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| Hey all,
I just wanted to hear some of your ideas for future topics in muskie fishing articles? Of course it has become increasingly difficult for writers to come up with subject matter, so get your creative juices flowing and give your thoughts and opinions on what would be interesting to read about. I figured that this may be one of the best forums to ask this question to.
Just thought this might be fun for some. I know I am interested to hear peoples answers.
Thanks,
Lee Tauchen
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Location: Athens, Ohio | I may be old fashioned, but I'm still a sucker for a BIG fish story. m | |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Lee, the best articals are ones that people can use when they go fishing. I know its hard to write articals that spell out all the details. But this is the ones people can read and get pumped up for the real experiance. Take Madison fishing and expain what the hot times are and what the hot baits are at that time. This will piss some off and get lots of readers interested. Most will not hit the lake and others will be pumped to try the tips. If they score, you will be remembered for the advice and you will hear from them at the shows and from e-mails. People will give you the thanks for the advice.
Take the big Millie lac's pond for example. Huge body of water and plenty of great patterns that come and go through the season. Most of the hot well known patterns could be explained in an artical with some detail. With the hype going strong on that pond this would be a great artical to submit. Lots of area and spots to fish and an artical on that would generate some interest. Maybe some tips on night fishing patterns, baits and times they are hot. This would be great info and for most well known that already hit that pattern. But for most it would be something they might like to try with a guide or experianced fisherman. How about the trolling bite that works on Milli lacs in July but is not used by most. Well maybe the pontoon guy. LOL
Anyway, the best articals are the ones you can't wait to try after you read them. I would push for the Summer articals because most of the muskie magizines are already loaded with Spring articals. I know EA has over 20 submitted so far for the Spring issue. I have had numerous e-mails and storys from readers that read the local articals I write and thank me for the tips and patterns. I don't give up baits or spots, just types of spots and the types of baits to use. You don't have to give up exact stuff.
Say you target deep weed edges with crankbaits. Ok, what type of weeds and how deep do your baits work. How about the size of the bait and is it jointed or straight.
Ok, say your targeting the inside edges. Do you fish from the inside out or outside in or both. What type of baits and speed?
I know I am rambling but thats what I would like to read about, not fish storys !!!!
Write about what people would like to relate to and maybe try sometime. People like to read and learn about something. Nothing worse than reading a magazine and tossing it because it's all about fish storys, not about how to catch more muskies.
Sorry Mikie I just finished this and see you want to hear Big fish storys. I had to add this.
We all like big fish storys but they are already told on the internet web sites, chats, threads, shows, etc. Fishermen want to learn, learn and learn some more. Now if all the details are included in the fish storys I am all for that. Locations, baits used, weather, time of catch, etc. That will usually not come with the artical. Leave out the big fish and give me some solid details on working patterns and where they work and I will be a happy reader.
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| Mikes Extreme - 12/12/2006 6:24 PM
Lee, the best articals are ones that people can use when they go fishing. I know its hard to write articals that spell out all the details. But this is the ones people can read and get pumped up for the real experiance. Take Madison fishing and expain what the hot times are and what the hot baits are at that time. This will piss some off and get lots of readers interested. Most will not hit the lake and others will be pumped to try the tips. If they score, you will be remembered for the advice and you will hear from them at the shows and from e-mails. People will give you the thanks for the advice.
Take the big Millie lac's pond for example. Huge body of water and plenty of great patterns that come and go through the season. Most of the hot well known patterns could be explained in an artical with some detail. With the hype going strong on that pond this would be a great artical to submit. Lots of area and spots to fish and an artical on that would generate some interest. Maybe some tips on night fishing patterns, baits and times they are hot. This would be great info and for most well known that already hit that pattern. But for most it would be something they might like to try with a guide or experianced fisherman. How about the trolling bite that works on Milli lacs in July but is not used by most. Well maybe the pontoon guy. LOL
Anyway, the best articals are the ones you can't wait to try after you read them. I would push for the Summer articals because most of the muskie magizines are already loaded with Spring articals. I know EA has over 20 submitted so far for the Spring issue. I have had numerous e-mails and storys from readers that read the local articals I write and thank me for the tips and patterns. I don't give up baits or spots, just types of spots and the types of baits to use. You don't have to give up exact stuff.
Say you target deep weed edges with crankbaits. Ok, what type of weeds and how deep do your baits work. How about the size of the bait and is it jointed or straight.
Ok, say your targeting the inside edges. Do you fish from the inside out or outside in or both. What type of baits and speed?
I know I am rambling but thats what I would like to read about, not fish storys !!!!
Write about what people would like to relate to and maybe try sometime. People like to read and learn about something. Nothing worse than reading a magazine and tossing it because it's all about fish storys, not about how to catch more muskies.
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| Depends on when it will be published. I think alot of spring articals miss a good protion of the readers due to where they live. For instance last year everything I read was for much colder water temps than we have on our opener. And then the next issue was for full on summer paterns. I'm probably not the only one, but I'd like to hear more about presentation for water temps 50-60 and rising instead of reading about 40-50 and then 65-75. kind of a big gap.
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| hi Lee,
i thought your series of topwater tuning articles was one of the best things in a long time - because (as Koepp said above) it was useful on the water. i went out and played around with the different tricks you suggested. i've got a better "ear" for topwaters since reading and applying the stuff in your article.
even beyond that, it was a unique thing to write about. you followed it up with that topwater tuning tank at the winter sport shows and you were willing to show people what you wrote about. great stuff.
another good example is Donnie Hunt's recent article on cast angles and throwing parallel to structure. it wasn't something completely new (because there is nothing truly new), but it was presented in a way that will make it very easy for many people to remember and apply out on the water next year. that's what made it a good article.
are there some other techniques that you're particularly proud to have in your arsenal? something about boat control or retrieve style that you could break down for people?
what about pike fishing? you do a bit of that in Wisconsin early in the year and EA could use somebody besides Penny to write good stuff about pike.
everybody and their brother is throwing the big double bucktails, but there doesn't seem to be anybody writing about it. when's the right time to go big with them vs going small like Buechner and Hammernick did to win the Mille Lacs MMTT? how do you go about deciding to keep ripping that same mag dawg vs slow twitching a minnowbait? i'd be willing to bet that you've got a pretty good bait selection sense, something that most of us could use some help with at times.
anyway, my theme is application and skill building.
and big fish stories.
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Location: north central wisconsin | Would like to hear more about the guys using big (relatively)silent rubber critters at night. The wheres(depths, types of structure), whens(time of year, and if it is effective in fall and summer alike), whats(regular or shallow Dawgs?, eels? other types of plastics used at night) and whys(reason rubber chosen over a spinner, topwater or crank). Other wheres(not particular lakes, but whether individuals have had equal success in MN, Canada, and smaller to mid-sized WI or other waters within muskydom). I have been toying with this as I get more tuned into tossing rubber(albeit late in the game), and it is one topics that I feel I could learn a few nuances through a good reading, and shrink the learning curve.
While I am thinking about it, a few tips as to how fellas troll and 'move along' structure with the outboard with these same plastics during spring sumer and fall(more interested in the cooler periods) would be great. Maybe just an article on plastic use alternatives. I know that I was in a couple PMTT events this summer that were either won or placed in using these trolled plastic techniques. I'd love to hear how Greg Thomas modified his dawg(if it was in fact modified) this fall to maintain the speed and depth required to remain on the structure he was following as we watched them bag a good fish in the championship, and how Steckal and Machton trolled their way to the win on my home water here this spring.
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| Row Trolling Mille Lacs,,especially the mud flats-7 mile etc,,somebody research that 
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| Early season Mille Lacs... Why is it so difficult and what are some strategies you use to put fish in the boat during the month of June??? Esox Angler uses specific bodies of water to write articles about, Musky Hunter seems to use general information and does not talk about specific bodies of water.. Wish MH authors would write more about specific bodies of water.. Each month feature a MN and WI lake, seasonal patterns, etc... | |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Lambeau made a good point.... APPLICATION and Skill Building. Combine that thought with Reef Hawg's example... and you got yourself a top notch article for any publication.
I think articles that get at the THOUGHT PROCESS are far better than articles that cater to the "Monkey see, monkey do" type of application. Details, details, details. Don't be afraid to SPECULATE on the WHY's. Seems a lot of very ver very good anglers are AFRAID to toss out an IDEA for fear of criticism.... or perhaps editors are afraid to publish it too?
Take the Big Double #10 bucktails for example. Or the beloved bulldawg. No crap those lures catch fish.... but only for people that understand when, where, and most importantly... WHY those are the baits to be throwing. Yah... the Self Fulfilling Prophecy will make you a hero if you throw those baits day and night.... and you will eventually score. But.... teaching people how to apply these tools to their best advantage is far better than just pointing out the tools they can use.
So... any article that hits upon the basics yet provides extreme detail are what I'm looking for. Editors should like them because you can start simple for the beginners but also toss in some goodies for the seasoned vets looking for that one little nugget to help improve their game. Take boat control for example. For some... that might just mean keeping your boat under control. For others it might mean using it to achieve the best cast angle for the "spot on the spot". And what tools are you using to achieve that boat control? Trolling motor tricks. GPS. Playing the wind. Etc. Etc. Its the finer details that can make the difference... and are often lacking in many of today's magazine articles. And not to take a jab at magazines.... but that is why I enjoy these message board forums. You can always ASK for more detail and usually get it. With articles you need to anticipate any and all questions that could be asked by both beginners and experts alike.... and try to answer them without writing a book. Thus, general topics are too large to address in a magazine article, in my opinion, and more specific and detailed topics should be selected.
One topic I'd like to hear more about from many different authors is the decision making process used to determine whether to SPEED UP or SLOW DOWN. Basically, when to Run&Gun and when to Spot Camp. Both options can excel on the same day on the same water..... so what makes you choose one over the other? For many anglers.... this is the toughest decision to make for the day.... and it ties into boat control, lure selection, spot selection, and everything else. | |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | I dunno, Mike, I learned quite a bit from the article you wrote earlier in the year about your muskie triple-header!
Some great ideas here, though. m | |
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| Just a general comment:
I'd like to see articles that focus a little less on how and a little more on why. I want to become a more knowledgable angler, but not simply "here's what you do when and how" but "here is why this is effective", because if you understand why you can apply that knowledge in other situations. | |
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| actually Id like to see some issues addressed maybe In editorial sections of major mag's
An article condeming the practice of 'tarketing" muskies before the season opens this is a problem here in Minn and an article in a major publication might go along way in educating and bringing peer presure on this practice, 'peer" pressure isnt always a negative.
An article on the 'positives' of milfoil,,thats right "positives"!!! the Twin citys fisherie Tonka,White Bear,Indy, etc have excellent fishing for muskies and Bass in fact the B.A.S.S. pros have said they feel Tonka is the best Bass lake in the country,,Its not all Leech Lakle genetics in Tonka that wouldnt explain the great bass fishing,,An article on how milfoil is a benefit especially in lakes close to highly populated urban areas I think would be of value | |
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Location: Minnesota | How to catch muskies if you suck at fishing!
Not trying to be funny but, I think it would be a good article and actually funny to read. It may hit home to a lot of people who do not realize teh time:catch ratio is high and many times it is 10 hrs plus for some.
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| Great ideas guys! Keep them coming. I knew that some of you would run with this. I will be printing this out for future reference.
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Location: Black Creek, WI | esoxaddict - 12/13/2006 9:17 AM
Just a general comment:
I'd like to see articles that focus a little less on how and a little more on why. I want to become a more knowledgable angler, but not simply "here's what you do when and how" but "here is why this is effective", because if you understand why you can apply that knowledge in other situations.
I agree.... but the problem with that concept is it begs for SPECULATION. Nobody really knows WHY stuff works.... and unless you are DougJ, DickP, or some other Musky Icon.... its taboo to speculate WHY something might work in a magazine article. Seems THEORY is not readily published these days.... and the magazines prefer more FACTUAL type stuff. You know... hey... this works... and I can prove it with a picture type of deal. But as soon as someone tries to SPECULATE on WHY that "something" works..... it gets shot down.... unless you have the "reputation" to pull it off. The irony with that is that most people with the "reputation" are less willing to take the RISK of tossing out those speculative ideas for fear of criticism. Those ideas are kept to themselves and only discussed with close friends.... or network of trusted anglers.
Take the "baitfish connection" for example. That is just a theory.... and not proven. But... somewhere... somehow... it crossed over from someone's THEORY to being readily accepted as something ALMOST factual. My guess.... and yah I"m speculating here.... is that it took someone "famous" to say it before other, less-seasoned authors could reference the "baitfish connection". And now the baitfish thing has almost fallen victim to the "monkey see, monkey do" concept. Less experienced anglers may get confused and feel they MUST see baitfish on their graphs for a spot to be productive. Big mistake.... in my humble opinion.... and a direct result of what gets published these days.
Sorry for the side tangent, Lee.... but I feel its a vital aspect to your question. Even if you get some good topics to write about.... its HOW you/others write about them that I'd like to see begin to change. Speculating WHY something works is much more valuable to me than just reading WHAT has worked for others..... especially if its something unique that may be met with some skepticism or a complicated subject that may not be easily understood at first. | |
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| You are right, Jlong -- One has to speculate when discussing animal behavior, especially when it's an elusive predatory fish.
But that speculation, that uncharted territory, that's the future! The "I wonder why's" of today are the knowledge of tomorrow. A lot of people say there's nothing new to be discovered or written about. In terms of how, when, where, and with what, I'd have to agree. But when you start exploring why? That's when we discover new things. Nobody really knows until a bunch of people start thinking about why, trying to figure out why, sharing ideas about why, and pretty soon you get accepted theories that can be supported by collective experience...
Rambling, sorry.
Just because it is speculation doesn't mean it doesn't have merit. Just because it is speculation doesn't mean that person hasn't discovered something that is going to change the future of musky fishing.
I'd rather listen to speculation and find out later that whoever it was had it backwards than have people afraid to speculate.
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| The articles I always re-read are the ones like "Just how big was that Musky?" by Joe B and "The Legend of Ol' Scar Face" also by Joe B.
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| as long as its not another use a spinnerbait in the slop or bucktails are where its at article by Joe B, I will be fine with that.
I too like the legendary stories, but would further improve my PMA through articles like the one done on Lateral Line by Dr. Gene Smith, that was a huge eye opener when it came to fishing in some of the muddiest looking water and whacking multiple fish. Its articles like that, that will give a guy hope that he doesnt have to worry about what bait he's using, as long as youre in the right area of where the fish are. they will find anything. and I mean anything.
I dont like reading articles of certain patterns, why? cause the biggest part of the key to make it work is usually left out. I know sometimes you have to finish the homework on your own, but, if you don't have time to go out and chase open water fatties with topwater baits, why bother trying something that could rob you of your time on the water? If these discoveries were more well covered, then they might be worth my time. I usually work the fish that I know are there cause I dont have the luxury of time to try new stuff every time I go out. Explaining the "why" behind some of these articles would really open it up for a lot of guys who struggle with getting new things to work. Most guys try it once, and it ends up being at the wrong time, wrong area, or what have you, and they never try it again because, well, it sucked. Most like anyone I know, if you try something once, and it shows you results, you will stick it out for many outings to come, but, try it once, and it doesn't happen, back to the community spots. | |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | esoxaddict - 12/13/2006 12:32 PM
Just because it is speculation doesn't mean it doesn't have merit. Just because it is speculation doesn't mean that person hasn't discovered something that is going to change the future of musky fishing.
I'd rather listen to speculation and find out later that whoever it was had it backwards than have people afraid to speculate.
I agree with ya EA!!! Unfortunately, that type of speculation is just too big of a risk for reputeable anglers to take..... the risk of an author initially getting it wrong, as that COULD potentially hurt their credibility. Same goes for the editors.... many are too afraid to take the risk of publishing something "unproven". The question I have is..... HOW CAN WE GET THEM PAST THAT?
I get criticized all the time for my ramblings on the internet. Some people truly think I'm a whacko because of it too. But... at least I'm not afraid to ask questions..... and speculate a little.... well.... A LOT (heh heh). I'd like to see more authors and editors take that same risk. The guys we truly want to hear from (read) are certainly doing a lot of experimentation.... and much of that is based on speculation. If that is what they are doing in the real world.... why can't they (authors/editors) publish those IDEAS?
Does anyone remember the article that DickP and Pete Maina did for EA a few years ago regarding WIND? Pete was the WHAT guy. He wrote WHAT works for him and left it at that. DickP wrote WHY he felt the wind was an asset. Trial&Error (Pete) vs. Prediction (DickP). I'd like to see more of that type of stuff.... either from a SINGLE author or the same format as the Pete/Dick article. Here is WHAT worked for me.... and here is WHY I think it worked.
Anyway... now you guys know why I haven't written an article in awhile. I have editor issues (hahaahahahaha). Lee... I hope you can overcome that hurdle.  | |
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| esoxaddict - 12/13/2006 9:17 AM
Just a general comment:
I'd like to see articles that focus a little less on how and a little more on why. I want to become a more knowledgable angler, but not simply "here's what you do when and how" but "here is why this is effective", because if you understand why you can apply that knowledge in other situations. i agree and maybe some things that you can do to catch more musky consitantly not just a one big fish on doing something once but something that can catch musky after musky after musky. just my thoughts | |
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Location: The desert | guts.....if someone has that info I doubt they'd share it! LOL!
I'm on board with EA and JLong.....Perhaps we could start a new magazine "The Theoretical Musky Journal"
Mike
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| ...speculation is just too big of a risk for reputeable anglers to take...Same goes for the editors...many are too afraid to take the risk of publishing something "unproven". The question I have is..... HOW CAN WE GET THEM PAST THAT?
start you own magazine!
anyway, i think that's a bit of your personal agenda jason, and not necessarily an answer to the "what makes a good article?" question. i don't think it's any big secret that your speculation and hypothesizing was something that didn't translate well in editors' eyes as publishable material. it sounds a bit like there's still some leftover feelings about that?
...at least I'm not afraid to ask questions...and speculate a little...I'd like to see more authors and editors take that same risk.
perhaps the internet is the best place for that kind of WAG work.
i actually would NOT like to see that in published form. magazines do carry a certain degree of credibility and i want to know that what i'm reading about is something tried and "proven" by the person. it's a result of the one-sidedness of an article, as mentioned before it's authoritative because there's no venue for questions about what's presented.
when it comes to raw speculation, the more dynamic discussion available online or over a couple beers seems more appropriate.
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Location: The desert | Well....I guess Lambeau wont be subscribing to the "Theoretical Musky Journal".......haha! (Sorry all this studying of genetics has me going insane)
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| How to log more fishing hours and stay married at the same time.
Well, actually I'll get to write that article, but it will be from the recently divorced man's perspective.
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| WHAT?
WHY?
HOW?
I would like to see more articles that cover these three questions completely rather than focus on just WHAT with some HOW
We all have something new to learn whether we believe/like it or not. I really benefit when someone like Gregg Thomas shares what he has learned from fishing other parts of the country and using other techniques that are not traditional. I saw something unusual out East last week that I questioned but later found out it paid off in one of the biggest muskies of the season
Lee, your topwater tuning series was one of the best things published lately, so any other advice like that is always insightful. You recently had the best day anyone could have on the water short of catching a world record, so that experience certainly could be used to describe what made that day so special and how your success happened. Good luck | |
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| Well....I guess Lambeau wont be subscribing to the "Theoretical Musky Journal".......haha! (Sorry all this studying of genetics has me going insane)
lol...i just think the internet is a better place for that kind of discussion.
jlong really brings that kind of give-and-play out in this environment, and i really really enjoy it.
you can't do quite the same thing in a magazine article.
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| the funny
the goofy
the stories
the big fish
people stuff
those fish are stupid, and we're even stupider for fishing for them!! ahahah
i want the laughs
when i went with Gregg Thomas this year and last for 2 days......all we did was jag around, laugh, tell stupid stories, laugh, and bust my dad's cahonies. this year, we actually caught some fish in those 2 days, so that was a good bonus too.
personally, im tired of the why's, where's whens whatnots and cold front proposals/instructions. my last 4 months fishing have been more focused on having fun and enjoying it and the time i had with whoever was with me.
so, me, i'd like to read some funny and even inspirational stuff Lee.
Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe, throw some river/flowage junk in there too hahhahah!
Congrats on a great season man!
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Location: The desert | Mike, you are probably right. And I like that it is on here because I really dont even have the money to buy a subscription to any magazine, nor do I have time to read them due to my school work and me actually trying to learn things this year!
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Location: Black Creek, WI | lambeau - 12/13/2006 9:11 PM
lol...i just think the internet is a better place for that kind of discussion.
jlong really brings that kind of give-and-play out in this environment, and i really really enjoy it.
you can't do quite the same thing in a magazine article.
Lambeau..... I think you are correct about the internet being the better place to toss around some really wild ideas. But, WHY can't more of that flavor be added to magazine articles? I'm not suggesting people publish their Wild @ss Guesses (WAG's). There are a lot of sound theories out there catching a lot of fish for people.... but those theories are nearly impossible to ever prove or confirm.... so they go unpublished.
Take WIND again as an example. To just leave it as vague as "Use the Wind" is totally useless. Wind most certainly offers the angler opportunities.... and ATTEMPTING to understand WHY is a big part of that. It might be reduced light penetration. It might be current related. It might be moving or activating the food chain. It may offer some outstanding opportunities on the leeward side of the lake or structure (seiche, eddies, etc.). All of that stuff is speculation in respect to how it impacts muskies and musky movements. That's why I really enjoyed that Pete/DickP article. Pete discovered his "patterns" by investing a LOT of time on the water and used Trial&Error. To me... people read articles trying to SHORTEN that learning curve. Pete's part of the article offered some great starting points for those who are content with a "Monkey See, Monkey Do" approach to angling. Pete caught fish doing it this way.... so I'll try it too. OR.... you could read the other half of that article by DickP and TRY to understand WHY the wind creates opportunity.... and attempt to apply it in a way that improves your PREDICTIONS of success. Not just recognize opportunity when you stumble acrossed it.... but think ahead and predict those opportunities so you can better hunt/seek them out.
And Lambeau..... as for your assumption that I have a "personal agenda" with this subject.... YOU BET I DO. Lee recognizes that their is a need in the written publication world for something NEW or BETTER to help break out of the redundant doldrums we are starting to encounter.... and I'm hoping LEE can become that "change agent". STARTING to push the envelope with the WHY part of the equation is what I feel is a good place to begin that requested CHANGE.... albeit in a slow and disciplined manner. I personally do not feel there is any significant RISK with sharing ideas.... as long as they are clearly communicated as just that.... IDEAS and not FACT. I read Musky Hunter, Esox Angler, and any article or internet message board for just that..... IDEAS. I then decide for MYSELF which stuff to believe has merit. Magazines shouldn't be viewed as Instruction Manuals.... but rather an Idea Bank. Most articles are just one man's opinion anyway......
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Actually, they imply some sort of confirmation from the publisher, tooses... As, why would articles be rejected? Could it be lack of merit, proof (pictures), acceptance and that ugly word, EGO?
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| Skill-building articles that go into REAL details about things like how to read you lakes maps and plan a strategy, how to use your electronics - with real details about programming set-ups, etc.
I used to susbsribe to BassMaster and my favorite articles were "A day on the water with ..." where they took a pro, put them on an unknown lake and reported in sort of a diary format how they fished the lake - spots they chose and why, what baits they threw on the different spots, how wind, weather etc affected thier choices, etc. Sometimes the famous pro was successful catching fish and sometimes not, but the learning / value in the articles was in how they approached the day. I learned an aweful lot from those articles.
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Location: north central wisconsin | Beleive it or not, much of what some of the big 'names' write is a based or was based on a once WAG as well. Many of the articles I read are based on one weekends success, or one days' success. I often question why an article need be written about a tactic or pattern that produced just once for an individual, or very rarely, but I still read it knowing it could come into play at some point. WAG's are what I live on much of the time, and it is they, that get me to the end point I desire on alot of bad days. We can use science to tell us why the wind works, why turnover pushes fish here or there, or why fish use a shallow flat in the middle of August with temps in the high 70's. After debunking the hard rules, it is time to break out the WAG's(thanks for the term j), and go with it, and simply beleive. Maybe an entire article written about some of your/our WAG's..?...
At any rate, I am a bit bored with blatent advertisement by some of the once fine contributors, and vannila filling much of the rest. Again, I read it and always pick something up in each issue. Also, my definition of vannilla might be groundbreaking material for some. There needs to be basic articles in each issue, but I feel there is room for some of these BST works. I feel Lee has asked a great question. What do people want?? It is hard to come up with new material no doubt(there isn't alot of it anymore). Go out on a limb and write what works for you, and why you feel it works. In fact, it is always why we 'think' it works. We never really truly 'know' the whys... do we?? | |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Reef Hawg - 12/14/2006 10:18 AM
What do people want?? It is hard to come up with new material no doubt(there isn't alot of it anymore). Go out on a limb and write what works for you, and why you feel it works. In fact, it is always why we 'think' it works. We never really truly 'know' the whys... do we??
Well.... some people need to be told WHAT to do. And that is fine.... and they are probably the people completely satisfied with today's publications.
Versatility is a BUZZ word lately. Its OK to publish articles suggesting an angler needs to be VERSATILE. Well... sometimes to be versatile you either need to run on just what Reef Hawg suggests.... what you THINK might work. Sometimes you may run after a Wild @ass Guess or perhaps you may concoct some sort of "theory" that seems to have some merit. Both can work.... and both are simply IDEAS.
Anyway.... I am now beating a dead horse on this issue.
And I think I got MY opinion out in the open.... and I'm intelligent enough to recognize and respect that there will most certianly be differing opinions out there.
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| Even if someone has a WAG as to why something works that suits me fine. Hearing someone say; "I don't know, it just works..." isn't satisfying enough for me. Even if it is something ridiculous that is given for an explanation that I might not agree with I'm all for learning/considering that sort of stuff.
I like those articles where you feel the need to re-read them a few times to absorb it even deeper. A fair amount of stuff we see now you can just pick up at a newstand, skim the pages, and you'll be set to go. For the life of me I can only recall specific things from maybe 5 articles in MHM or EA over the past 3-4 years and those are from the articles that really challenged me to think. Those are the kinds that get the juices flowing on how to adapt a certain tactic or idea to your home water. It doesn't tell me WHAT to do, but instead leaves it up to me to envision the hows and whys and leaves it up to me to apply them.
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Location: Montreal, Que. Canada | Lee
How about a Bucktail/spinnerbait edition with retrieves of your "Topwater tuning" articles. To tuff to bring something new to the table?
David
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| Lee,
MNSteveH hit it pretty close.
I'd like to read a story about a guide taking clients on the water one day. What's he thinking, why does he start here or there, when to run/gun or slow down....give us rookies and amateurs the thought process. It can be fiction or non-fiction. Am I trying to get a guided trip without the cost? You bet I am! (except for the subscription cost)
Awesome triple there last month. I am in awe.
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| I'm not real good at keeping records. I would like to see a small article on how some of the guides keep track of fish. What you include in your records, format etc.
Thanks
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| five worst days of the year and your five best days of the year
What were the conditions (time of year , baits being throw, local weather, moon phase, water temps, barametric pressure, thoughts on why the fish were off or on and how many beers were drank the night before ) | |
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| 100% with ulbian, very well put. | |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Sponger,
Box turtles make more sense than some of the stuff I've seen....Actually had one for years, cool pet but REALLY tough to train.
Hey guys, remember that there are not a ton of highly qualified authors out there in the Muskie world. Those who decide to write to make a living had better have another job.
Magazines with specific focus and strict regional attraction don't pay much for an article. They can't, the money just isn't there. As a result, the writing is done for the most part by guides, tackle builders, and others interested in forwarding their careers. That WILL shine through, there's simply no avoiding it.
That said, to answer Lee's question, I'd like to see articles well written with the basics of 'Journalism 101' adhered to at least in some recognizable form. Simply put, I enjoy well written pieces despite the fact the content may not be all that incredible. Well written works go a long way toward adding journalistic credibility to a magazine, and a long way towards subscriptions. Editing and re-writes are tough, time consuming, and a pain, but really pay off in the final analysis. Good to excellent photo support is also a good thing. I'm amazed at how few guides and fishing pros know how---REALLY know how--- to take a good picture, and even more amazed at the lack of understanding how important those shots can be.
Content is king, and that's a fact, but quality content really rules.
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| What about an article from a "kids" point of view, to help both fathers and kids get into muskie fishing more, and thus adding the "fishing partner's of a lifetime?" | |
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| What about an article from a "kids" point of view, to help both fathers and kids get into muskie fishing more, and thus adding the "fishing partner's of a lifetime?"
says the man who's son has been published... lol!
and in fact, that article is one of my favorites because it does offer a different point of view than the typical article written by a guide. it's one of the good things about the Muskies Inc magazine, they can take a bit more or a "risk" with who and what they publish.
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| Lambeau,
You knew where I was going...Weston has polished his writing skills as of late....but it is so cool that Muskies Inc. allows for kids to have articles published. He enjoys writing ALOT...he is taking two college writing courses, even as a senior in high school.
I am always encouraging him to write...and he does. I can honestly say this...my 2 sons are my two best fishing partners....I can't tell you how awesome a feeling it is to be fishing with these two great kids!!
Sincerely,
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Location: Madison Wi. Chain | I often enjoy stories about fish tales. It allows me to get to know the writer and helps me think about my own experiences. For example, an article about the guides favorite baits, or supertankers, or the first thing I usually turn to in EA is the blurb written by Pearson. Something about his writing that always draws me in. Also, it seems as though he is often just thinking out loud and I can identify well with his ideas. BG | |
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| I would like to see the five (or ten) best places to live if you are a muskie fisherman. The In-Fisherman magazine did this in the early 90's or thereabouts, and it was memorable. Of course, it pertained to multi-species angling instead of muskies. You would set your own criteria, and see which area met them best.
I would also like to see a strategy laid out for the 12-month pursuit of muskies, starting south and moving north, then south again. A January through December guideline with hot lakes selected (maybe based on stocking rates or year-class strength), not necessarily always legendary lakes.
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Location: Black Creek, WI | I like the "Day with a Guide Documentary"series idea..... especially if its written with the idea of getting at what's going on inside their head throughout the day. Why did you fish spot #3 that day? Sometimes the answer might simply be "Because its a good spot and we had to drive right past it in order to get to spot #4". Sometimes you fish a spot simply because its a good spot and you never drive past it. Sometimes you recognize an opportunity and attempt to predict which spot will produce. Sometimes you are exploring. Etc etc. Whoever came up with that topic idea.... ITS A GOOD ONE, in my opinion.
Other topics I'd take the time to read:
1. Soft Plastics. When do they have an advantage over other lures.
2. Soft Plastics. When are they simply the "Self Fulfilling Prophecy" and when are they essential?
3. Soft Plastics in the slop. Where, when, why, and HOW.
4. Finesse vs. Speed. How do you choose?
5. Developing a Pre-game Strategy.
6. Adjusting your strategy DURING the game.
7. Prediction Power. How to recognize "windows" of opportunty.
8. "Spot on the spot". How to find them. How to master them.
9. Fighting BIG Fish. Once you hook up, how do you get them into the net?
10. Boat Position. Where should your boat be, and how do you keep it there.
I'd like to see a dozen different authors write these same articles... and then compare their OPINIONS and SPECULATION. | |
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| Look at how the Bassmasters magazine is setup.Lee you are a tournament fisherman look at all the info one gets from the bassmasters mag covering all the tournaments in an issue.If you need a magazne to get an idea I will send you and old one.I am sorry for bringing up a four letter word(Bass)on this site.Bill
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| Hey everyone,
I must say I am impressed with all of your ideas! I was leary of posting this question for unknown reasons but, I am glad I did. I have already made a copy of the responces and will keep it for future reference.
I'm sure that I am not the only person reading this that will take this to heart. So thanks again and feel free to post a couple more. They have been helpful.
For you Mr. Long, man you have got some time to think. Nice job.
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Location: Hugo, MN | Things I like to see in an article which are really few and far between are diagrams of spots must be the marine in me but when I read a story about hitting an inside edge with rocks adjacent I'd like to see a diagram of what the author is talking about. Which way are you approaching the spot how are you tossing you baits, etc.
Occasionally I'd also like to see an article written at a novice level. I understand many of the terms and techniques that are thrown about but I didn't when I started once in a while I'd like to see someone explain in painstaking detail what they mean by "start by ripping Bull Dawgs at the weed edge".
Perhaps an article on how to be more efficient in tough spots how do you successfully throw a Bull Dawg in slop and get it back to the boat How do you throw anything in slop and retrieve the lure without it fouling, etc.
Just my 2 cents. Great topic and I hope authors have taken the time to read all of the great ideas here.
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| OK, Lee, here's one more......how the heck do you perform a decent figure 8 when the weeds are near or at the surface? I got tangled up in the weeds figure 8ing a couple big ones on LOTW in Sept....AAARRRGGGG.....you work so hard to raise a fish and then screw it up at the boat.....AAAARRRRGGGGG....pretty easy to do a decent 8 in open water.
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What muskie articles would you want to read?