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| here's a couple "sneak peek" photos of the brand new Tuffy 1760 GT.
it's the re-engineered 1760 hull and interior, minus the big fiberglass cap.
it handled the windy and wavy conditions on Petenwell today admirably with a dry ride.
the open cockpit design made it easy to move around, tons of storage meant no clutter lying around in the boat and things stayed dry and tight.
fishability? ha!
this boat is all deckspace, front and back, making particularly good use by converting the sides of the rear splashwell into casting deck with a non-skid coating.
it fished much bigger than it's 17.5 foot size; the removal of the cap gives you close access to the water while preserving the deep-v hull for running bigger water. best of both worlds.
call me biased, but i'm impressed, and i think you will be too...
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Location: Burnsville, MN | Sweetness... My Next Boat!
Trade in my 'ol Tuffy for the new. Wish I could do it this year. |
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| Nice rig, you guys look happy. I especially like the rail mounted on the inside gunnel. |
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Location: Northwest Wi. | Looks like my new boat!!!What size motor and what speed?? |
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| Nice channel cat. I didn't think they hit baits that big. That's a sweeeeet boat you got there Lambeau. Do you have your electronics rigged up yet? I havn't heard anything on my Magnum yet, but I am still optomistic. If you don't mind I would like to take a closer look at your new Tuffy. I will speak with you later. |
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| Does this boat have the new electrical system.......? Is it wired for a 3/36 system......? |
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| That thing looks great.
Congrats Mike |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | Nice looking ride!
Looks like lots of enjoyable hours in store for you.
S. |
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| Does this boat have the new electrical system.......? Is it wired for a 3/36 system......?
it comes standard wired for 12/24, however you can request a 36v system.
i'm running a 36v, 109lb thrust trolling motor on mine.
it's also pre-wired for 4 accessory units on the control pad, so hooking up electronics is very simple.
there's an additional 4 open slots on the electronics board as well if you really want to go nuts. |
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Location: Madison, WI | <drools> |
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| well it's about time we see that thing!
Looks pretty rooooomy...
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Location: Racine, Wi | How do the props handle rocks on that Suzi?? |
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Location: Eau Claire, WI | Nice looking ride Mike... ENJOY... |
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Location: menasha wi 54952 | Hi Mike,
Im a little curious as I am in the market for a new boat. I saw you out in Devils pitchin the shoreline. You were in the front by yourself and it appeared the 1760 was somewhat unstable and a bit front heavy???
How does the 1760 ride and fish compared to your old Ranger? Thanks for the info.
MR |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I can answer that from my own experience, I've owned several 1760 hulls. I found it to be very comparable to the Magnum in side to side stability, and not at all 'front heavy'. If the rear livewell is empty, there is no one else in the boat, and the operator is all the way in the bow, it will take a slight bow forward posture, but no more than a 20' model would. I'l shut up now and let lambeau post his findings. |
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Im a little curious as I am in the market for a new boat. I saw you out in Devils pitchin the shoreline. You were in the front by yourself and it appeared the 1760 was somewhat unstable and a bit front heavy???
How does the 1760 ride and fish compared to your old Ranger? Thanks for the info.
MR
hi mike, sorry for the delay in replying, i lost track of this thread.
i couldn't disagree more strongly with "unstable/front heavy"!
you're very close to the water in this boat, and i can move around anywhere without much change in the boat's posture at all.
keep in mind that there is a slight cant to the gunnel about mid-way up the front deck, which may give the appearance of a bow-down posture. it's styling (a bit i like) and the deck is dead flat when you're inside.
i fish alone a goodly amount, and stability is imporant to me. one of my favorite things is that when running the trolling motor the boat is quick/responsive, but not sloppy. when you let off the trolling motor, the boat doesn't overrun.
this weekend i fished a windy shoreline in waves big enough to pull my 50" trolling motor shaft out of the water. with a slight angle into the wind and smart trolling motor use we were able to hold our drift line with ease and cast without trouble. my 60-year-old father-in-law was very impressed by how stable the boat was in conditions that had the other boats fishing the lee shoreline. he was up on the rear deck casting away, even though he doesn't balance as well as he used to.
it's a big step above my old Ranger (1989 680T). bigger deck space front and rear, and just as close to the water in the capless version i've got. ride-wise it's much better, comparable speed and having a true deep-V hull means cutting the waves instead of slapping them. i do miss the side tanks so i could walk from front to rear without stepping down, but there's actually more storage (way more) in the 1760 and the spacious cockpit is great for comfortable riding.
i'm more than willing to give anyone a ride or spend a day fishing if you want to check it out and see for yourself how it works. drop me a line: [email protected]
i'll be fishing almost every night and all day on weekends in Wisconsin from July 6-16th.
then i'll be up in Bemidji/Detroit Lakes area from July 24th-August 3rd.
-m |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Now Lambeau,
There is one KEY element that you really screwed up on with that boat. Now only if you had put a Merc on that boat it would really be worth something. LOL, but nice rig anyhow. I'm just amazed on how much room there is in that boat, and how you could use your trolling motor to get around any lake with all the thrust you have on that trolling motor. LOL |
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| I noticed the trailer had a swing tounge on it. What is the overall length of the boat on the trailer? I want to see if it will fit in my garage.
Thanks |
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| actually....great choice on that motor. Spent a little bit of time being pushed around by a suzuki and I'll say that it was very very impressive. More impressive than the other "new" motors I've rode around in over the past year and there have been quite a few different brands. If a new boat or motor change is ever on my horizon the suzuki is going to get real strong consideration....this boat profiled here will get strong consideration also. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | What a BEAUTY! How much do you think they will retail for and when do they come out?? |
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| 1760 GT rigged with a 70hp Suzuki tiller, plus trailer with add-ons (brakes and swing tongue) will probably retail in the $24k range brand new (boat/motor/trailer).
talk to a dealer to get specifics on exact pricing and ordering.
http://www.tuffyboats.com/dealer.asp
like i said, if you're considering a boat, drop me a line either on site here or email: [email protected] and you're more than welcome to come out to do some fishing in this boat. |
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| lambeau
Will they be offering that boat with out the caps in a console and/or a full windshield versions and is there a esox version available? Chris |
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| yes, you can get the "G" (no cap) in Tiller (GT) or Console (GC) versions.
i'm not positive, but i assume the Dual Console (GDC) and Windshield (GDW) would also be available, Steve would know more about that for sure.
the difference between "Esox" and "Osprey" trimlines is simply the addition of a large rear, removable casting deck with gull-wing storage lids - so, yes, this is available in all console versions. |
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| Lambeau
What kind of top and cruising speed are you getting out of this combo? I'd be content with high 30's.
Do you have any experience/opinion of how the Yamaha F75 would compare....I really like the ergonomics of the yammy tiller handle compared to the others.
On the Esox model....does the drivers seat just mount/sit directly on top of the casting deck extension?
Thanks,
Justin |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Just to throw something out there, if you're looking at the 1760s, make sure to check out the 1700 model. I'm running a 1700 GC this year (no cap, consoled) with a 90hp Suzuki, and couldnt be happier. I've fished out of Lambeau's boat, and beyond losing about 2 sq. feet of cockpit space (because of the console) it is really hard to tell the difference in space between the two rigs.
At 8" shorter, the 1700 fishes basically the same as 1760. The front deck space is more than you'll ever need, and with the rear deck insert, there is more than enough space for a person to cast from. The boat fishes three comfortably, and has handled 3-4fters on Lake Michigan with no problem. Casting in the waves is stable, and without any chop its like you're standing on the dock.
The 90hp Suzuki is quiet as a church mouse when idling, and you can talk to your partners with a normal volume of voice even at full speed. It will troll down to 1mph, and runs at a full speed of 38mph with two people and a full tank of gas. She starts like a champ, and ran for 5 hours without a cough while trolling for salmon.
The 8' rod locker will fit about as many rods as you'll need for any week on the water (dont remember the exact number), and there is enough storage for any two people. A cooler sits up front, with a 50" livewell in back. The rear deck extension is a must for anyone considering a console model, as it not only gives rear casting deck space, but serves as a great storage place. Though not waterproof in back (it is everywhere else) it makes a great place to store PFDs, tools, rod holders, etc.
Note: with the capless model, the Scotty rod holders will work well with the clamp-on adapter. At least they worked for 5 hours trolling for salmon.
The main differences between the 1700 and 1760 is price and 8", which with a seperation of about $4K.
I will try to remember to take some pics of the rig tomorrow, when I'm out chasing fish with Esoxaddict and Pointerpride. If anyone is interested in a test ride/day on the water, please dont hesitate to email me ([email protected]), PM me to the site, or call me directly at 847/989-9271 |
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| my Suzuki has been perfect so far: quiet, smooth, dependable.
i don't have any experience with the Yamaha, but i know lots of people like them for the same reasons.
as for cruising speed: i'm consistently getting 30-31mph (gps) running at 5800 rpms which is not at WOT. with two people and a full load of gas (36 gallons! ~300lbs) it drops to about 29mph. we've been tweaking the prop to get the size/pitch right: first prop (13.5x19 steel) was too much, and my current prop (13.25x15 aluminum) is too small, and also beat up from some rocks. a 13.5x16 stainless steel is coming from Suzuki and i expect it will give me a bit better hole shot, and an extra couple mph due to being able to run 5800 rpms while at WOT, ie., it'll let me give it a bit more power without over-revving.
in the tiller version, the seat post is mounted to the floor on the starboard side, placed according to your preference. this seat precludes putting in the big deck extension. in theory, you could mount a seat on or through the deck extension, i did a home-made job of that myself on my old boat.
however, the tiller version does include an electronics box on the port side, which secures electonics, give access to the breakers and wiring, and extends your rear deck on that side of the boat.
even without the deck extension insert, there is more than enough rear casting deck space. the livewell runs across the beam between the tiller driver's seat and the splashwell, and the flat sides of the splashwell are coated with a non-skid surface so you can stand back there - giving you very close water access to either back corner of the boat plus plenty of room to move around.
i've got some overhead pictures taken from a balcony that i'll post when i get home tonight so you can see what i'm trying to describe. i'll also do some trailer length measurements and get those up. |
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| The main differences between the 1700 and 1760 is price and 8".
i'll disagree with Slamr slightly on this one.
the size difference isn't large (the 1760 is 8" longer and 1" wider), so they will fish basically the same.
the 1760 is also 2" deeper.
the biggest difference is power rating.
the 1700 is rated for 135 console / 60 tiller.
the 1760 is rated for 150 console / 75 tiller.
basically same size boat, but different power profiles. |
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| here's the pics i promised showing the rear-deck/livewell arrangement and the coated splash-well deck areas.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Did you hang over the side of your roof to take that last shot? And, I'm never messing with Nick the Guard Lab, he looks PISSED!
Excuse me, 2" of depth, 8" long, and $4K. |
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| it's Knick with a K.
and 15hp. |
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| Great pics. I'm liking this boat more and more. I like the finished look of the standard boats' gunnel cap but between the cost and weight savings I'm thinking the GT would be better for me. Splashwell layout is smart but I gotta tell ya, the livewell deck and elctronics box combination would provide ample space for me to cast from. And you don't lose the additional cockpit you would from the exox extension. Thanks for all the info! |
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| Knick's not pissed . He's just saying,"What are you doing out there without me.let me out" What are the floor dimensions on the 1760 and the 1700.How fast would the 1700 go with a 60 on it? |
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Location: Waukee, IA | Just wondering what the width on the trailer ends up being. I can't find the width on trailer at the tuffy website anywhere.
What is the width of the 1700 on trailer also. Anybody know?? |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I meant to do it last night, but will try to remember tonight to get the tape measure out for all those who are interested.
I will measure: walkable space (dimensions, you can work out the pythagorean theorum to figure out sq. feet), trailer width, nose of the swing away tongue to the tip of the back of the prop, with and without transom saver on.
Anything else people are interested in? Oh, I'll take some pics, too. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | The dimensions I was able to measure (need a bigger tape measure)"
Front Deck: 72.5" front to back edge X 72" wide
Back deck: 69" X 32"
And some pics....
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Location: Downers Grove, IL | Is that Muskie Mikes Shark Reel?? LMAO.... |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | For less than $50, the shark reel is good enough. Might get another one soon, they make good trolling reels. |
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| Slamr,
How do like that wireless motorguide trolling motor? I've been considering one, curious what you think of it.
Thanks
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Burrough,
I really like the wireless motorguide. Its simple to use (on/off, left/right, faster/slower buttons), but takes a little getting used to. Its much smaller and lower to the ground than any other foot control I've seen, and only has a constant on or off function, no pulsing like a lot of people used to use. The only negative I would say is the beaping that happens when you hit any of the controls. Its kind of loud, and annoying at first. Then you get used to it.
I've only gotten to use it about 15X so far, but its still working, though I obviously cant speak to overall longevity. The 75lbs more than moves my boat.....at the highest setting the boat pushes a wake. |
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Location: WESTERN WI | Lambeau, How is the rear casting deck for space? I like the tiller concept for space but the rear deck in the console versions are usually bigger. Are there drop in decks for tillers?
Just wondering how it functions, the front deck seems large enought for two to fish comfortably.
Edited by Got Esox? 7/21/2006 3:54 PM
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| looks like my 2003 esox magnum is gonna be for sale as soon as this boat is ready! |
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| i just back from a 2 week trip to MN including fishing Vermilion, Bemidji area, and Leech.
the 1760GT cuts waves like a champ and stays dry (had one pretty breezy night on Leech...honest 2 footers) and "sets" just as well at rest: we were casting without issue out in the waves. now, these weren't exactly 4 footers, but it's a 17.5' boat, and most people exaggerate wave height anyway, imho.
i kept asking my partners how it was fishing from the rear deck for extended periods day after day. all gave positive reports, saying they had plenty of room to move around and still be stable. i fished back there a couple times and felt like i was even closer to the water than up front since i didn't have to be running the trolling motor.
the front deck easily fishes two people. my wife fished up there with me, and she's a novice at casting. we never crossed lines. i also had my father-in-law all the way up front for awhile so he could have first water while i ran the trolling motor from deeper on the front deck. plenty of room for both of us casting long rods.
did alot of night fishing, i liked the combination of tons of storage and open layout of the tiller. it meant everything had it's place and there was no clutter tripping me up when netting a fish or sitting down to pick out a backlash (but no one ever gets those...right?). a full size Frabill fits perfectly in the cockpit area. the courtesy lights inside the livewell and rod locker, along the splashwell side in back and under the nav light up front are absolutely great.
Tuffy's adding some more features to new boats, including carpet edging to give it a nice finished look.
as for availability? visit a dealer and place an order!
http://www.tuffyboats.com/dealer.asp
or if you like, contact me - my boat is available at an outstanding deal (just so i can get another one!)
[email protected] |
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| Does the 1700 come with the new Digital switch pad? I really like that feature on the 1760. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The 2007 models do, yes. |
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| after crawling around inside the 1760GC (console) version last week at the Chicago show i was struck by the difference in the "feel" of the space between that boat and my GT (tiller) version of the same boat.
once i sell my '06, i've been considering a console version for next year (my wife wants to be able to go skiing), but i love and am very used to the wide open spaces of my tiller. the seating arrangement is different in the console, espc. with the Esox rear-deck insert putting the seats side-by-side instead of opposite corners of the cockpit like in the tiller version.
for those of you running console boats in this size category, where are you putting your net and muskie-sized tackle boxes?
i might just have to tell the wife that we're a "fishing" family, not a "skiing" family, and get another of my beloved tillers!
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| Lambeau, why put any seats in it besided the drivers seat? most guys don't mind sitting on the front deck or back deck...creates alot more room for the net etc...I only leave the drivers seat in my 690, granted a bigger overall boat but seats for the passengers just get in the way! |
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Location: WESTERN WI | Lambeau, you looked very nice in Tuffy's 2007 Catalog. Are you keeping your 1760 GT for next season?
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| why put any seats in it besided the drivers seat? most guys don't mind sitting on the front deck or back deck...creates alot more room for the net etc.
good point for most of the time.
i'm thinking more along the lines of when my wife is fishing with me, or my 60+ yr old father and father-in-law who'll be fishing with me on Green Bay or bigger MN lakes - when running bigger lakes in rough weather the seat makes all the difference in the world.
Are you keeping your 1760 GT for next season?
she's for sale, i'll be getting a new 1760, just trying to decide between tiller or console right now...
check it out in the classifieds:
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30...
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Location: Minnesota | I have an 05 1760 Esox and it hadles chop awesome. I fished out of an 06 Ranger once and to be honest I like the Tuffy comfort better. Just my opinion. |
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