50" or Boone&Crockett
guest
Posted 10/21/2006 8:27 AM (#216150)
Subject: 50" or Boone&Crockett


I was just curious now that fall fishing has heated up and deer season has started to take off, what would you rather have a shot at, a 50" slob or a Boone&Crockett Wall hanger...?????
muskie_man
Posted 10/21/2006 8:32 AM (#216151 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY
As of right now i would go with a Boone&Crockett for sure as the farm that i am huntin on has at least one on it!! But come spring and summer bring on the Fifty!!
BNelson
Posted 10/21/2006 10:20 AM (#216166 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: Contrarian Island
i gave up bow hunting years ago when I got the musky bug....last year I didn't even gun hunt the opener as I was on the water in Northern Wi...only one on the lake and boated a big one, priceless...for me I'll go with the 50" ski...

Edited by MSKY HNR 10/21/2006 10:21 AM
Grunt Lures
Posted 10/21/2006 11:08 AM (#216169 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: Minnesota
Easy for me now. I would take the 50" muskie. My first buck was a B&C along with two other small ones in about 10 seconds. Would be great if you could take a 50" muskie and two 40"s all in a few minutes or less. Need to teach my foot how to reel though Still hunting for that 50" muskie. Will be out this afternoon and into the night on my local lake. See if I can get that 55"er to take a bite out of my Grunt.

James
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guts
Posted 10/21/2006 11:15 AM (#216172 - in reply to #216150)
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nice bucks there grunt
gills
Posted 10/21/2006 11:20 AM (#216174 - in reply to #216150)
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booner for sure. ive caught 2 49 inchers, so ive been close, but nothing gets me going like seeing a huge buck coming my way.
MuskyJay
Posted 10/21/2006 11:21 AM (#216176 - in reply to #216150)
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I would take the 50 inch muskie over the Boone and Crockett. But I would take a 170 class poe and young over the 50 inch muskie. Something about bow hunting is twice as good as gun hunting.

Muskie24
Posted 10/21/2006 11:23 AM (#216177 - in reply to #216174)
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Nice bucks there grunt...!!!!!!!!!!! I think i would have to take the B&C....nothing like a great RACK to get your heart going...!!!!!!!!
Dan Urbas
Posted 10/21/2006 11:44 AM (#216183 - in reply to #216150)
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Well I have taken both. Now a net booner is a lot more difficult then gross boon.
I would take another booner over any 50"er.
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/21/2006 12:12 PM (#216191 - in reply to #216150)
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I'd take a 50 incher for sure! I've never even seen a buck when hunting, I'm sure it is exciting but I would rather put the time into the fish!

Mike
Reef Hawg
Posted 10/21/2006 12:29 PM (#216194 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: north central wisconsin
It is really location, but I would go with that which is more difficult to cme by for me. Since I have no B&C bucks to my credit, I dream of getting one. I know my chances of catching a 50" Musky are much higher than getting a B&C buck, as I fish waters regularily that 50"ers do show themselves on. I have the same quest for big fish that I have always had, but now that my friend sold his Illinois farm, and I will never have access there again, a true shot at a booner is much more rare. I hunt some very nice land, but the best our group has ever done was one deer in the 150 class and a few in the high 130" range. A booner where I hunt would be a huge surprise and more of a pleasant one than a 50"er where I fish if that makes any sense...

Edited by Reef Hawg 10/21/2006 12:31 PM
reelman
Posted 10/21/2006 1:04 PM (#216198 - in reply to #216150)
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A Booner without a doubt. While I have never caught a 50" I know that if I put my time in I could catch one in a couple years but you could hunt a lifetime on great property without ever seeing, much less shooting, a Booner. Plus the 50" will live in public waters, trying to get a booner without paying big bucks to hunt a prime piece of property is almost immposible.

Look at the number of 50" that are caught every year by the relativly few anglers pusuing them and now look at the number of Booners shot by the MILLIONS of hunters pursuing them!
MNmatt
Posted 10/21/2006 1:32 PM (#216205 - in reply to #216150)
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Lots of replies echo the same message... B&C is a lot more rare than a 50". Change the 50" to 56, 57, 58, 59, or 60" or 45# or 50# etc...and I bet the answers would be different. You gotta compare trophies of equal "weight"...

B&C vs. 50"? Maybe lean toward the B&C.

B&C vs. upper 50" fish or a TRUE 45# plus fish? I WILL TAKE THE FISH ANYDAY!!!

sworrall
Posted 10/21/2006 1:48 PM (#216208 - in reply to #216205)
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I'll be in a tree this afternoon after spending the morning cutting firewood with Keith. I really don't much care about a trophy deer now, I've plenty of mounts and no room on the wall for another. I wouldn't mind another 50, that's always a welcome happening, and of course I'd arrow a P&Y no worries, but either is just fine as fate might allow.


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guest
Posted 10/21/2006 1:51 PM (#216209 - in reply to #216205)
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MnMatt

So you are saying that a 50" fish is not a trophy anymore? I bet alot of guys and gals would say that a 50" fish is a trophy to them.


Ok then go Trophy for Trophy:

If you had to make the choice between either fishing for what you consider a TROPHY fish or having the chance to hunt for a B&C what would you choose..???
MNmatt
Posted 10/21/2006 8:41 PM (#216247 - in reply to #216150)
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Guest,

Most folks consider a 50" muskie a trophy, but most folks also consider a nice 8 pointer a trophy too.

B&C bucks are much more RARE than a 50" muskie. Lot's of 50" muskies are caught and RELEASED each year and muskies can live 15 to 20+ years, an extremely old buck might make 7 or 8 years old, once a buck is shot it's dead, you can't release a deer.

it depends a lot on where you hunt or fish as well, in terms of how rare different trophies are.

Do people ever shoot 2, 3, 4, or 5+ B&C deer in one day? NO. Do top guides shoot 20, 30, 40+ B&C deer in one year? NO.

Once in a lifetime deer might be a B&C and a once in a lifetime muskie is ABSOLUTELY larger than 50 inches if you put the time in fishing them well on good trophy waters.

muskynightmare
Posted 10/21/2006 11:52 PM (#216263 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
Ahhhhhh, Steve's pics bring me back to, um, well, a few weeks ago, when I had the pleasure of having lunch with him and Chuck " I love to mess with the Nightmare's head" Nelson.
Boone with a bow has to be akin to a fitty casting. However, I gave up the bow last year to chase these derned muskys later on than I had. Do I miss bowhunting? UBETCHA! But, I love these cruel fat females that we love so much that our wive's understand.
FYGR8
Posted 10/22/2006 6:53 AM (#216267 - in reply to #216150)
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HEY STEVE....THAT TEK-NEEK IN FISH PHOTO #1 LOOKS FAMILIAR. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED THEM FOR?......DECORATIONS?
sworrall
Posted 10/22/2006 9:01 AM (#216275 - in reply to #216267)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
8, Actually, yes. I didn't have one, and wanted one for the collection. I think your VS baits are built, and will be out this week...
fish4musky1
Posted 10/22/2006 9:36 AM (#216276 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: Northern Wisconsin
ill take any size muskie because to me they are all trophys,but thats probally because i dont catch alot.
J.Sloan
Posted 10/22/2006 9:49 AM (#216277 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI
B&C for sure. Spent the morning chasing bluebills to my brothers and dad, most fun I've had in a long time. Anything outdoors is all good.

J.Sloan
Mikes Extreme
Posted 10/22/2006 9:56 AM (#216278 - in reply to #216276)
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
I got to go with a Boone&Crockett for sure.

The areas I hunt here in Waukesha County do have that size deer BUT they are very smart and nocturnal due to lots of hunting preasure. Muskies can be caught 24/7 day or night. Big, huge bucks will give you a chance for a week or two a year during the rut. I find it harder to score a Boone&Crockett buck than to catch a 50-incher.

Now if you go to a 55-incher or a Boone&Crockett, that would be more equal. They both exist but both are very hard to see if ever for some. It all depends on the areas you fish or hunt. Some people fish in areas where a 55-incher is only a dream and others hunt where a Boone&Crockett might never grow up to those standards.

I have caught two 50lb + fish but I have never shot a Boone&Crockett........................I have the first two weeks off in November and that is my goal. I got a P&Y last year and now a B&C. Bring on the rut so I can stick my Boone&Crockett, then I will be in full muskie mode for the rest of the season.
mskyhntr
Posted 10/22/2006 12:37 PM (#216291 - in reply to #216150)
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Newbie ? here.
What is a P&Y?
And what is a Boone&Crockett?
IAJustin
Posted 10/22/2006 3:07 PM (#216303 - in reply to #216150)
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Deer Record keeping organizations -Pope & young has to be shot with a bow - whitetail must be 125" , Boone & Crockett any legal weapon may be used and must be 170" (whitetail) to qualify

These are for typical whitetails

Edited by IAJustin 10/22/2006 3:14 PM
mskyhntr
Posted 10/22/2006 3:13 PM (#216305 - in reply to #216150)
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Is that in height or in weight?
IAJustin
Posted 10/22/2006 3:15 PM (#216306 - in reply to #216150)
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antler scoring system
IAJustin
Posted 10/22/2006 3:24 PM (#216307 - in reply to #216150)
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Anyone ever done both in the same day, week, year? Two years ago I landed a 48.5"x26" prespawn fish and that fall arrowed a 154 7/8" 10 point...I think thats my new goal: shoot a 170" and catch a 50" the same week. (I like a challenge) LOL

Edited by IAJustin 10/22/2006 3:25 PM
guts
Posted 10/22/2006 4:10 PM (#216310 - in reply to #216150)
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the musky have seen big bucks but nothing like seeing a musky follow your bait
Dan Urbas
Posted 10/22/2006 4:24 PM (#216312 - in reply to #216307)
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I got a 55"er this past June and arrowed a 162" last weekend. My best buck is a 191"er but no 50+er that year.
BenR
Posted 10/22/2006 4:39 PM (#216314 - in reply to #216150)
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Looks like we have a lot of 150+ inch deer here...would love to see photos as I am stuck out east and miss the days in IL...but the muskie fishing is better out here so I guess it is a trade...Ben
Big Perc
Posted 10/22/2006 8:33 PM (#216352 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: Iowa
Well beings as how I have never caught a 50"er or shot a buck I would say that is a pretty high goal for me...

Big Perc
Grunt Lures
Posted 10/22/2006 9:37 PM (#216369 - in reply to #216312)
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Location: Minnesota
Dan,

Would love to see a pic of that 55" and your 191" buck. Please post if you have them.

James
Beaver
Posted 10/23/2006 5:04 AM (#216394 - in reply to #216150)
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Definitely a B&C.
I've shot Pope and Young bucks up to 149", and have had close encounters with bigger ones.
I've also caught some nice muskies, and have had some close encounters with fish that were over 50", and the adrenelin rush pales in comparison to having a 250# animal within 20 yards of you.
Killing big deer can be a fluke, a once in a lifetime happening. But seeing them makes you shake uncontrolably and you have to hang on to the tree. I've never felt like puking or like falling over from being around a big fish. It is thrilling, but it doesn't alter your brainwaves like a run-in with a big buck does.
Forget the B&C. Do it with a bow and see if you can keep your pants clean. Putting down a 150 class animal at 250 yards is cool, but it doesn't come close to trying to breathe without being heard.
I'd be more proud of a 150" P&Y than a 170" B&C, simply because of the weapon of choice.
Beaver
Posted 10/23/2006 5:05 AM (#216395 - in reply to #216150)
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Was going to post a pic, but lost it when the computer crashd. I'm sure that I have one somewhere

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IAJustin
Posted 10/23/2006 8:42 AM (#216427 - in reply to #216150)
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Beaver I have to agree with you. Close encounters with big bucks are unforgetable. I had my perfect ten point (154" +) within 10 yard of me with no clear shooting lane, and was trembling out of control (probably would have missed the shot?). He finally stepped into a clearing at 35 yards and composed myself to make the shot -(visuals that will never be forgotten). Personally thats why I am addicted to muskie fishing, the visual .....man I wish I was in a tree right now, work is overrated!

Dan Urbas
Posted 10/23/2006 9:20 AM (#216435 - in reply to #216369)
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Location: Minnesota
Here is my 55" from late June and a 191 from 2004. Both were without a guide and on my own.
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muskyboy
Posted 10/23/2006 9:41 AM (#216444 - in reply to #216150)
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Nice double, thanks for the pictures
IAJustin
Posted 10/23/2006 10:13 AM (#216460 - in reply to #216150)
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Wow! both awesome!!! - What where you more proud of/excited about??? ....I love big fish - but I would take that Buck over a 58" ski personally!
BenR
Posted 10/23/2006 10:52 AM (#216468 - in reply to #216150)
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Nice deer...love seeing photos of big bucks...especially this time of year...Ben
guest
Posted 10/23/2006 11:12 AM (#216475 - in reply to #216150)
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That buck is absolutley huge. The body is almost as impressive as the rack how much did that horse weigh??
dogboy
Posted 10/23/2006 11:47 AM (#216482 - in reply to #216150)
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I wish I was either vegetarian, or, scared of touching fish. I have the hardest time choosing which to do and when. I am always in the boat wishing I was in the treestand, and vice versa. It doesnt help that I took my buddy out this last saturday, he never went musky fishing before, so, I was like, hey, I'll take you out, be at my house at 6am, he shows up and tells me that friday night, while I was at a friends wedding, he shoots a big 8pt we have been watching. So, I take him out, have him take the first rod that goes off, and he lands a fat 43 1\2 within 5 minutes of trolling. So, If I could just shoot a "nice" buck now, Id be happy, I have tons of skis from the fall, just lacking in the meat department.
Shep
Posted 10/23/2006 11:49 AM (#216483 - in reply to #216475)
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Trick photography. Look how far behind the buck Dan is. And he's not kneeling, either. He's on his butt, so the deer looks that much bigger yet! And both without a guide, so they count, too! Cool Beans, Dan! LOL. Just kidding, Dan. That is one awesome buck!!

While I was extremely happy and excited to finally get my 50 incher, and I got the leg shakes on that fish, and my boys big fish 3 years ago, there is absolutley nothing that makes my heart POUND, like a BIG buck does. My biggest is only a 140 class so far, but I've seen some monsters out there. Maybe if I ever get back on some decent land, and maybe can find some for bowhunting locally, I'll have a shot at a big deer again. Hope the heart can stand it.

I'd say B&C for sure!



Edited by Shep 10/25/2006 8:58 AM
Beaver
Posted 10/23/2006 3:36 PM (#216548 - in reply to #216150)
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Dan, one hell of a first post!
Why so shy?
You obviously know what the hell you are doing
Beav
Wisconsin Wade
Posted 10/23/2006 7:14 PM (#216592 - in reply to #216482)
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Location: Lincolnshire, IL
I haven't caught a 50" Musky...yet...45" Biggest so far...Biggest Buck is 143 Gross...harvested in '04(photo attached)...I would have to say...B & C buck...what do you think this 8 point(photo attached) will score from the trail camera 130 maybe 135(the buck on the right)?

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muskynightmare
Posted 10/23/2006 7:50 PM (#216606 - in reply to #216150)
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
GIMME DA FITTY!
Lord, please make it happen up in PI this weekend. and bless the little starving pigmies. Amen.
tomyv
Posted 10/24/2006 8:52 AM (#216678 - in reply to #216606)
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Give me the Buck. Hands down.