at one time and needed someone to help show us the ropes. I still need help and learn a thing or two from everyone that I fish with.
Ty Sennett
Posted 1/18/2007 9:38 AM (#232962 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new


Listen to what T.W. says. You will find that you will spend money on a bait and throw it five times and never use it again. That's part of it though. That's what they make ebay for.

Every lake has a few baits that are go to baits for that lake but do not work much on other lakes. Talk to the people that fish the lake to find out what baits are good to get.

There are quite a few stumps on Moose so topwater and high running bucktails are key. I don't fish it a ton but have been out there. Get on Pastikas website also as most of the guides from Moose post there often. You bought some good baits so far.

Good luck,

Ty
sputterbug
Posted 1/18/2007 10:40 AM (#232969 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 364


Location: Kentucky
Andy,

Welcome to the insanity

Good advice so far, and I hope you enjoy the new obsession! It will test your patience, but hopefully be rewarding.

I fish Webster and N. WI sometimes. If you PM or e-mail me with your address, I'll be glad to send you some decent baits that are gathering dust in my basement. Heck, most of us just trade or buy them at swap meets, moving them from table to table. Let's help out a newbie



Vince Weirick
Posted 1/18/2007 12:02 PM (#232979 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





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Location: Palm Coast, FL
Andy,

Also the Webster Lake Musky Club is having our annual swap meet on Feb. 3rd. Check it out on our website http://www.websterlakemuskyclub.org
madmusky
Posted 1/18/2007 12:26 PM (#232984 - in reply to #232979)
Subject: RE: Very new




Posts: 157


I wouldn't go to Moose w/o

a Small Pacemaker
and
a Colorado bladed Rabid Squirrel inline

As for colors you can never go wrong with black with a tad of any bright color: orange, yellow, red, or green

I like the idea of hiring a guide also, I would recommend Tanner Wildes: www.tannerwildes.com
esoxaddict
Posted 1/18/2007 12:39 PM (#232988 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





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1. Hire a guide. Listen to what they say and do what they tell you. Ask lot of questions.
2. Buying lures:

Recommendations are nice but your lead will be spinning if you try to sort them all out.

Buy a few different types of lures that will allow you to cover different depths, learn to fish them effectively, and don't worry about having everything under the sun:

You could get by with one or two each of: surface lure, a bucktail, a spinnerbait, a crankbait, a jerkbait and a soft plastic swim bait. Having every color is cool if you want to spend a fortune and collect lures. Otherwise, black is always a good start. Color is the least important thing.

Some standard lures that everyone has that have proven themselves to catch fish:

Topraider
Suick
Depth Raider
Bulldawg
Mepps Musky Killer

Most important thing:

Have fun!
archerynut36
Posted 1/18/2007 6:19 PM (#233030 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 1887


Location: syracuse indiana
yes addic is right. heck i remember when he was new a few years ago and now he i becoming a musky wiz...bill
hey if you erver want to fish let me know. i take people out with me alot. other clubmembers and newbies. no i am not a guide but i can get you started and teach you alot while in my boat......bill
archerynut36
Posted 1/18/2007 6:20 PM (#233032 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 1887


Location: syracuse indiana
also becomming a club member is good too. you can learn alot from the other members..
and on musky first also u can get answers to any question here...bill
djwilliams
Posted 1/18/2007 6:52 PM (#233035 - in reply to #233030)
Subject: RE: Very new




Posts: 793


Location: Ames, Iowa
Check out some of the baits that others on MFirst have for sale on the buy,sell trade board. You will not spend as much $$ so quickly.
Don
sweetyjo41801
Posted 1/18/2007 7:18 PM (#233037 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




Posts: 7


Okay,I just gotta ask this, I'm lookin at some of these baits and all i keep askin myself is "How long can i throw this lure" meaning ,these things are HUGE compared to some of the baits I've thrown for EYES, PIKE, BASS. Are you fellas just plum wore out at the end of the day. hahaha amazing!!! then i see this fella throwin this lure, thats as big as an Stanely thermos
Got Esox?
Posted 1/18/2007 7:36 PM (#233039 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 350


Location: WESTERN WI
Learn the basics and apply the basic info your first year. Don't "out think" yourself when chasing these fish.
archerynut36
Posted 1/19/2007 7:20 AM (#233084 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new





Posts: 1887


Location: syracuse indiana
well actually andy. the rods that are made today make it easy to throw big baits allday. i use mostly 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 ft rods and believe me i can pound the water. you will get used to it. but it is so much easier today than in early years. when i started chasing skies i was 15 yrs old and up in wisconsin all we used at that time was pool cue's and your arms felt like rubber.. bill
sweetyjo41801
Posted 1/19/2007 4:31 PM (#233228 - in reply to #232249)
Subject: RE: Very new




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Yeah, thats kinda what i figured,ALOT has changed.