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I've had a bad year for boat sluts, and the rules are tightening up for 2007.
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Location: Hartland, WI | when they bring too much tackle. there is no need for a lakewood or two and 5 rods.
two rods and a plano is all you need.
i cant stand clutter in the boat.
JJ
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | NO ALCOHOL!!!!!!
That is until the days fishing is done, then we can either Celebrate or Drown our miseries
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Location: lansing, il | too much crap yup!
no bottles! let someone brake that rule once never again!! |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | peeing on the gunwhales. Nobody likes Sprinkles.
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Location: Athens, Ohio | I just read a story of courage on MS NBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15446032/
Got me thinking about a "no cigarettes" rule for 2007. Hmmm. m |
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Location: Palm Coast, FL | #1 rule...If you desire to keep a fish go to rule #1A
#1A...you have to swim to shore with the fish and...go to rule #1B
#1B...you also have to dodge the lures I will be throwing at you on the way to shore!  |
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Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN | My first and most important rule is; "Don't hook the guide"! 
I also insist that everybody has a good time while out on the water.
No Alcohol....you'll be surpried how much better an angler you are when your sober.
"Ace"
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Location: Greenfield, WI | Many of the good rules seem to go from boat to boat.
Not hooking me is a very good start!
Another rule that I have is, I don't care if you are excited, you never stomp all over the electronics cabling (which isn't easy to get at) or the control panels on the front deck. I guide from the the back deck on my Tuffy Esox Magnum. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Bring your own equipment don't except to use mine. I have a couple friends who lose baits and don't replace them.
If you smoke don't throw your filters in the lake.
If you have to pee use the pee can.
If you eat don't smash the droppings in the carpet.
Every now and then offer to pay for gas or launch fees. At the very least offer............
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| I dont mind alcohol at all, I celebrate every catch in my boat with whiskey, havent had a problem yet, I did take out a couple newbies this summer, I also operate from the back of the boat, and My number one rule for rookies in the front is ALWAYS make overhead casts, none of this side-arm crap cause you think you can cast. I took a pacemaker to the shin at about 90mph. I dont know what hurt more, the hook, or the metal tail whacking my shin bone!
I dont really have many rules, smoking and drinking allowed, havent had any burns in the carpet yet in 4 years with my new boat. (suprised?)
havent had anyone fall out, and only one hooking incident, and that was myself taking one for the team.
I would have to stress that watching out where you are stepping when you get in the boat is a must, Had a buddy fold over some eyes on a favorite rod of mine.
Oh yeah, and absolutely positively No taking my secret weapons out for your personal satisfaction. I have some baits that no-one throws, 2 to be exact, a suick and a TR twitcher, as saric said in an article a while back, ": you dont want to be sleeping on the island with the mosquitos if you lose that bait.
Otherwise, have fun, catch a nice fish, and we'll have a drink. |
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Location: Fishing the weeds | No Smoking. No Drinking. No Figiting with any of the controls in the boat. NO COMPLAINING! If you break it because of your own negligence, you bought it ( Accidents are accidents but, I have had people break things like rods and laugh about it ). Any of these things will earn you a trip to shore. Pat |
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Location: Otsego, MN | Bringing you whole arsenal of baits when you know your only gonna use just a few any way.
Eating in the boat and smashing the food in the carpet.
leaving your trash in my compartments |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | Rule # 1 : Anything you wanna do is fine with me!
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | Man, tough crowd here! Only a few rules in my boat---you break it, you fix it---if you have limited time or are unprepared for the weather, best have a ride waiting at the landing---no cell phones going off---Have fun. |
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Location: lansing, il | yup raze she could do whatever she wanted to in my boat too! |
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| Hi all,
Only a couple of rules. First if you break it you replace it. Secondly and most importantly have fun. If you complain or piss and moan your trip will be your last. At least with me. I enjoy my time out on the water and I have been very lucky to share my boat with some really great folks.
By the way I've never had to enforce any of those rules yet. I hope it stays that way.
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Location: Minnesota | #1 Rule: Keep Casting |
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| When were in my boat the other guy is responsible for the beer and munchies. That's about the only rule, never had anyone break my equipment or burn the interior, few beer spills, thats about it. |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | Captain Bligh was an extraordinary sailor who vowed to bring breadfruit back to the Queen. His sailing and mapmaking skills were brought to the fore under the tutelage of possibly the greatest sailor the world has ever known, Captain James Cook. Like Bligh, Cook had no use for those who would not obey orders or perform their duties.
Fletcher Christian had a fondness for the ladies. Christian and Bligh could not get along. To this day, the ancestors of Fletcher Christian and his band of mutineers inhabit Pitcairn Island in the Southern Ocean.
After sailing thousands of miles in a lifeboat after the Mutiny on the Bounty, Bligh would later become the Governor of New South Wales, Australia, where he would become the subject of another mutiny. This would become the only successful armed takeover of a colonial Australian government.
He rubbed people the wrong way on land and on the sea.
Cook was killed by Hawaiians on his third and obviously last voyage to the Pacific.
Kevin
I'm tired of the traditional green bean casserole. Suggestions are welcomed. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I bet he wouldn't have been nearly as salty if he'd have had that woman ^^^^ with him. |
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| LOL
Surprised nobody has said no puking and no pit stops!
I'll take Kevin's share of the casserole
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Fletcher Christian had a fondness for the ladies. Christian and Bligh could not get along. To this day, the ancestors of Fletcher Christian and his band of mutineers inhabit Pitcairn Island in the Southern Ocean.
*yes, BUT, then Christian and some of his men were killed by the islanders they were living among. AND, many have noted that statistically (they actually compared # of lashes per man/ship) Bligh was not any more harsh a naval man than those of his day. It was more the 5 months on Tahiti that softened the men, and made them (possibly) prefer the loose morality offered by the island ladies over the harsh disciplined world of life at sea on a British sailing vessel.
Lox and bagels for lunch on Thanksgiving, now thats livin! |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | AND, the Hawiian Islanders that killed Captain Cook (after basically worshiping him as a god, talk about irony) cooked the flesh off his body (and though it is disputed) and might have eaten him.
If he truly had been such a great sailor he might have learned the one cardinal rule (as stated in Apocolypse Now by the character Chef) "Never get off the boat"
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| my uncles rule is no cheetos in the boat lol |
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| Go ahead and smoke, but be prepared to be downwind from me. Excercise common sense while doing so. Unless we pop a nice fish, then I break out the Cubans and we drift about aimlessly at some point later on.
No drinking. Drunk people tend to do stupid things. And if you miss netting a huge fish for me, you won't get a breathalizer, you'll get a kick in the nuts!
My boat is not pristeen by any means, but if you chew, you better be a swallower or a good spitter.
Nothing gets thrown in the lake except lures.
No talking politics.
No talking while the outboard is running.
You should have crapped before you got in the boat. If you have to take a dump, you better give "water-birth", or crap in one of the plastic garbage bags that I have on board and then take responsibility for it for the remainer of the outing.
Act like an adult 75% of the time.
Don't piss me off.
Be polite to others. They will remember my boat, not your face or big mouth.
If you step on the shaft of my trolling motor while exiting the boat, you will be bitch-slapped and reamed out in front of everyone at the boatlanding. I know 2 people who will testify to the severity of this rule.
It's an unwritten law that if you break or knock anything overboard, you will replace it....even customized Avids. I would do the same in your boat.
Your opinion and suggestions are welcome when it comes to spots to fish and how to fish them. If it's a body of water that you are more familiar with than I, I would expect it and would do the same for you.
I'm not a guide, so don't expect me to act like I am.
I have two cameras. Whatever we catch goes back....unless we plan on eating it. NO, not muskies. I do enjoy pike and walleyes.
If I stop fishing abruptly and lay down flat on the bottom of the boat, it's your baby to do whatever you want. When I recover it's back to business as usual.
If we are working along a weed edge or some other break, I EXPECT you to come up to the bow and fish along side me. I can cast left or right handed, you should learn how to.
Make yourself familiar with the layout of the boat and where the tools and net are stored. I'm not going to be giving you a tutorial when a fish is fighting for its life.
Relax and have a good time. If you drank 2 Redbulls and smoked half a pack of butts and are wired, don't expect me to speed up. You are required to downshift and fish at a speed that is comfortable to me. I last much longer that way.
Have boat landing etiquette. Again, people will remember my boat and vehicle, not your face.....especially your mouth.
Respect your elders.
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Location: Brookfield, WI | Good points Andrew, and all true. If anything, Cook was more harsh on his men than Bligh. In fact, it was his hard headed attitude towards thievery by islanders and desertion of several of his men, that led in part to Hawaiian islanders killing him on the beach while his men looked helplessly on.
Bligh's mistake was that he let "his men" off the boat too often, and when he tried to be the disciplinarian Cook was, the Tahitian lifestyle had changed them.
Bligh was not the man Cook was. There are islands in the Pacific where Cook is both revered for bringing the outside world, and places where he is mostly reviled for the same thing.
For those that have more interest in the life of James Cook there are many fine biographies.
The most famous is propbably J.C. Beaglehole's "The Life of Captain James Cook."
For a whimsical view of Cook's travels, I suggest "Blue Latitudes" by Tony Horwitz. Horwitz is a travel writer who retraced Cook's journeys through the Pacific. It's a fun book that gives insight into how the people descended from the "savages" of Cook's and Bligh's time of discovery/conquest actually feel. I loved it.
Kevin
I would love to try oyster stuffing, but the family will have none of it.
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Location: Monee, Illinois | DONT TALK GOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Waxing Philosophic, here, are we?
Only rule in my boat? Don't pick on Dad. |
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| Give your opinion, thoughts, or ideas on possible areas to try...and be willing to do something totally "off the wall" if we're not seeing anything.
If you are going to back my trailer in at the launch that's cool, but when you pull it out don't be one of those jackholes that pulls out and parks right in the way.
If we see someone in distress (broken down, can't get loaded/unloaded) be willing to lend a hand...karma works in funny ways so I like to keep it on the plus side.
Let's make sure we have every imaginable amount of crap in the boat piled on top of the net making it harder to get at because a fish will always hit when this is the case. |
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Location: Princeton Mn. | I don't have a list like Beaver's. But it is a super list!!
I fish alone because I'm to lazy to have a list.
My one rule is "if tired take a nap." |
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| RAZE1 has the best rule of all!! When a girl that good looking catches a fish haha anything goes for sure!! |
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| Keep your feet off the teak.
Don't scare the guide, he's scared enough already. |
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Location: Williamstown, WV | Raze,
where'd ya pick her up? Did she charge for the full day or by the hour? Just kidding. Nice fish though.
Shawn |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | You borrow a bait and catch a fish, it's yours, no bull.
Someone catches a fish in my boat, everyone takes a shnort of victory dance (unless you are a recovering alcoholic, then soda is fine).
Your Last cast is for someone you love but aint with us, and you call your shot like last pocket.
My boat, and it's just you and me, you bring lunch for both of us, and pay the launch fee.
If you did not come in my boat with PMA, you do not last the day. |
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| Only one hard fast rule in my boat. Dont leave your lures laying all over my rig. Especially on the drivers side boat seat so that when I go to sit down I get a 4/0 Lazer Sharp treble stuck in my butt!!!!!! You find out how good your friends are when you bend over and ask them to grab the pliers so they can attempt to remove the hooks for you!!!!! |
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Location: So. Illinois | No Bananas allowed...... |
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin' | You are smoking crack if you think I won't have a beer when I'm fishing, no offense.
BYOB
If we catch a bunch of fish, you are pitching in on the next bottle of whiskey
Don't get sloppy drunk, I don't, you shouldn't, I'm not your babysitter
You break it, you replace it
Don't complain if I decide to fish in the middle of the lake
Always offer to help with gas or you won't be asked ever again
Don't cast towards the front of the boat all day, once in the while is good though
Back cast on a regular basis, it is a productive practice.
Be prepared to fish a long time
Bring your rain coat because my spare is funny looking on purpose
If you fall in, we will help you out but not until after we take pictures and laugh at you a whole bunch
Hang on, my boat is the only hot rod I have
Aerosal bug spray is not allowed, it wrecks the windshields and graph screens
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| Apparently there are no rules in my boat !! It's usually total mayhem , too many baits laying around , the BIGGEST cooler for not very much stuff in it , 90% of it on top of the net !!! But we get the job done and have fun doing it , so no rules is the way it goes for now I guess !!! Oh yeah , 1 rule , BYOB !! I'm not a liqour store or a babysitter !!! |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Be prepared for a very long day. I don't go in for lunch or bathroom breaks, other than for #2(which I wouldn't want in a plastic bag in my boat, Beav..c'mon dude..).
Don't wait to be asked to grab net, unhoking tools, or camera. I prefer to do the unhooking and working on fish in my rig because I like it done quickly. I'll either hand you the fish or or let you take it out of the net.
Spitting on the side of the 'Brown streak' is ok as long as it is Red Man.
Don't be throwing a glider all day while I move along, just because you caught a fish on one last week.
Don't get on the front deck with me unless you are my wife. My deck is small enough, and I am homophobic. You can fish from the back(or front, if I'm in back).
Bring the cold ones.
Know how to back in a trailer after we finish so I can load quickly. |
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| AMEN, to not parking in the way at the boat ramp. I've seen people at the pewaukee lake boat ramp parked crossways in front of two launch spots COVERING THEIR BOAT on a busy saturday. I have no real rules for my boat we need a thread about rules at the boat landing. GET IN , GET OUT , OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. |
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Location: Ames, Iowa | I'm out with kids more than anyone else, and kids do the best job of of the following:
Be nice to everyone
No whining about how long we are out.
You must go poop before we go out- we aren't wasting quality time to take you back. Be ready to wade ashore and I'll give you my tp.
Care enough/take an interest in what we are doing to the extent you can offer smart suggestions if fishing is slow.
And maybe the most important:
We are each responsible for the safety of others- nobody gets hooked
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| The only "official" rule I have in my boat is that if you hook the Guide it is a $100 fine...if you hook your partner it is a $50 fine.
I do however have a list of Do's and Don'ts that I put together for my clients (some are "tongue in cheek"):
A “Muskie Mentor’s” Tips
by Larry Ramsell, Muskie Guide
After many hundreds of days on the water observing muskie fisherfolks “doing their thing,” I decided that I would put togehter a list of “Do’s” and “Don’ts” of some of the subtle things that can enhance or inhibit your muskie fishing success. In this manner, I can “coach” you without actually fishing with you. Don’t misunderstand, most muskie anglers do the right things “most” of the time, but.... If you do the do’s and don’t do the don’ts, great. If not, well....read on. My goal here is to make each of you a better and more successful muskie fisherman/woman, and to also help to make your guide happy if you do fish with one. A happy guide is a productive guide! Note: Written with a “smile” on my face!
DO:
*Do practice your “accuracy casting” at home, not after you get in the boat. An old tire makes a good target (take the hooks off your lure). Success on flowages often requires pinpoint casting to a shoreline or a stump/snag. When the muskies are “there”, you need to get near.
*Do think ahead and try to mentally pick out your next couple of spots to cast to, leaving room for others.
*Do listen to lure suggestions from the guide if you choose to use one.
*Do make an “L” turn or “figure 8" after each cast, especially in dark water lakes. Keep the lure speed constant and smooth, no stops. I cannot stress how important this is!!! Are you listening?
*Do make the “L” or “figure 8" nice and smooth and “large enough” for the fish to make its turn.
*Do figure 8 deep under water if you have a follow, it gives the fish “security” and they will hit it more readily than if done close to the surface.
*Do work a lure like the guide says. Slow means SLOW, not warp speed. I’m on the water nearly every day, and if the fish are wanting/liking it slow, you need to give it to them that way (if you want to catch one!).
*Do watch “behind” your lure, not “at” it. Fish follow behind and often below the lure. Pay particular attention near the boat. A few of my clients missed nice fish this past year because they weren’t watching!!
*Do help the guide swear at the fish if they aren’t being cooperative (yodeling assistance optional).
*Do return any weeds you hook to the lake, ESPECIALLY milfoil. Helps keep the boat clean and prevent the spread of milfoil and is “required” by law.
*Do slam your lure back in the water and get it moving if a fish shows up after you take it out!!! Don’t just stand/sit there and look dumbfounded, catch the darn thing!! They will often return even if they have "flashed off.”
*Do tell your guide that you love him on a regular basis, he has a tough job!
DON’T:
*Don’t cast across the other peoples lines. Stay in your “zone”. That “zone” is from straight out perpendicular to the SIDE of the boat (unless instructed otherwise), to 45 degrees forward in the direction the boat is heading. And remember that the boat is almost always moving, especially if you are using a guide, so make allowances, depending on that forward speed. Don’t cast straight ahead of the boat, slack line will occur.
*Don’t “scatter” cast. Cast your “zone.” If I want you to cast elsewhere make sure you can keep you line tight and don't interfere with another anglers zone.
*Don’t try to cover every five feet of shore line or bar. Remember that your partner, if any, needs a spot to cast to also.
*Don’t cast a country mile (too many of you are doing that!), even on open water bars. Three reasons: First, you cannot get a good hook-set at the end of a long cast. Second, short accurate casts will better cover more water and be more productive. Third, if your lure fouls or gets weeded up, it wastes more time and “screws-up” more water!
*Don’t cast over logs or way past snags. What are you going to do if one hits on the other side?
*Don’t cast “into” weed beds unless you are using a weedless lure like a Wisher Weedless Bucktail.
*Don’t overdo your figure 8. If there is no follow, go around once, and don’t go any faster than your retrieve speed was..
*Don’t use monofilament line!!!!!!! Rubber bands stretch, and so does mono, period! Large muskie lures need a good hook-set.
*Don’t piddle around. If you are tired, say so and take a break. Otherwise, get that durn lure in the water and catch a fish! Not paying attention has cost many a muskie angler the fish of a lifetime!
*Don’t think you have to change lures every five minutes just because you haven’t caught a fish. I rarely change lures more than five times in one day!
*Don’t bring 10 tackle boxes and 500 lures with you ! You’ll only use a few anyway!!
*Don’t work your lure too fast, especially surface lures. In dark water, slow is better!
*Don’t forget to set the hook. Often a surprise stike causes anglers to freeze.
*Don’t set the hook on surface lures until you “feel” the fish on the line.
*Don’t worry about getting an occasional snag. That is where the fish are and if you don’t hang up once in a while, you are either a professional caster, or aren’t getting into where the fish are.
*Don’t stand there pointing at a fish that shows up after you take your lure from the water, get that lure back in and figure 8.
*Don’t forget to hug your guide, he has a tough job.
While I'm sure there are more "do's" and "don'ts" that could be added to the above, I have every confidence that if you work at following my above suggestions, you will increase your opportunities, become a better muskie fisherman, AND catch more muskies! Good luck...
Muskie regards,
Larry Ramsell
www.larryramsell.com
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Location: minocqua, wi. | Don't be throwing a glider all day while I move along, just because you caught a fish on one last week
"Classic" LMAO ... touche' ReefHawg!!!!! |
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| The only rule in my boat is Steve VanLieshout cannot bring his cell phone. |
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| No swearing. Unless:
-you lose a fish.
-you lose a lure.
-you get hooked.
-you get bit while unhooking.
-your talking football, hockey, or some other important subject.
If your going to complain about how or where we are fishing, you'd better have a suggestion for somewhere else to go / do.
No Cleveland Browns or Philadelphia Flyers gear.
All passengers must know how to run a camera.
No drinking unless thirsty.
No "country music"
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| funny Jason (Reef Hawg)...my rules are just about the same as yours! esp. that glider one!
about the only thing to add would be that you'll have to put up w/ Summer the musky dog for the day.
don't bring too much crap!
be prepared to pull me out of the drink, haha.
don't cast across my line
rock, paper, scissors for the 1st sucker hit...
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Location: St. Croix River, Mille Lacs, | relax beav have a smoke and NO BANANAS!!!!
Oh by the YOU get the net.......................! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Beav is one of the easiest guys to fish with I know. He's just old, that's all. |
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Location: Minnesota | So far I don't see any rules about thongs? Good deal! |
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| Yeah, you guys take me WAAAAY too seriously some times.
Of course I'll let you crap if you have to, but you better take your stuff with you because I'm not coming back to get you except to take a picture for me. |
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Location: Southeast Wisconsin | 1)I only go back for MY hat.
2) Sallypuss hooksets will cost you $25.00
3) If you set the hook on a sucker fish and said sucker doesnt break away from the rig, you will be required to bite the head off.
If you find yourself questioning my rules, please refer to rule 4
4) Theres NO possible way that YOU know it all, because I know it all and I know that you DONT know it all, so listen up and you might learn something..LOL
5 more days!!
Ben
www.benkueng.com
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | Be ready to fish hard all day and into the night
Try.... to be a good caster, be precise and methodical,..... If possible
Use a different lure than others in the boat, unless we have a well established pattern like bucktails or bulldawgs, ect. ect.
Smoking is fine, just don't burn a hole in the seats or carpeting.
Be ready to have a "Motorcross" type ride accross the water at times.... (I'm a speed freak)
Know how to back a trailer down the ramp!!!!
Always,Always stay positive in the boat..... negitive attudes cause cancer and will kill any thing good.
Buy the gas, you were invited to go out and put wear and tear on someone else's rig, help out.
Learn something new every time out, and have fun.
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Location: On your favorite spot | 1. No Zebcos - they are a curse on my boat
2. Don't start screwing around just because you're bored with Musky fishing and think I care if you have a nibble from a sunfish or crappie or bass. I do not care and I'm sorry I brought you.
3. Figure 8. |
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