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Location: Madison, WI | I recently bought a slammer glider, nice bait but not what i am looking for... It sinks to fast for a slow retrieve. Anyone out there have a suggestion for a glider that can be fished in 5 ft of water? I'm looking for something in a crappie pattern. I know i've seen some phantom crappies, do these lures suspend?
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Location: Racine, Wi | Grab an Undertaker and let her rip. You can do pretty much anything with these. You can glide 'em, fish 'em erratic, fish 'em on the top etc.
The slammers are great baits as well, so don't get rid of it, just use it in situations when you want to get a bit deeper, or fish it a bit faster. They are different from regular gliders, but do have their times. |
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Location: oswego, il | magruter, I have never had a problem keeping the slammer glider withing the 5' range. Are you working it extrememly slow? I actually have a problem with most gliders not getting below 5'. A viper is a good choice as you can put whatever size weight in you want to keep it where you want it to work. H2o tackle makes a floating nitro www.h2otackle.com that may suite you as well. |
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Location: Madison, WI | I was using it in the pool at the muskie show saturday and was constantly running on the bottom... Even the instructor had a hard time keeping it up. |
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Location: KY | I had the same problem with the one I had. too deep for me. I prefer Phantoms, Cobb's, & undertakers. |
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| I like Slammers, but they are a bit finicky. Some work beter than others, but find a good one and they are great. You can work them deeper, but also faster and sometimes that can be a real trigger. They are more eratic than a lot of gliders. Definitely do not get rid of them--keep them for certain situations.
Personally, I think the bait you want is a 6" Reef Hawg. Find one that floats with a little tail hang, then add a weight kit to the front with a very small weight to just give it a little hang time. Correctly weighted they will have a great glide and a slow rise that can really trigger.
Phantoms also can be worked a bit slower and do have better hang time. But remember they sink, and any sinking bait will eventually get down a bit. (Same thing with an Undertaker.) That's why a 6" Reef Hawg can be good. |
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Location: Des Moines IA | You could also try a perka by Beaver. I used one of Slamr's one day on Okauchee, real easy to work, doesn't sink too fast either. I just ordered the Black Diamond from Stan Durst Actually.
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| slidin' shad by musky magic. the best.
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Location: Right behind you (tap, tap) BOOO | MG5 hit the nail on the head, the MM Slidin' Shad would be my first choice. Others to consider, the Phantom, the Wabull or even the Dunwright Dancer.
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we'll get out together this spring and i'll give you a Muskie Treat to throw for awhile, i think you'll like it.
i caught my first fish last season on one out of 10" of water.
great action and wobble, hangs real nice, work it slow or fast. |
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Location: Right behind you (tap, tap) BOOO | good call on the Muskie Treat, can't wait to throw mine, either extreme phantom or the muskie treat will be the first bait to hit the water come the opener.
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Location: Madison, WI | sounds good! I picked up a phantom the other day, can't wait to get on the water to try it out!! |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | I wish I had the problem of a glider working deeper than 5'!
One I have really come to love is the Nitro from H2O Tackle. The 8" size is more like your typical glider with the long glides to the side.
I prefer the 7" size that you can work more erratic. Side to side is good for follows in my opinion, but get that baby to go up and down like the 7" and it gets eaten! The firetiger color is a hot one!
I haven't thrown the 6" size, so not sure what the action compares to.
You can check the Nitro's out at: http://www.h2otackle.com/nitro.shtml
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Hoosier Handmade baits.... Don has several different gliders(Potbelly Glider, Easy Glider and a couple 9" gliders) that will fit the bill for what you are looking for..... Also, Bikini Bait's, both the Beer Belly and Turmoil would be good choices...Jed(Bikini) has a great Crappie pattern, and Don(Hoosier Handmade) I thik may have more then one Crappie pattern to choose from(best to email him and ask to be sure) |
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| When I was fishing last week the only baits i could keep above the weeds were Musky Buster's Apealers and Trueglides. |
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| I would check this one out if I was you...fits the description fully...and he can make it neutral buoyant too
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7227273757&rd=1&...
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Location: Black Creek, WI | I feel your pain. I love glide baits that hang for awhile on the pause. Seems many real good gliders on the market today are over-weighted so you can work them more aggressively... but then they sink like a brick if you pause them. I like 'em to hover for a second or two before slooowly sinking. I tried some of Beaver's CASTORS last season and really liked the hang time.... and you could pop them pretty hard too without them blowing out. They are almost like a slower sinking H20 Nitro.
Lots and lots of choices out there for gliders these days. I wish they would give a sink rate for them so you know before you buy whether your gonna get a brick or a bobber. |
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Location: Freedom, WI | Jlong - How about a floating Nitro with a screw in weight insert to get the hang time you want. You do not think I would rest till I got it perfected did you. It was all in the type of WOOD. |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Roger, the screw in weight system is a great idea... as long as you can seal the insert so the lure doesn't take on water and split your clear coat.
Otherwise... perhaps a shallow and deep running Nitro would be yet another option to consider?
And Roger... you know me. When I want or need to get down deeper... I grab a crankbait. So gliders are generally a shallow and slow presentation for me.... but not everyone. I'm assuming this is what Magruter is looking for too???? |
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Location: Freedom, WI | Sealing the insert can be done easier when starting with bare wood. Ya I know you, you going to be at the C&R pool side you can see what I been building. Maybe we can do some trading?
Magruter - If you are interested in a floater drop me an email I could build you one. I do not have any made (just a few prototypes) so it could take me a bit to make it though. |
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Location: WI | I fish the WI River the majority of the time so I know what you are going through. Most of the lures I sell are countdown but on the river I use the floating version of my SG8 countdown the most. You can work it right below the surface with a slow cadence or get it down to 3-4' if you pick up the pace a tad. The floater is made of Cedar instead of Maple on my countdown which give the lure a bit more roll and shake at the end of the pull.
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Location: Madison, WI | Oh nice looking bait!!
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| I agree with the 6" Reef Hawg. You can find them cheap now that everyone keeps cycling baits through their boxes for the new stuff. I have a 6" and 8" and love them both. Not so much a true "walk-the-dog" glider but I think the hang time mixed with the up/down, side-to-side action sets it apart from others. I've worked them really slow before without a problem and raised fish on them. You won't be disappointed. I have a Salmo Slider also and it is so finicky that it's not worth the time to throw. I recently picked up a Hell Hound but haven't had a chance to throw it yet. I'll let you know how it is once the ice is gone.
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| Another vote for the Reef Hawg. Just a great bait that can be worked at many different depths depending on how you custom weight it. I'm looking forward to throwing the new one with the Bull Dawg tail. |
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Location: Appleton,WI | I throw a solid suspending rubberHairy gill glide...slow sinking,hangs,and a good side to side walk.
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