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Location: oak lawn IL | i'm looking for pics of your tuffys interior including the rear deck. i would prefure the 1890 ds esox or 1890 dw esox BTW what is the differance between the 1890DS ESOX and 1890DW ESOX models (i dont see it on there web site)
Edited by jim casteel 11/10/2006 3:09 PM
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Location: Sandusky, OH | Jim,
The difference between the DS and the DW is that the DS is the dual consol-sport windshields (double-bubble) and the DW has the walkthrough windshield. I can't provide pictures for you because I'm boat-less trash right now LOL! Wish I could though.
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Location: oak lawn IL | thanks eric i kind of thought thats what it was but wanted to double check.
now someone please get out there and take a pic for me or give me a measurement on that rear deck
thanks
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Location: Green Bay, WI | 1760 pics would be cool too. |
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| 1760 pics would be cool too.
here you go! 1760 tiller.
Attachments ---------------- BlackForest1.JPG (182KB - 251 downloads) Boat 002.jpg (103KB - 246 downloads) Boat 003.jpg (99KB - 238 downloads) Boat 022.jpg (81KB - 430 downloads) tuffy3.jpg (84KB - 213 downloads)
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Location: Ogden, Ut | That particular 1760 fishes much bigger than it's size would indicate. Very roomy interior (yes, it owes a bit of that to being a tiller, and a lot of that to not having a cap) and exceedingly wide. The stability of it at rest was unbelievable. Over the course of a six-day trip fishing from this boat, we had a third angler 3 of those days. It never really did feel crowded; the way the splashwell is configured, it seems to add a good bit of usable 'rear deck' space to what is already there And the livewell will hold about 60 lbs. of suckers!
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Nice boat Lambeau. I'm interested in a 1760 with a walk through windshield (1890 won't fit in my garage very well). I wonder if they'll ever make a capless 1760WT. Probably pretty hard to do. But I digress... The capped version will do nicely too.
Edited by bobski 11/10/2006 9:37 PM
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| drop Steve (sworrall) a line and ask about a walk-through "G" model (capless). i'm pretty sure mine is the only "G" model out there right now, but i bet if you ask for something like that, they can make it. Steve would know better, but i can't think of any reason they couldn't do a walk-through version?
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Just putting this out there as something to think about. My ideal tuffy would be 1790 Osprey/Esox (17-10 to 18 foot, 88"-90" beam, with performance hull like the 1890, capped) with a walkthrough windshield, and would fit on a single axle trailer. I need to be able to hand maneuver the boat into the 3rd stall of the garage for storage which is tough to do with a tandem. Engineering? What do you think?
Edited by bobski 11/11/2006 10:06 AM
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Location: London, England | Is there any reason why the back deck can't be extended over the splash well with some sort of grill? It always seems like wasted space to me and a grill would allow you to walk on it easily but it would retain its function.
What does "capped" mean?
Edited by Tim Kelly 11/11/2006 4:23 PM
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| that's basically what Tuffy did with their splash-well.
if you look at the picture from above, you'll see the splash-well area is black. this is a non-skid coating that allows you to fish from it without slipping...it IS an extension of the back deck and it works great. the well is very slightly angled toward the center so water drains out by the motor, but it's not enough to notice when you're standing on it.
in the 1760 this space is fishable, especially when combined with the livewell/deck area just in front of it. in fact, i find myself preferring to fish back there as being on a "corner" of the boat gets me even closer to the water than from up on the front deck. and in this boat, that's saying something. on the 1890 this splash-well/deck area is huge.
"capless" means there is no fiberglass cap/gunnel on top of the sides of the boat, it's a new option by Tuffy. it widens the interior space by about 6-8" depending on what part of the boat, and it gets you about 4" closer to the water - very nice for deep figure-8s and releasing fish. those shiny caps look cool, but i really like how open the boat is without it.
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Location: London, England | Many thanks. The boat in the pictures looks about ideal, do they come without the glittery paint though? |
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| question? are those railings running down the inside of your boat a tuffy feature or an aftermarket add on? thanks |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Tuffy feature, 60" rails. |
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Location: oak lawn IL | someone must have an interior pick of the 1890 ds esox?????? |
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| Wish I could help you out here. Boy, do I wish I could help you out! |
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| Here's a shot of an Esox Deep V with the rear deck installed.
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| I have an 1890 esox, I will try to remember to take some interior picks and post them for you.
Jim, you can pm me if you have further questions about it. I am just a boat owner as I got my 1890 this year, but if I can help you out I will.
Thanks,
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Location: oak lawn IL | thanks guys loos like a real nice boat, rear deck doesn't seem too small (for friends and my 8 year old) |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Does the 1890 tiller come capless? Lambeau, I liked your boat when I saw it. the one thing I did not like was the monster closed bow section(where trolling motor is mounted) which keeps the guy in front further from the water. seems they could cut down considerably on that. I did like the rear deck space with the added splashwell standing room. Very thoughtful decision to incorporate that, and is what would push me towards Tuffy at this point. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The bow cap is just large enough to properly cover the radius of the front deck and hull joint. Look at how the trolling motor mounts, too. If the front cap was smaller as you suggest, there would be no place to properly bolt on a trolling motor; right or left side. Yes, the 1890 is going to be offered as a GT and CG, call Quams Motor Sports for a quote. I'm lost as to how the bow cap keeps you further 'off the water' could you clarify? You can literally touch the water with a 6' rod tip from the front deck without bending a bit.
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| Does this help?
Attachments ---------------- My TUFFY 020 (3).jpg (86KB - 199 downloads) My TUFFY 010 (2).jpg (85KB - 189 downloads)
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Moreyes, what's the lenght and height of your 1890? I was thinking of doing a garage extention, but if I could get one of those in my existing garage then I can "reallocate" the money. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | I'd also be interested in the height of the boat on the trailer with that full windshield. I can't tell but it looks like the windshield/200 opti might be close on a 7ft high garage door. Thanks |
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| I have the 1890 DS, so I don't know about the windshield, but I need to trm my motor down a lot to get it into my garage, but it fits just fine. The Swing away tongue really helps with the length as well. |
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| 6'10" high and 22' long |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | WOW! Is that at the motor or the windshield? Windshield would be ok because I can drop the tongue and push it in. Looks like the windshield would be just a bit higher when the boat is level and the motor trimmed down.. is that correct? Thanks |
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| Windshield hieght,top of the motor is lower |
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| Reef Hawg - 11/27/2006 8:12 PM
Does the 1890 tiller come capless? Lambeau, I liked your boat when I saw it. the one thing I did not like was the monster closed bow section(where trolling motor is mounted) which keeps the guy in front further from the water. seems they could cut down considerably on that. I did like the rear deck space with the added splashwell standing room. Very thoughtful decision to incorporate that, and is what would push me towards Tuffy at this point.
hi Jason,
it's tough to really recall specifics such as that from limited time looking at a boat such you had.
imho, the bowcap APPEARS bigger than it is because there is no cap on the gunnels of the boat. so in a relative sense compared to a different fiberglass boat, the bowcap seems to take up more space. when you're up close and personal with it, it's actually quite small - just enough for the trolling motor mount and a bit of room inside for the control plugs. i found it had no impact on ability to get close to the water, which is actually better in this boat than most due to the lack of a gunnel cap and it's close set to the water. it seems to me as pretty average size when compared to other boats.
now, when compared to a flat-front "plow" hull such as the brown bomber? yes, you're further from the front tip of your boat. of course, the V-hull means you can take a wave head-on without cowering as well!
the water access along either side of the front deck is immense. during the Presque Isle outing we fished 3 people casting while running 3 sucker lines and everyone could figure-8. we had to be smart about it, but 6 lines like that would put any boat to the test. 3 guys can easily cast and work lures close to the water from this boat as long as they're not completely out of control.
drop me a line and stop by to take a look next time you're heading south. i think if you're planning to fish a lot of larger waters (Great Lakes, Vermilion, Mille Lacs) the 1890 or 2060 is right up your alley. if it's mostly inland lakes with the occasional trolling mission to the river, or on the big waters under reasonable conditions, then the 1760 is a very competitive ride. that's how my year was and i was always comfortable and confident.
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Location: north central wisconsin | Actually, I remember that part pretty well. I woud agree though, that without the caps, some of its 'bulkiness' probably is somewhat negated and probably did look bigger as a result. I just thought it was a bit bigger than alot of the other v's I've been in. I guess I'd need to fish out of it to check it out further. And, as you said, comparing it to the 'brown bomber(that would be Brown Streak to you my friend....) is prob. not the best thing to do. I would be more interested in the larger model. I plan to keep my rig, and replace it with a similar one when it becomes a lawn planter. the 1890T(if it comes without the caps and is appealing) would probably be the size/style. Again, would like a ride in yours next spring to get a feel for what I'd be in for. Appreciate the info thus far. Thanks.
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