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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | What is your preferance as a client: Guides working from the front of the boat or back?
I like to run my boat from the back with a extention to my front trolling motor. I do this for a number of reasons.
1st) I like to put my clients on the first water, the uncasted spots.
2nd) Its easer for me to watch everything from the back when working two or three clients. I will put the most experianced client in front and work side by side with the other client to make sure they are doing everything properly.
The feeling a client gets as he/she works from the front of the boat is so close to working it themselves. The graph is at your feet, the trolling motor works the boat to the desired distance from the structure, they bring in the casts and set up the figure 8's so the backup fishermen can get a shot at the fish, if it will not commit to the first person. ect...you get the point.
Also the second and maybe the third client can watch, learn and work between the most experianced sticks.
I just like to keep a eye on everything without looking back all the time to see how clients are doing. This is just my views, I know of a lot of great guides that can work a boat from the front and keep the clients on new water.
It's all about boat control.
What are your views as possible cients?
How about some views from other guides, what are some of your methods?
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Location: Madison, WI | Me personnally, i'd like to fish out of the front... I don't get to fish out of the front very often, and any chance i get i'd take it. It's easier to figure 8, can cast to either side of the boat, some boat you have the standing seat. |
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| You never fished from the back when I went out with you! |
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Posts: 1996
Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I always guide from the back. The only time I get on the front deck is under extreme weather conditions (high wind). I feel I can get better boat control from the front deck under these conditions.
When I am on the back deck, I can keep an eye on both clients at the same time. I can help both clients at once with some of the finer points of the cast/retrieve/structure. I also have the ability to watch both baits as they come to the boat too, often times picking up follows that may have otherwise gone undetected.
When I am not guiding, you are hard pressed to get me off the front deck! |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | For me its more a question of who gets to work the prime spot first, not where do I stand in the boat. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | And Luke would know, being that he has blanked from all corners of all different sizes of boats.
Me: are you taking a time out?
Luke: yes, I dont like this spot. |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | Ok, here is another question:
I am not a guide, but i am looking to set up my boat in a similar fasion, so that Lori, and others can fish out of the front. I fish many different waters throughout the year, so I do not get as familiar with the waters, like you guides are with your home water. Lori loves watching the LCD, so I'm thinking that the one running on the front must stay up front. How would I be able to run the trolling motor from the back, while "flying blind"? I do run another finder off of the back, but by the time I see that I have to turn in or out, it's already too late, right?
Edited by muskynightmare 2/22/2006 2:50 PM
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| I only fished with a guide once. It was a wedding present.
I told him that he could fish, and he said said "No, Thank-you".
He sat at the console drinking coffee, shooting the breeze and taking us from spot to spot with my wife up front and me on the back deck.
First week of October, 30 degrees, bluebird skies......I told him that we could quit after half a day because we were heading further north anyway. He said that we were going to try one more spot. He moved along a reed bed that had cabbage out in front of it, and we all saw a swirl off the bow. My wife's Suick landed on the head of a 43"er, she ate it. and we took some pictures and then went and had chili. A very good day. Those long cable trolling motors make it easy for the guide to control the boat and allow 2 people to fish with ease.
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Rob,
You would have to have a extention on you foot pedal or if you have cable steer you might have to add another graph or trolling motor on the back.
I like to use my Lowrance X15 on the console while working my trolling motor from the back deck. I have a 20ft extention I can move anywhere in the boat. I have a lowrance 350A on the bow that the clients can watch so they can learn how I work the weed edges.
Rob, if your ever down my way, call me, we will get out and stck some fish, it's one me. |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | Hey Mike!
The cord on my Power drine is long enough to run it from the back.
Thanx for the generous offer! I'm hoping I have time this year to take you up on it!
Rob and Lori. |
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Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN | I to guide from the back of the boat, it just works better for me. I have X15's both on the bow and the counsel. They are easy to see from my seat and the rear X 15 has the new lakemaster softwear. so I can very easily follow any of the contours we may be fishing.
Alot depends on what boat you have. Mine doesn't have a real large front deck. I have fished with the
Mad rocker in his 2025 lund many times and he always stands up front, because he has the room.  |
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Posts: 1188
Location: Iowa | I don't consider myself a muskie guide by any means but anytime I have someone new in my boat I always fsh from the back...that's what the long cord on the trolling motor pedal is for...otherwise when I fish with my dad and buddy I am pretty much in the front of the boat in my boat...
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Posts: 2089
| I do both.I run an 80 Maxxum on the bow(cable steer) and an 80 Vantage on the stern.The main reason I went with the Maxxum is the durability of the mount.IN MY OPINION,the electric steer mounts may have been a problem running in 3 footers all season.Headed off potential issues at the pass.I can't afford to be off the water when it's my business.I wish someone would make a cable steer with 20' cable.I give my clients the option.Some have chosen the back of the boat because of wind/wave issues.Friends and clients catch plenty of fish from the back of the boat.It's all in the boat control. Steve |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Both. My situation is unique in that I am often fishing heavy current, in very shallow rocky water. I often need to be up front to see what is coming. Also, in those conditions, I often have to make quick turns, and sometimes do hit rocks. I would rather have the person with me, fall off the back deck into the bottom of the boar, rather than out the front or side. Often times I need to make a 90 degree turn or sharper, and if I don;t warn the person, it makes them lose balance on occasion. My wife loves to fish out of the front, but she(or anyone) would rather be in back in the rivery stuff. When fishing the boring stuff(anything without current...LOL), I take the back. |
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Guiding from the front or the back of the boat?