advice on a buctail rod idea
Trick pony
Posted 10/26/2006 1:24 PM (#217192)
Subject: advice on a buctail rod idea




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My boat is fairly low to the water so i dont use very long rods. I was thinking of switching from a fast action heavy power (7) 7ft falcon to a 6'8 med power (4-5) moderate action falcon for throwing bucks. What do you all think? Ive got a pool cue at 6'4 i like for jigging, jerking, and topwater fishing, and i know the med power rod is not a good cranking rod, but it seems it would be great for the bucks.
Gander Mt Guide
Posted 10/26/2006 1:26 PM (#217193 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea





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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI
St.Croix 8' MH Premier
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Schuler
Posted 10/26/2006 1:34 PM (#217196 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea





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Location: Davenport, IA
I have no problem w/ an 8'er fishing out of an aluminum bass boat. I'm averaragish height (5'10") If you are under 5'6" maybe you'd want a 7'6"

Longer rods help launch a bucktail and can give you a deep figure 8 more easily. But its all about what you are comfortable with. If a shorter rod works better for you, than it may be the right one to use.
Trick pony
Posted 10/26/2006 1:47 PM (#217200 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea




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Im 6'3, but i grew up fishing for smallys and wallys so i guess im just more comfortable with the shorter rod. Im more concerned about the action i guess. The 7 footer is real fast, but the 6'8 rod is moderate. I was just thinking that a moderate action would be better for the fast moving bucktails. I know ill need a heavier rod than that for the cranks and jerks, but the bucktails arnt that heavy to begin with ya know.
MuskyTime
Posted 10/26/2006 3:50 PM (#217231 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea




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Location: Stevens Point, Wisconsin
Find a MED HVY rod with a fast tip that fit's your needs and is comfortable for you length wise. Many on these boards are very matter of fact in what rod should be used for what baits. It's really not until YOU try several rod length’s and weights until you find that perfect one for you. For me who casts mainly buck tails 80% of the time, I like a 7'6" MED HVY with a fast tip. I started with a 7' but moved to a 7'6" rod to help make bigger circles during figure 8's. Now this summer I tried an 8'3" custom rod for throwing heavy XX buck tails and fell in love with that rod! So your taste will very from time to time depending on you're physical makeup and distance you are off the water. Generally speaking if you find a good 7'6" MED HVY with a fast tip you will be in the ballpark.

Ed
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/26/2006 4:27 PM (#217235 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea





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Get the G Loomis 7ft Medium w/ Fast Action Bucktail rod. I've got this rod and LOVE it. It is very versatile and works great for bucktails/topwater/cranks and even gliders All around great rod.

Mike
Professional Edge
Posted 10/26/2006 5:49 PM (#217246 - in reply to #217235)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea




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I know length of stick is all preference and I would never try and change somebody that likes shorter sticks but I sure wish I would have had the fish I caught today on video. The fish came in so deep under a mojo that the guy next to me could not see it. I started to figure 8 deep with a long pass and the fish stayed on it and on the turn it came up to eat it. Not sure I would have caught that fish if I were not doing a deep figure 8. I was having trouble with fish doing an about face when they got to the boat. I now drive any lure I am using as deep as I can as it comes to the boat and watch to see if there is a fish behind it. I think the deeper the bait is when it comes to the boat the better your chances are of catching that fish even if you are throwing topwater.

One thing that is not mentioned as often about long sticks is the ability to move baits from side to side and up and down as the lure comes to the boat.

For what it is worth I use a 8-6 no matter what kind of boat I fish out of for bucktails. Just seems to be what works for me.

Hope all is well.

Keith
esoxman50
Posted 10/26/2006 7:34 PM (#217264 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea




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Keith at Professional Edge got me to try one of his eight footers and I can't imagine a better rod. Yopu have so much more control over shorter rods, with both the lures and the fish. I fish out of a high sided Lund and a very low sided jon boat and the longer rods work well out of them all. They are so good that I've ordered an eight foot six inch rod, every little bit helps.

Joe Wishin
Jason Bomber
Posted 10/27/2006 11:40 AM (#217384 - in reply to #217192)
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My boat sits very low to the water, and I love my 8 footer.

I truley believe having your rod tip in the water that 1 second earlier will put extra fish in the boat. Its much easier to keep a bait moving in the turns of a figure 8 with a longer rod, and I even notice a difference between a 7'6 and an 8'. Just my prefference.
The longer a rod I buy, the more I like it.
Jason
Trick pony
Posted 10/27/2006 11:49 AM (#217387 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea




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Ill keep working the shorter rods, but the first chance i get to try some longer ones i def. will. The thing that confuses me is the rod actions. Im so used to looking at bass rods. An example is with the buck tail rods. They are a fairly fast moving lure, so bass fishermen would want somthing with a moderate action that bends like a rainbow. All the rods that have been recomended for the bucks though have been fast action. My 7 footer is a fast action, so that should be ok. Im ok with that as you all know alot more about musky rods than i do. In terms of a crankbait and jerk/glider rod though, my 7 footer will not be able to handle those bigger baits. I was going to use a 6.5 pool cue style rod for cranking, jerking, and topwater baits. Am i going at this all wrong, or will my rod presentation combos work out ok?
IAJustin
Posted 10/27/2006 1:33 PM (#217406 - in reply to #217192)
Subject: RE: advice on a buctail rod idea




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I wouldn't use a rod shorter than 7' for any application -I use a 8' heavy St. Croix Premier - for all big cranks, dawgs, ect. .....Generally use my 7'6 MH Avid for "hair"