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| Anyone use big baits? Curious if anyone has used large baits (14 inch plus) for muskie fishing and what type of luck you have had and with which baits.
Examples
Musky Snax
http://www.muskysnax.com/home.html
Wishmaster
http://www.wishmasterbigbaits.com
Grunts
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com
Danczyk
http://www.danczyk-lures.com/BigTrollingLures.html
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | I have tested the Muskiefool trolling baits, both the Mayeye and the SB Derby Diver... both run very well, shallow setting is 12' deep setting around 27' So far all I have done is test the bait to try and determine the dive curve, so have not had a chance to actually fish with it.... |
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| the may eye and the larger woodie thumpers. a mans gotta be ready for fall fishing |
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Location: The desert | I do indeed throw large baits. I also have one less bait in my box  But it is being replaced. The musky snax baits not only look fantastic but also have an incredible action......just dont let your friends take them for a test drive!
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Location: mpls | You should PM Capt bigfish. He regularly uses baits that are bigger than what most people use. 18"+!! He catches lots of fish and big ones to.
One of the fish that got him 10th in Vermilion tournament was caught on a Supernatural(18"). |
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| Only fished with people who own wishmasters. (and I lost one without hooking up...boooo) Their biggest fish have come from them 54 & 51"... I think it's more important in fall. During the Summer I try to match whatever size fish I'm imatating for that body of water. On a Lake that holds target bait species over the 14" mark I wouldn't be scared to try baits over 14"...IMO.
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| Like the big Grandmas myself. |
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Location: Passaic, NJ - Upper French River, ON | Got a prototype 12" Big Game crank from Tony in that dark green white belly perch color - I'll need another soon. |
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | 12 inch big game?? i NEED one of those. any idea when they come out??? |
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| Is there a link for Muskie Fool baits? Thanks. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | bottom of my post Dacron..... |
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| No such place as Muskiefool LOL |
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| Bigger the Bait the better I feel |
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Location: mpls | Check out the "Supernatural" Thread |
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Location: Eagle River, Alaska | |
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| Any pics of these monster lures you guys have in your tackle boxes? Love to see some fo these. If you have a baby, please place it next to the olure for size comparison. I am sure the wife won't mind! lol
Gary G
PS-How do you post pics on these boardas anyway? Tried a while back with no luck? |
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| I recently found out about these large trolling baits. Each bait is hand crafted by a gentlemen in MN. I was truly impressed with the quality of these baits. My rig is not set up for trolling, but I am hoping to get out with a buddy of mine that does troll to give these baits a tryout. Here are a couple of pics, and the website is: http://www.gruntmuskielures.com
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Location: Iowa | I use big baits a majority of the time...baits like the 12" Trueglide Tremor, 14" Muskie Snax sucker, 12" Muskie Treats, 12" Phantom, XXX, Ghosttail V, Plows, 14" Jakes, 13" Grandmas, 12" Slammer Minnows, and Pounder Bulldawgs...the Wishmaster craze has crossed my mind before but that was a moment of insanity...don't get me wrong, they are incredible baits, I just can't afford a $250 lure esp. after my rods being stolen...I love all the baits I mentioned above and in most situations would pick a big bait before a smaller version...
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | sorry to hear about your rods. where they stolen out of your boat or something?
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| I picked up one from Dunnwright Tackle over the winter. My first BIG bait. Tried it out once. It likes to move nice and slow with an exagerated roll. It's gonna see a lot of water time this late fall and, hopefully, the inside of some fishes mouths. |
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| At 13 oz I haven't really wanted to throw this 20" long bucktail all that much. I intend to try it as a throw-back or when going back to a big fish spotted earlier. I'll definitely post pictures if it ever works.  Pls note the other bucktails in the photo are a Mepps #5, Mepps Giant Killer, and an 11 inch Eagletail.
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Location: Apollo, PA | If you truly want to committ to BIG BAITS, contact Capt. Pink-- I mean Capt. Bigfish and try his Supernaturals. They are boss!!
18"s of indestructible firepower!!
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Location: Muskegon Michigan | We build and use very large cranks. Our Talonz Deepthreats have taken several Fish over 54 inches in the Georgian Bay area. I build 12,15 and 21inch models and the price is not as bad as the Wishmasters. HR Johnny Dadson trolls with one of my 21 inch Lake trout. We use the 12 inch models in Michigans deeper lakes where Whitefish and or Splake are target forage. Open water suspending Muskies are suckers for a 12" Brook Trout pattern. All of our big baits feature .078 wire thru construction acrylic paint and triple coats of Etec. Check out our website . Kingfisher |
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| When do you boys start throwing,,,or I should say dragging these big monsters. I would guess Late September until end of season? |
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| I use bigbaits now from opener to hard water. I believe the only difference is in the fisherman's mind. Try fishing big, then go bigger. You'll see. |
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| Yep, go BIG or go home!! I like trolling these big boys too all through the year. Have had a lot of luck with them. Plus I can dreeenk more beer when I trolllll not to mention cover more water. |
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| Here's a pic of a 13" Trueglide Undertow. Great for trolling or casting.... |
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Location: mpls |
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Location: mpls | This is the one I meant...
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| Got a hot pink 16 inch Grunt off of eBay about 6 weeks ago and got my first tiger muskie last week here in IA. Biggest tiger muskie I have ever gotten! ha ha A 34 incher over old fallen trees in about 20-22 feet of water. Not my first use of a big trolling lure but it was nice to finally get a tiger muskie! I will definitly be buying and using some other big baits this fall. |
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| Has anyone tried the 12" Jaxon Pike, and what did you think of them if you did? Saw some at some store a while ago and thought they looked interesting.
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Location: ashtabula ohio | i too purchased a grunt, the thing goes totally flat on its side when it rolls in a big s pattern. never seen a bait roll like this one. prices are good also... |
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| lucky,
How fast were you trolling that Grunt and how wide did she travel? Which one did you get if you don't mind me asking? Sounds interesting.
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com/muskytrollinglures.html
Thanks
luckymusky - 7/30/2006 7:37 AM
i too purchased a grunt, the thing goes totally flat on its side when it rolls in a big s pattern. never seen a bait roll like this one. prices are good also... |
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| Uptown - 7/28/2006 9:09 PM
Here's a pic of a 13" Trueglide Undertow. Great for trolling or casting....
Found the website. How do you order? Checked eBay for them but no luck . Did see some fo the others listed in this thread though.
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| I see some of those Grunts on eBay now. Watched some Novak lures go yesterday. Would not mind getting some of those too. His lures seem to go very high though. The one I wanted went for $51 a few weeks ago. Need some new items for fall season!!!! |
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Location: ashtabula ohio | homina,i got the deep walleye pattern one. brown scaled bait with org belly. i was goin pretty slow, prolly less than 2 mph cuz the sucker was pullin so hard...lol. id say it went off about a foot in each direction on a big s pattern. what i liked was that it rolls totally on its side with great flash...! |
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Location: Iowa | I have one of those Polish Pike Lures in the 12" model that I have yet to use...I would really love to get my hands on one of those trueglide crankbaits in the walleye color or sucker color...I have plows out the you know what though...
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| luckymusky - 8/2/2006 2:37 PM
homina,i got the deep walleye pattern one. brown scaled bait with org belly. i was goin pretty slow, prolly less than 2 mph cuz the sucker was pullin so hard...lol. id say it went off about a foot in each direction on a big s pattern. what i liked was that it rolls totally on its side with great flash...!
Thanks lucky. I just bought one off of the www.gruntmuskielures.com site and will let you know if I catch anything trolling. Got some plans for using this cisco monster in the fall on mille lacs. |
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | i bought a couple of the polish pike back when i thought just because a lure looks good it will catch
fish. i dont really like the action and the lips and hardware (hookhangers) seem kind of wimpy. |
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| Just got an email that you had posted some good stuff on my Grunt. Nice to see my lure is working for you Lucky! Please email me with any pics and good luck. Set my price on my new website to $36.75. Hope that is a good price for large handmade trolling baits these days. Got some jointed ones and some painted by MRG coming soon. Well, just wanted to say hello and thank you for the kind words.
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com
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| Luv washing my big lures. Fav's are"
Frankie Baits
Plows
Talonz
14" Jakes
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | figured I would post a pic of my SB derby diver from Muskiefool... Pattern is called Cataclysym Kat (the fish the guy is holding is the color pattern that inspired the paint job)
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| What is that fish? Looks like a tiger muskie with most of his mouth sewn shut. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Its a Surubim catfish from the Amazon |
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Location: Minnesota | That sure does not look like the catfish I used to catch in my pond in Iowa when I was a kid! Funky looking thing!
Mr Grunt
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com
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Location: Minnesota | Just curious if anyones knows what the largest bait out ther is? I have seen a 22 incher but nothing bigger. Can't imagine the monster that would take a 22 inch bait. |
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Location: The desert | No Box Baits makes a trolling bait that is 23 inches I believe.
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | No Box(23") and MuskieFool(22") seem to have about the biggest baits I have seen, though I thought there was someone with a 24" somewhere... I have seen a couple Musky with what appeared to be fish roughly in the 20-22" range in their mouths.. a site to see for sure.... I guess those cats can get to around 80lbs or more and one thing I read is they hit lures.... sounds like a road trip is in order for them.... lol... |
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Location: Minnesota | I have seen a 24 inch jointed but it was homemade and about 30 years old. It is screwed onto the wall at the Sportsmans lodge up in Ontario Canada now. The owner and his brother (who owns Anglers Kingdom) used to row troll it around the lake. They stated they did catch some monster pike (45-50+ inches) on it once in a great while. Days of rowing for one fish. |
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Location: Minnesota | Just an FYI...
My MRG painted lures are in and they look great! Many have said to charge $60-$70 or more for these big trolling baits but I have kept the price below $40. I hope this is a good deal for all as I know cash is getting hard to come by these days for most (*Hence me making muskie lures!)These are handmade from American hardwood and only use top terminal tackle like Wolverine triple split rings, Mustad hooks etc.
Thank you for those of you who have emailed me with suggestions and recommendations for my site and lures. FYI-I only have one of each of the MRG color patterns right now but will have more of each soon. If I do not have "Sold Out" over the picture I still have it in stock. I do have lots of stock color patterns and jointed models and will not run out of those for a while. Making more as fast as my wife and kids will let me. email me with any questions.
MRG Lures:
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com/mrgmuskielures.html
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| Got a 10" Polish Pike last fall and had a 2 muskie day using them while casting. I like their action and they aren't too bad to cast. Some of the finish is coming off, but I'll take that when it means I've released a couple of fish!!! I know more fish will fall to it again soon!!!
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Location: Minnesota | If anyone wanted to try out a 16 inch Grunt one will be auctioned off on the Michigan Muskie Alliance -- Muskies, Inc. Chapter 47 site. Good cause for thier club and in general muskie fishing in MI. I would suggest that if you have anything to help you contact Kingfisher.
http://www.michiganmuskiealliance.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=39
Have a good week/weekend all!
James
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com
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Location: Minnesota | Auction is now live. Also a lot of other great lures are on auction for a very good cause. Hope all can help.
James
http://www.gruntmuskielures.com
Muskie lure auction:
http://www.michiganmuskiealliance.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1634
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| Great looking lures!
Question: What is the smallest muskie or pike you will catch with these lures? In other words, how big does a fish need to be before they will go after big lures like these?
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Location: Minnetonka , MN. | I like th 13" grandmas 
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| teck,
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Location: Minnesota | Newbie-Greg,
Take the length of the bait X2 and that is where you will start
Use a 16 inch lure and catch 32 inch muskies and larger. Just my general rule of thumb and seems to be about right from the data I have found in journal articles dealing with the gut contents of muskies and pike. Not a lot out there on the subject though....
With that said I have caught pike smaller than the lures I was using while fishing in Canada.
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Location: The desert | Soon to be the proud owner of a 24 inch bucktail! |
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Location: chicago | What type of leader do you use for these baits? Trolled a 13'' believer and the snap came undone after 3 minutes of trolling. |
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| Get a Wishmaster 300 pound trolling leader from Rolf, simply the best |
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Location: Minnesota | muskyboy,
Do you have a link?
TIA,
James
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| James, here you go and thanks for my lure Mike is going to help me originate
www.wishmasterbigbaits.com
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | I could not find the leaders on the Wishmaster website when I looked real quick, but here is a link to his website: http://www.wishmasterbigbaits.com/default.asp perhaps a quick email to Rolf will get you the leader info... |
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| [email protected]
Correct email Rolf, he doesn't build many, so get the casting leader and trolling leader, both the best I have ever used |
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Location: Minnesota | Thanks muskyboy.
Those baits are awsome! http://www.wishmasterbigbaits.com/
Mine weight 12.5 oz. ( http://www.gruntmuskielures.com ) I wonder how much that 18 inch Wishmaster weighs?
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Not sure pn the weight of the wishmasters, but the Muskiefool Mayeye and SB Derby Diver weigh about 1.75lbs and are about 22", The Mayeye is on top, the SB Derby Diver on the bottom, the one in the middle is a Proto we are fine tuning thats a little smaller...the others are ready to go and have a dive curve from about 15' to 28' depending on which line tie you use, both have very good wobble..
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| the maye-eye are a very awesome piece of lumber |
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