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| Im recently new to musky fishing and this year I caught my fish on topwaters bucktails and crankbaits I rarely threw gliders? What is the general rule on when to throw them what are some of the glider you guys use and have success with? I have thrown phantoms and have only caught pike on them any and all help would be awesome thanks |
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| I would say Irarely threw them because the other baits were producing fish and I had no confidence in any of the gliders I threw I guess all it takes is one fish but as for now still have none |
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Location: lansing, il | with a million gliders out there, everyone has thier favs but mine are...this is not in order, but i am quite partial to my cobbs, they are considered members of my family!!
cobbs crazy shad countdown
hellhounds
bikinibait turmoils
musky snax
eze glider (actually more of a slow twitch bait for me)
squirrlly phantoms
when i slower presentation is needed i go to them or when ive found fish and know where they are and want to change up presentation.
Edited by muskihntr 12/8/2006 7:43 PM
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| If you are not seeing fish when fishing with your usual baits that are catching fish, thats a good time to mess around with a different presentation. If fish are more sluggish or just not responding to a straight retrieve. You need to try something different. sometimes that is the only thing we can get a fish to move on.
I won't get into the hooking percentages with these baits due to past arguments about it, but, they will show you fish if you give them the time of day.
I have had success with phantoms, and sliders, but I would lean my success more towards stuff like suicks that walk the dog and hang, triple D's, I've had minimal action on hellhounds, but know people who kick butt on them. You just gotta buy a couple, and play around, find one you like, and learn the ins and outs of working that particular lure.
they will show you lots of fish if you show them a fair amount of time. Just like any other bait out there.
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Location: Marshfield, WI | My favorites are jerkos, phantoms, and hellhounds. I also like squirkos but sometimes they can be tricky to get them to glide correctly. I'll throw them anytime. Only time I haven't caught a fish on a glider is at night, unless you count a weagle as a glider because I have caught one musky at night on a weagle. One trick for gliders is to give them a few quick jerks and then let it pause.
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| Thanks for all the tips and help |
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| Where can I buy a bikini bait turmoil?? and what would be a good color? |
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Location: lansing, il | http://www.bikinibaitcompany.com
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| thanks alot I emailed him or if you have one you would like to part with let me know thanks |
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Location: lansing, il | sorry my turmoils are precious to me as well!!! and the snax, well i keep that locked up in a safe!! it only comes out for holidays and special occasions! once in a while you will see some posted on the buy sell boards but they go very fast!!! you gotta have a quick trigger finger!! |
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Location: The desert | I'll second the Snax. Tremendous glide bait.
On a lower price level I like the manta's. All of them. Hang 10, normal, and super shallow. Great glide, lots of hang, and if you know how to work them right you can get them to belly roll a bit. Good luck.
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Mantas are nice. Sometimes these baits will move fish on tough days when no other lures like faster moving bucktails can. Gliders (mantas) saved the day for me up north last year when one day they were crushing bucktails but later on bucktail bite was off switched to manta bingo!! |
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| There is really two styles of glides long and narrow Phantoms/Turmoils and Deep body baits like a Beer Belly glider/Hosier Hand made Pot belly's Both are totally different creatures that work differently, Glides work all season, look for a bait that shimmy's on the dead fall and learn to fish it with confidence.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Perka. Perkette. Wabull. All great gliders, and all catch big muskies.
H2O makes a series of gliders that kick butt.
All the above mentioned lures, too! |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | With the exception of two sucker caught fish, all the fish in my boat over the last season and a half were caught on gliders.
but, then again, we throw ALOT of gliders. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Don't forget about Wabulls. You can do some pretty cool stuff with them. Kinda like an oversized undertaker. Plus you can get them up top and working on the surface with extra speed too.
The one thing I tend to do with gliders is don't just get the fish worked into a trance going side to side. Make them real erratic. Give them a few twitches, or rips, depending on the mood of the glider, and throw in some pauses. I find I get fish to eat more gliders by fishing erratic, and throwing in pauses. The pause gives them a target to hit, instead of missing. And by fishing erratic, they won't follow quite as much, as is the tendency of some fish that check out a glide bait. |
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Location: Apollo, PA | Hughes Rivers (the older, the better)
Trueglides (if you can get them before the euros do)
Beav's (castors and perkas)
bikinibaits (very sweeeeet) |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | My rule of thumb for gliders is that they are a FINESSE presentation.... which puts them waaaaay down on the list in regard to a general lure progression. My mainstay for "glide baits" are actually deep diving crankbaits or modified twitch baits to make them neutrally bouyant..... but when I really need a traditional glide bait is when fish are set up in heavy cover and in ambush mode.... and a long pause with minimal forward movement (and lots of lateral movement) is needed to get them to shake the dust off their backs and come up to whack a lure. Any glide bait with a very very slow sink rate will do well in this situation.... or one that will easily "pop up near the surface"..... is what I look for in a glide bait. Mostly because I'll be targeting heavy cover areas (thick weeds, stumps, etc) and absolute control of the lure is critical to avoid fouling up in the junk.
Glide baits are also beginning to get less playing time with me.... cause sometimes I'll favor the DougJ philosophy of speeding up and covering more water to find the few remaining active fish.... rather than to hunker down and MAKE a more neutral... or dare I say negative fish.... to bite. But... sometimes I'll snap on a glide bait simply because they are entertaining to cast. Its really exctiting to see a fish roll up on a glide bait and T-Bone it on the pause too! |
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Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN | My favorite gliders are from H20 tackle.
I throw some others as well but they are definately my fav's.
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Location: Davenport, IA | Theres probobly hundreds of gliders out there and most of them work pretty good. But my favorites are:
P-Ron-Ah
Hellhound
Phantom
Undertaker |
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| I see many guys that have Hellhound on their list. As far as I am concerned it is the only glider you need. Unless you feel the need to fill a couple of big boxes for ballast in your boat. |
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | I just got 6 of Don Slagles Hoosier hand made muskie Glides in the 9 inch weighted Gliders and they are extremely well made and easy to fish. Kingfisher |
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Location: syracuse indiana | i second that about the don slagle's hoosior hand mad ebaits. i have a ton of them and use them all the time he makes awsome baits ftom his gliders and toppwaters and they all have verrry loud rattles in them so the fish can find them.....
check them out you will be impressed they are easy to use and worth the money...bill |
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| gliders suck. ok ok not all the time...i use to have tons and tons of gliders..i mean tons...now about the only ones I suggest or throw are H*llhounds, Turmoils, Magic Makers, 8" custom Snax cisco, and maybe a manta on occasion... |
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| Trueglides in any model. ESP. Guppies!! Great bait and easy to work! The only problem is getting your hands on one! |
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| There are tons of gliders on the market today,but I'm partial to Mantas because of I have confidence in using them. As far as when to use them, anytime is good but I personally prefer colder water temps. when a slower presentation may be required. Also, be sure to pick up a jerkbait rod because you will have better results in working these baits. A heavy action stick will work these baits with ease over a m/h bucktail/topwater rod. |
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| There are lot of gliders on the market. I acquired a few different kinds through swap meets and found a few gems in Trueglides. I have confidence in all quality made baits. |
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