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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Everyone has had time on their hands over the Winter months to think of their tactics for the new Season just around the corner.
Has anyone thought of what they would like to see and use in new color combos this year?
New ideas always help to show the fish something different.
Edited by Stan Durst 1 2/13/2006 8:22 AM
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Location: Iowa | Something that is unique to the muskie world...some sort of color that is just way out there but could be considered one of the better colors known to the world of muskie fishing...some sort of irradesent purlpe like the finish of some of the reels that are being made know in the Cabelas and Bass Pro Catalogs would be cool if it could be replicated...similar to the color on the reel in this post...
Big Perc
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Big Perc,
Been doing that for a few years now.
My very first custom color in that design field was the Durst Purple Daze and it has caught many fish. Now I have many color changing effects and combinations that I put on lures and at this monent am working on brand new styles that I will be bringing out soon. They are in the "rough" now.
The one shown is the "Infinity"
I changed the picture with one with out the flash so it can be seen better.
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Location: New Baden IL | Teeth Marks, and a lot of them!
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Location: Marshfield, WI | Here are two more baits painted by Stan. It is hard to see the color change in a picture though. The top one also has that same irridescent purple of the Infinity. Once I caught my biggest fish on this pattern on a Top Raider.
Krishna
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Stan, I'm into the natural forrage colors....the more realistic the better. Rapala has an awsome walleye and shad pattern for thier huge Shad Rap. I'm still waiting for a company to come out with a realistic Tad Pole pattern. Rainbows and stripes are for Nascar, give me a real looking bait anyday. |
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Location: On my favorite lake! | <p>A glider that was chromed like a rattle trap. </p> |
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| Some nice paint jobs there but I think lure action is far more important than color, of course there are times when color matters but it comes second on my list of priorities. |
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| Oh my God, I'd go nuts if you could do chrome a lure like Lightening suggested! |
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| Be patient boys. There are some new color shifting and chrome enhanced products out this year, but first there must be some experimenting done. They are made for metal, now I have to see how they'll take to wood.
Watch for different pearls and chromes and more.
I feel like a mad scientist sometimes.
Beav
Edited by Beaver 2/13/2006 6:21 PM
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| Stan,
Did you mean... Which color patterns would I like to see? Or did you mean... Which lures would I like to see you add to your line-up?
Which particular lures do you keep an inventory of blanks? Depth Raiders? Jakes? What other ones? I can't remember your web address or else I would look it up myself. I would like to have some mantas custom painted, as well as some crank baits. Specifically looking for a pattern with a lot of blue / silver.
How would you do a manta? Do you have access to unpainted blanks, or would I have to send you one to have stripped down before starting over with a new paint job?
Please provide more details as well as your web address.
Thanks,
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| I would just like to see your website operational. |
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Gander Mnt. Guide,
I do natural colors as well. As soon as I down size some of my photos I will send you the pictures. Send me a PM with your email addy.
Lightning, put up a picture so I can see what you mean.
DaveG,
I find that color DOES mean somthing more than people believe.
Esox50, I am into chrome pigments now and am experimenting with the appilcation process. It will add considerable time to painting a lure as it can't be rushed. Tried that already and rushing just won't do.
Beav hit it on the head, I have been working with the Chrome pigments on plastic with good success and am trying it on wood now. When I get them ready, I will post pictures for you all to see.
jackpotjohnny48,
I mean both if that helps, I order the blanks as my orders come in, it's get pretty exspensive to tie up a lot of money ahead on blanks.
I would do a Manta anyway you want it as long as it doesn't interfer with any of Pauls colors. The same with any blanks. As soon as Beav gets ahead I will have get a few of his too. Beav makes some good stuff not to mention his painting abilities to go with it.
My site is down for now. But I can email pictures. |
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Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie | Don't tell anyone but I have done well on Table Rock shad. Purple back/ chart sides. If you paint this color- I hope to get a discount on your baits. Keep me in mind. Good Luck- I can't reveal the watermelon shad pattern I got done in California. Both are awsome colors.
Edited by basscaster 2/14/2006 11:31 AM
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Location: Lafayette, IN | Stan,
Can you say, "Purkinje Shift?"
Very cool color on that first pic. I'd be smokin' that baby in dark skies for sure.
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| I can't go into detail, but you guys are all in for a treat this year when it comes to things that you and the fish have never seen before. Like Stan mentioned, the one thing that all of these new products have in common is the amount of extra time that is needed to do it right. There are some new and wonderful variations coming out, and they will even make natural patterns appear more natural. Enhanced light gathering and light dispersing agents that take extra time to apply and to cure. But once the experimenting is done.......I'm glad to say that Stan and I will both get to "play" with these new toys....you guys will either be blown away, or snort and turn up your noses at them. If you don't believe that color helps to catch fish, or at least gets and maintains their attention, then you won't be impressed. When I first saw the effects I knew that I had to have them and I had to put them on some wood with some hooks hanging off of it. The real jury is slimy and green or brown or striped or spotted. They will be the ones who decide if the new effects that they see will be to their liking........but I have have a hunch that they will find it very appealing.
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| Easy answer:
Tie Dye
Chucke as you choose, but a tie dye in various color combos makes complete sensi to me.
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | So far we only have a couple color ideas and we have had over 700 people look at this thread. Now that is 700 brains out there besides Beav and myself. Our brains get tired after a while.
We not only paint patterns that we ourselves design but also "tweak"them to your specks. Every body of water in every State has it's own make up in the food chain. Getting ideas from other people, is a little like fishing these different bodies of water to find good colors that will work in them. That is the idea behind a custom painter, "to paint what a customer wants".
To Stephendawg;
The purkinje shift was discussed on this board pretty heavy a couple years back. Jason Long as well as others , if my old mind is right, got into it very deep.
That is what is happening in a lot of cases right now with the color shifting products.
For example; the "Infinity" shown above, the top color shifts thru green, blue,violet,purple,and gold, while the gold lateral line shifts from gold to icy teal to silver, and th lower color shifts from purple to orange. The belly remains the same.
This, like Krishna said, cannot be seen in a picture. And the beauty behind this color shift is that it works in strong light AND low light. In low light the colors are deeper in tone.
Your ideas don't have to change color, we just need to know what colors you would like to see come out on the market.
So don't hesitate to post you color ideas as you may miss some good action if you don't.
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| Stan, I would like to see a sucker pattern that really looks like a sucker!
TOM |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | Yeah Stan, that was one of the most interesting threads I'd read in a long time. It prompted me to do a lot of reading on the side about the way color translates into brightness depending on light conditions. Something I think about every time on the water now.
Keep those great colors and paint jobs commin'. |
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Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin | i am new to painting lures only have done it for 2 months. a only been musky fishing for 2 years i love all the info i get off the site it is very helpful for people just starting out. this is my first crome one that i have done. not to bad for first time around. it has some marks a some bubbles in the paint and the wood. just wanted to see how it would set up and hold on the wood.
mic
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I think the one major factor in having a bait custom painted or buying one that's already custom painted is that there's a good clear coat protecting it. I don't see the purpose of having a bait painted if it needs to be repainted in a season.
I've never had baits painted by Stan or Mike, but I had a few painted by Beave and they're gorgeous and coated nicely. Stan, what do you use for a clear coat? |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | Fever,
I think Don Slagle has a great "Sucker" pattern. One of the best I've ever seen at least. Check out some of his colors as well as Stan's and Beav's. There's a lot of good work out there if you just look for it.
Here's Don's link.....
http://hoosierhandmademuskybaits.com/index.html |
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Location: Madison Wi. Chain | I don't always look for the most realistic looking bait. I like colors that exagerate some feature of the biatfish. For example a shad colored bait exagerates the blue hue of a real shad. Or a perch color with a bright orange body or black stripes a sucker might have a contrasting brown body and white belly. a wallaye pattern might have a big white spot on the end of the bait. I also like some red on a bait that might be indicative of the gills of a real fish. BG |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA | White with black stipes. High contrast.
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Location: Pigeon Forge TN. | Gander MT Guide;
I Use a top quality two part eurathane ( if I spelled it right) and use several coats. It has been tested to 7 times the salt content of Sea water and it will NOT react to the oils and substance that the rubber products are made of. I also use, at times and when requested, envirotec.
As for the ideas listed so far, I am checking into them now. I am working on a couple very special requests at this time off and on as I get time, but I will get at the color ideas and see what I can come up with.
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