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| Ive been watching this pretty close but every two years theres a bait that surfaces that sends people into a feedy frennzy, musky world version of play station 3,, every year we have must have baits but its every two where we get crazy,,check the history???
1997 "none" no internet muskie sites yet
1999-"hughes river jerkbaits" apart from the cobb's ammabama,Eddie not many glidebaits on the market this was the worlds "first" internet hype muskie bait.,,my god a bait that costs $25!!!
2001-The Manta-cant get enough glidebaits by this time, revolutionary design and the first bait to really make use of recorded pool footage,,Remember how hypnotized you were watching the manta swing back and forth on the TV' in the show booth at all the expos.
2003-Tripple D,,,Mans worst fear was would there be any left after the Chicago show!!!,,,desined by a REAL engineer,,special injected outer shell,rear stablizer fins,,the ability to suspend at depth,,sounded like the latest threat to NATO submarines.
2005 "The Weagle" where do you even begin!!! every other thread on every klnown musky webboard for a year was about this subject.,,risky proposition taking tickets at the shows for fear of being trampled when the gate open on the first day
2007???????? get to work baitmakers your "window" is open |
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| that seems pretty simple...with the # of big fish boated on big double bladed bucktails everyone better have a few and be throwing them....alot.
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Location: lansing, il | all hot baits "must have" a leader...............  |
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Location: The desert | A mono leader at that!!!! |
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| There seems to be a year or two between coming out, people talking about them, people catching lots of fish on them, and then everyone has to have 10.
Somewhere back a few years ago bulldawgs were like that, and now you don't pass a boat with more than one guy in it where someone isn't throwing one.
A couple weeks back I was down on Big Barbee, thought I would throw a white bulldawg -- shad, cold, fall, why not?. Passed another boat, ALL THREE GUYS throwing white bulldawgs... Last year in our club tournament, same thing. I didn't pass a single boat where someone wasn't throwing a bulldawg.
This past year there were a few times I heard that "clink clink clink" sound coming from a couple other boats around me while I was throwing guess what, a tandem #10 blade bucktail.
So BN... I think Cowgirls have already happened in 2006. Weagles happened in 2005, Not sure when everyone bought dawgs.
2007???
Year of the Xrap, maybe?
The REAL question is are these baits really worth the frenzy or is it self fulfilling?
Imagine how many muskies would be caught on Bomber Long A's if everybody was throwing them all of the time...
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| hey EA you go right ahead and throw your bomber long A  ...think of how many muskies wouldn't be caught if everyone was throwing them...you'd be surprised i bet how many anglers are not or did not use the big doubles this year...I doubt there will be a hotter bait than the big doubles in 07 again..heck i'll start off throwing them in May...and the Pounder... i know one guide that put more big fish in his boat on pounders in WI than you can imagine... |
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| No way, man -- I'm not dumb, I'm throwing them tandems! Might just bring the long A's just ion case though! |
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Location: lansing, il | fluoro pointer fluoro!!!!!! hahahahaa ea why must you argue with nelson you know you will always lose! hhahahhahaa |
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| '07 may be the year of the Dunwright Tackle Lifelife Series soft plastic baits.
Check out: http://www.dunwrighttackle.com
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Location: The Yahara Chain | Definitely the Dinner Bell, hand made in a garage in Blue Mounds, WI. Proudly made in the USA.
Wait until you see the one that is the "Addict".
In 2007 double 10 domination will get even stronger.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30...
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| have to agree on the dunwright live action lures, pool demo looks great |
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| After seeing Beav's Perkas this fall, I definitely will be buying a few.
I tried to put in an order for a couple of 10"ers as well, but he says that he doesn't know when or how many or what colors he will even have available.
Definitely none for the shows, but he said to watch here because this is the only place that he posts them when he does have some ready.
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| I like the leader idea also, there is a guy making some trolling leaders for those Pounders and Suzy Suckers that sound very promising, can't wait to get my hands on a few, but then I'll have to buy a Pounder, LOL, I can already see one ahead of a Monster Deep Runner in my head.
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Location: The desert | Right! A Fluoro leader at that!! LOL! |
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| Curly Sue, enough said! |
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| I second the Sue!!!!!! It will be like Christmas all over again! Steve |
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Location: Warroad, Mn | I usually don't do this, and I'm not involved other than on a friendship/tryer outer basis!
But I had pretty good luck this past year with this lure "the Rumbler" (so did Dick Pearson and Jack Burns). It's made by a friend/client of mine
and he's going to have a few for sale at Chicago. It's a heavy topwater that floats and it's solid so it won't break. You can throw it a mile, and
because it's heavy it doesn't blow out of the water when a fish hits. It has a nice loud "pop", that's a litle different and tunable. So far thay are great
lures that have caught me (and Dick and Jack) a good number of fish.
I've ony had prototypes but Don says that the production models will be be even better. Here's a photo of one.
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Location: oswego, il | I definitley see a trend towards the giant bucktail and to lifelike paint jobs. I think those will be the atention grabbers this year. |
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| Doug, do you know if The Rumbler will be available at any other shows, like the Milwaukee one? Like I need yet another topwater... |
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Location: Palm Coast, FL | Another vote for the lifelike lures from Dunwright Tackle. If you haven't seen these baits...visit their website and look at the video. These lures look amazing!
I think another bait that was hot for 2006 was the 10" Kickin Minnow...although it didn't hold up very well. The tail kept wanting to break off.
Dan Vogel from Dunwright Tackle has "tackled" that problem with a new kind of rubber. It is very durable. At the end of the video look at the stretch in the lizard's tail...stretches out about 2-3ft. and comes right back again! |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | When Doug J speaks, I listen!
Also noticed when it stops movin it's food! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,RaZe |
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Location: MPLS, MN | I think this years will be the same as last year {Cowgirls and XXX} |
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| I think the new large TNT bucktails will be hot |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | If its solid plastic, it has potential to dominate (in my opinion). The "Rumbler" that Dougj referenced will most certainly get a look from me.... but I predict it won't become a "must have" until they start catching fish and the "self fulfilling prophecy" kicks in. So... I predict that lure will be a late arrival on the "must have" list for 2007. By August... everyone will need one if it does what Dougj says (and who could doubt DougJ?).
Double Bladed #10 Colorado designs will most certainly kick butt in 2007..... riding the heals of their success in 2006. That's a no brainer.
I also think that the Magnum LongTale spinnerbait will cash in on some of the recent rave over the classic #10 Colorado blade. There aren't too many spinnerbaits that can get the kind of speed out of a #10 colorado that the LongTale can. And when speed is the ticket.... you can't beat the standard LongTale with a #8 Willowleaf. Those in the know.... have already enjoyed that success in 2006. But... I'm obviously biased in that opinion.
And... a larger version of the X-Rap 14 would be a real winner.... but I haven't heard that there will be such a release in 2007. Is that just wishful thinking.... or is there such a possibility??? |
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| watch out for the sewer lewer in 07, 25+ fish in under a month. will post some pics when I find the time. |
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Location: Warroad, Mn | Quess I forgot to mention that the Rumbler is solid plastic (not hollow), you can hit it with a hammer and it won't break or leak.
Floats fairly low in the water, but still seems to do pretty well in waves.
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Location: Black Creek, WI | dougj - 12/7/2006 12:57 PM
Quess I forgot to mention that the Rumbler is solid plastic (not hollow), you can hit it with a hammer and it won't break or leak.
Floats fairly low in the water, but still seems to do pretty well in waves.
Doug Johnson
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| Watched that Dunwright video. My guess is that those lures will be tremendous because the action is so life-like. Hard to believe that they won't catch fish.
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Location: Davenport, IA | Has anyone thrown the new odyssey gator? I picked one up a few weeks ago. Its like a dawg but the tail is split into 2, so there are 2 tails that move the same. It also has 2 "fins" in the front. It could be a hot lure. |
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| Doug,
Do you have contact info for the fella that makes the Rumbler???? Can you email me his info? [email protected]
You said it Jason!!!! |
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| The MHM ad for the rumbler says www.crazycrank.net |
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| It's funny yesterday I was paging through EA magazine at work(don't tell my boss) and saw the add for the Rumbler and thought it was a neat looking bait( I am a sucker for topwater). Then I went on to read Dick Pearsons article where he mentions the use of the rumbler with great success this past summer. Now Dougj mentions this bait online saying it is a good one. I guess I will be standing in line with the rest of the muskie folk at the shows to get my hands on a Rumbler.
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Location: Brookfield, WI | On Friday afternoon in Presque Isle, I was a Rumbler. At the time I thought I was a Turmoiler, but now realize I was a Rumbler.
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| We at Smoker Tackle have been getting many request for a deeper SS Shad.Well we finally dialed it in over the summer and it will be introduced at the tri esox show.Also we will have a very limited run of Squirlley SS Shads that have even more wobble and a little slower rise than the original.Check out Thorne Bros and Rollies for customs.
Hope to see you all there Kyle Smoker Tackle |
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Location: mpls | Wait for the "Alias"........... |
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Location: midwest | 12'' flying witch from the boys at Delong !!! |
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| I am no D.J., but I was fortunate enough to be one of a few anglers to try the Rumbler prototypes. I have to say it will be a must have bait ! My prototypes caught fish.........the new look that will be at the show will catch fishermen.AWESOME! There will be alot of "Rumbling" in 07'.....mark my word.
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| The sample 12" Flying Witch that Rollie & Helen's received was loaned out to a few anglers to test. It caught fish, looked great in the water and came back in good enough shape to be used for the catalog photo. |
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| ACE Magnum Hell tail and Jim's Stick bait, wild action on it. |
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| Slime King - 12/8/2006 4:42 AM
12'' flying witch from the boys at Delong !!! ;-)
I second the 12" witch, I've been waiting all year to get some of those. |
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Location: Monee, Illinois | All I can tell you is that the new deeper SS Shad works really works a must pick up...
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin' | I am posting this because I don't think Roger of H2O Tackle would be bold enough and you have to see some of his new innovations.
The first is his newest called a Mutant Toad, a very well built slap tail. He has it dialed since he figured out how to make it wiggle. I wanted him to call it a 3 Legged Toad.
The second is an 8" Recon, a zig zag top water. The unique feature is he makes it with a weight set insert in the nose so the action can be changed to accomodate the mood of the musky.
For those of you not familiar with Rogers baits, they are of utmost quality and extreme strength and durability. He started using a new extra tough coating this year.
Both of these could easily become the must have bait for 07'. At this point, they are only available as custom order baits. His non custom line-up is available at Pete's Sportman in Appleton. He is also talking about going to the Blain show, getting some to the Chicago show in Rollie's booth I think, and he will be at the Musky Magic show in New London, WI.
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Regarding the new Delong Flying Witch, Is this just the smaller version of the giant witch or what? Anyone have any pictures of it?
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Jomusky - 12/10/2006 4:21 PM
I am posting this because I don't think Roger of H2O Tackle would be bold enough and you have to see some of his new innovations.
The first is his newest called a Mutant Toad, a very well built slap tail. He has it dialed since he figured out how to make it wiggle. I wanted him to call it a 3 Legged Toad.
The second is an 8" Recon, a zig zag top water. The unique feature is he makes it with a weight set insert in the nose so the action can be changed to accomodate the mood of the musky.
For those of you not familiar with Rogers baits, they are of utmost quality and extreme strength and durability. He started using a new extra tough coating this year.
Both of these could easily become the must have bait for 07'. At this point, they are only available as custom order baits. His non custom line-up is available at Pete's Sportman in Appleton. He is also talking about going to the Blain show, getting some to the Chicago show in Rollie's booth I think, and he will be at the Musky Magic show in New London, WI.
Joe.....have you been adding the weight insert to your 8"? If so, how does is run with or without? I already told Roger that I'll need two for next season, I can't wait!! |
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| muskie_man - 12/10/2006 9:24 PM
Regarding the new Delong Flying Witch, Is this just the smaller version of the giant witch or what? Anyone have any pictures of it?
It's kind of a beefed-up version of the 8" Kilr Eel, sort of in between the 13" and 8" models. Three hooks which is nice, too. I believe there was an ad for it in the latest MHM, you can see a pic of it there. |
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Location: midwest | The flying witch has the bulk of the giant witch in a shorter version with a totally different action. It has a swimming motion unlike anything I've ever seen, combined with the ability to glide out at the end of a pull. It has through wire constuction similar to previous models and three hooks like the larger giant witch. If you get a chance take a look at one during the pool demos at the show and you will probably end up owning a few. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Hopefully they filled a size nitche with the Rumber, that is a bit different than the Topraider. Hope it is not the same exact size, as it would be a great marketing decision to make it a hair bigger than the standard Topraider(I'd surely buy one...and more if it produced).
I too, cannot say enough about Rogers lures, and the fact that he keeps coming up with interesting nuances of favorites. I have a prototype of a (somewhat)roundnosed glider, and after getting the weighting right, the thing rocked. Hope to see a few more of them for 07 too.
Glad to hear that a deeper SS is on the way. Love the regular ones, and would like to see just what Smokey mentioned.
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Location: St. John, Indiana | you guys are saying alot about the dunright lures..........check out mattlures.com..............his bluegill and perch baits are better then anything you'll ever see |
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Location: WI | I find it hard to toss anything but Rogers baits from H20 Tackle anymore, he makes one that covers pretty much everything I like to do. His baits alone have accounted for 153 fish in the last 3 seasons for myself/clients. And could have been better if I would learn to not take them off to try something else in an effort to keep the fish honest.
His prototype flaptail (mutant toad) was awesome this past year, on the days when all you could muster were lazy follows, I would toss the flaptail on and it would get smoked at some point. In a year I had more rear treble hooked fish than I can ever remember, costing me several fish, I cant remember loosing a fish on his flaptail. Had to cut the hooks out more times than not. Fish got really angry towards that lure. Not a lure you would typically want to cover alot of water with, but there were a few days last year when thats all I would throw. And normally the only thing I hate more than topwater, is slow moving topwaters, not anymore! |
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Location: Davenport, IA | I'm another big fan of the h2o lures. The ripper is my favorite. Does what a Suick should. |
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Location: WI | Zach I love what the ripper does also, gets down DEEP, and its super slow death rise, I only had one issue with it, when I would get a fish following I would let it go into the death rise which is usually a deal sealer, except on the Ripper, it was really starting to irk me they would just stare at it, so I stopped fishing it as much as would have liked to, untill this year when I started tossing it a bit more again, and I think I figured it out. If you watch it on the rise, it rises ever so slightly tail up. So I got to thinking could this be it? since I have never seen a fish swim slightly tail up before, maybe that is what had the fish staring more than eating.
But that is why I love Roger, I talked to him about it a little and told him I was going to start murdering some baits by modifying them, and I couldnt get that same sweet action and head up super SLOW rise at the same time, turned them neutral or sinkers. This is why I leave the bait building to those with the minds. Well I called Roger the other nite and he had taken what I said and decided to do some tinkering with the weighting and behold, he came up with one with the same action and a slight head up rise. I am like a kid waiting for christmas now untill I have some of these in my hands!
Roger listens to everything! Its very scary sometimes, he is like a sponge. And takes what he hears and then applys it. Dude is always tinkering. Being in the boat with hime earlier this past summer while he was trying to get the Mutant Toad to do what he wanted, he took information from a conversation he had with someone years ago on towing a boat and applied it to the lure, I was amazed. The Mutant Toad is going to put some serious fish in the boat for alot of people. In the limited time I have on it I am convinced that if it were someones goal just to catch fish, this is the only lure they need! I have never seen fish get so angry at a lure before everytime. Not a lure that someone wants to cover alot of water with, although I found myself doing just that quite often just because of how I have seen it effect fish. It will definatly be welded to one of my rods this year.
Thanks again Roger for never being satisfied and always looking for a way to improve on perfection. |
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Location: michigan | I've been working hard inthe basement, An came up with these. Some of you may of seen these, and may not have. I call my little hobby Muskiehound custom Lures, and hope to have a web site soon. I have been building baits for some around my area (Lake St. Clair). When I get the web site going I will let you know. Until then I can make/ custom finish any type lure you want just pm me or give me a call.
Jim
586-218-7864
The Nils is for a customer that likes to feed toothys Walleyes.
And the Depth raider is for a row troller in Wisconsin that was looking for a unique Cisco pattern.
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Location: WESTERN WI | Thus far to date the rumbler has the most hype surrounding it this winter. If it produces many more will be sold and it will become standard fare in the bait lineup. This is the most likely scenario since, has there been a tail spinning prop bait that has never had success???
As far as the most "shock and awe" baits that I have seen it certainly goes to the 26 oz. Bulldawg. That thing, if it produces (trolling most likely or casting ) could set off a wave in the musky bait industry that would yield some HUGE baits for next year. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | If you fish weedy waters.....you need to have this in the box. About 5.00, comes with an extra body and spinner blade.
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| hound --what is that perch crank bait ? The 1st one from the left in your pic ???? MD |
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Location: michigan | Thats one of my own. I call them fakebaits. Its 9" long, weight is 3.3oz. And swims about 4 to 5 feet at a decent retrieve. It floats so you can twitch it as well. Heres a pic of a 48" that wanted to snake on a Benny bait (fire tiger)
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