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Location: north central wisconsin | Has anyone taken one of the curly Sues for a swim yet?? I was just wondering how they work. When comparing to a BullDawg and some of the other plastics out there, I would like to know how you'd compare the action when jerking this thing. I notice it has a couple 'stabilizer' fins on the bottom, which are similar to the fins on my real fish perch which has absolutely no action when jerked. I like the looks of the curly sue, but would like to hear more about it before purchasing.
That said, I'd also like to know if anyone has had any luck adding dye to Bulldawgs. I have a few that have bleached/faded over time(particularily the old motor oil colors) and wonder what, if anything, people have used to re-add color to them.
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Location: north central wisconsin | Just thought I'd pop this up again to see if anyone checked these out at the shows. I'm about to add a curly to my collection, as suzy sucker looks so lonely hanging out with all of those dawgs downstairs, but just wanted to know what people liked about them, and how/if action differed from similarily sized Dawgs.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | RH,
Not sure if you caught the lure demo clip I did for MuskieFirst as the Chicago show or not but I had the chance to get some footage of Andy testing out the Curly Sue. I would have to say that I will be more than likely be investing more of my money in the Shack Attack lures now! I was very impressed with what I saw! The only reason why I didn't buy any Curly Sues at the Chicago show was because I heard that Andy at Shack Attack was working on getting the Formula X added to the 13' Curley Sue model. He only had the 6inch and 9inch models in the Formula X. I really like the tail action on the Curly Sues compared to the bulldawgs just because of the fact that they seem to have more action on them than a bulldawg in my opinion. But here is the link to the clip if your interested.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=31...
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Location: north central wisconsin | Thanks!!! That, is what I was looking for. I'll check it out now. |
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| I'd like to see more footage or poolside demo of the curly sue worked more like a bulldawg than a swimbaits, do they "glide" side to side nicely like bulldawgs? |
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Location: Williamstown, WV | They look good but they seem to have a subtle action. To me it just looks like a bigger storm swimbait but I've never seen one in person so I'm probably wrong. (only seen video footage) I will be getting one of those LifeLike Lures in a day or two (hopefully, come on mailman!!!)and the thing that sold me was the video of the 12 inch pike on their website. Have you seen that thing? Now that is some crazy action. I believe the LifeLike will be the hot lure this year because of it's incredible action but time will tell.
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| You can get the Curly Sue to dart in various different directions by adding some sharp jerks. This could not be seen in this pool demo as I had to slow the retrieve down so that the camera could follow the lure and get it in frame. By messing around with the placement of the belly trebles you can get the baits to dive down, sideways or a mixture of both. As with all lures, its a case of trying different things to find what you or ultimately what the fish like.
Hey Reef Hawg, if you buy a Curly Sue and you are not happy with the action, let me know and I will refund your money and you can keep the bait. That’s how confident I am about my products.
Andy
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Location: St. John, Indiana | is the curly sue in stores yet? |
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| Thorne Bros. has a decent supply right now. Steve |
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Location: St. John, Indiana | on their website?
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| I assume we all are aware of the toughness of Formula X. I was talking with a couple guides about this product. Admittedly, both are Musky Innovations pro-staffers, but they still had a point to make about the toughness of a rubber bait. Basically, is it too tough? When you set the hook with a Dawg, the bait gets ripped, but it also allows for movement which allows the hooks to move and find flesh. Maybe the Dawg gets chewed up, but with a good set, the fish is in the boat. What happens when a big fish clamps down and the hooks don't move because the bait is too tough? Can a rubber bait be too tough? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | No. Formula X is VERY pliable, and moves easily, watch the videos and handle one for yourself. Hook ups shouldn't be an issue. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion |
Dude,
The Formula X baits have more give and movement than standard rubber baits,, therefore the hooks WILL embed into the fishes mouth, IF you set the hook with some authority!!
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Another thing that Andy with Shack Attack has done with his baits is created an external rigging system to improve with hook ups. As others stated, hook ups shouldn't be an issue.
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| I talked to Andy for quite a while on Friday and was impressed with his baits. The external rigging system is so the baits don't get ripped up by the through wire construction of most plastic baits when a fish shakes his head. The new formula X is much more pliable than the other plastics. It has been available in bass baits for some time. Andy and Double M did say to keep formula X baits away from other baits as they will degrade each other. Formula X isn't oil based according to Andy.
Question : If it isn't oil based, I assume it is water based and if this is correct will the baits be damaged by freezing temps.? |
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Location: Davenport, IA | The curly sue could easily be a better hooking bait than the dawg due to the plastic. The formula x is a lot softer...it moves more easily. |
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Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana | In my experience with the Suzy Sucker and the external rigging system, I found that the bait is going to last way longer than a bulldawg. I also like how the formula x feels, it is going to last way longer than the regular plastic. I love the suzy sucker, and it is going to be the first bait that i throw. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | I appreciate all of the responses!! Andy, that is a heck of a promise, and one I'll take you up on, though I can assure you I wouldn't ask for my money back for it. I am sure it works as designed. I was just interested in hearing about the action and how it compares to like lures. Last year I was anticipating the real fish perch, and really didn't like the action for anything other than a steady retreive. Sounds like the curly does some darting(as seen on the vid as well). Now, are the sizes comparable to the Dawg sizes ie measured with the tail extended? I just got a suzy sucker in the mail in a trade, and do have to admit that I like the external rigging. Loos like it will do a few things for me, as mentioned in earlier posts. Thanks!!
Andy, do you give out your email addy?
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| The external hook rigging is pretty sweet. Haven't thrown it much but was able to get out on a body of water for a brief period of time this past weekend, took two casts with the shallow model and WHAM. When the fish approached the boat I noticed the hooking system worked perfectly. The fish was chewing on hook only and after inspecting the bait later the only teeth marks appeared to be from the initial strike, and there was minimal damage at that.
One concern I had however, if the heavy plastic is shaking around outside of the fish's mouth doesn't that provide leverage for the fish to shake the hooks? |
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| The measurement of the Curly Sue’s is with out the curly tail. It’s basically based on the paddle tail sized bait. It keeps it simple that way. The tail on the 9” Curly Sue is actually 9” long and will stretch to 43”.
I had one other person mention that they think the weight of the bait could lever the hook from the mouth. My view is that the harder the fish shakes it head, then the more the hook is driven in by the centrifugal force from the weight of the lure and less likely to throw the hooks. I have never had anyone mention thrown hooks due to the design of the external rigging system.
My email address is: [email protected]
Andy
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| Andy,
I'm curious about something else you mentioned in this thread. Since most of us don't have access to open water, can you describe where you place the hooks to make it dart here and there? |
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Plastics?? Curly Sue, Dawgs, etc.