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| I am picking up some gliders. I wonder what is your favorite and why for the season that is left. I know they work all year. It seems that more guys throw them in the fall, why is that? |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22... |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | water temps. move lower and fish move a bit slower .... my favorite is the mr. automatic. the sucker or whitefish colors are pretty versatile .... a little tough to learn, most fish 'em too fast. slow walk-the-dog cadence with a long glide ... got this fall fatty last year
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| Thanks that is what I was looking for. Still sort of surprised that gliders are a fall thing to lots of people. Wouldn't they be just as good all year? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | gliders are great for the whole year. i use them 80% of my casts. there is alot of archived information on this site you should consider finding that really details presentation and techniques for all varieties of gliders. cadence is key and the selection options for gliders covers all the ranges.
people that know me understand that my version of a burning a bucktail is my reef hawg worked quickly. i love gliders and put them into 5 categories
1. walk-the-dog (eddy bait type) ... my favorite is mr. automatic
2. up and down (suick type) ... my favorites are suick, bobbie, weed warrior and sandcat
3. erratic (reef hawg type) ... my favorite is reef hawg
4. drop-belly ... my favorite is the mania one i forget the name
5. plastic (bulldog type) ... bulldawg ... i'm just becoming a believer and a newbie here
there are a zillion choices in each of the categories and everyone has their own "favorites" .... i'll work each one throughout the season depending on the water and pattern i'm faced with or whether the fish are hot and moving or neutral or negative. because i fish this category of baits so much .... it's why i believe so much in movement and cadence over color. i wish i had my favorites in a ton of colors to pick from, but as you will find out there are baits you develop confidence in because of their motion that come out of the box during critical times.
not a bad idea to buy a blackish one of each of these types of gliders and just focus on learning to work them first. gliders aren't everyone's favorites, but if they are, it's hard to put anything else on the line. |
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Location: Iowa | 10" Hughes River Hughey Leopard sucker color...it goes about 2 feet on the swings...extremely great slow glider with a huge profile...I love that bait...
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| Gliders work great all season long, but they are most effective it seems when the water temps start to cool.
My friends and I have so many gliders we often wonder why we keep getting more. Plain and simple, no matter what the cost, they work.
I highly recommend Hoosier Handmade Gliders and Beer Belly Gliders, but you can't go wrong with Castors, HR Shakers, Magic Makers, Undertakers, Slammer Drop Belly Gliders, Phantoms, or several others |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I like glidebaits in the fall, but rarely use them in the summer. I tend to use quicker moving (search) baits in the summer taking advantage of the fish's higher activity level. The more area I can cover effectively in the summer, the better the odds of contacting an active fish.
I also tend to shy away from gliders in the summer because they are notoriously bad hookers. Give me a straightline running bait like a bucktail when the fish are active in the summer and on the move. |
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Location: Seymour, WI | I do not think that gliders are bad hookers. All the fish I've seen hit gliders seem to get it in the corner of the mouth. Fish can shake them on jumps because they tend to be heavier baits, but I think they are excellent hookers.
My favorite gliders are Nitros, Muskie E drop belly gliders and Reef Hawgs.
Grass, |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i'm with Norm in the camp of gliders being tough hookers ... you gotta move the bait through the teeth to get hooks in unless you're lucky enough to have the fish turn and hook itself. i would believe there are more fish lost on gliders than any other bait type .... of course this doesn't include the pull the topwater away from the musky trick so many are guilty of. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Sled...you keep lurking on this topic any longer you're gonna be called the Thread Stalker.
Gliders are a thing of beauty, but there is alot more lookers than takers. Fast action on your gliders can trigger reaction strikes, those are the ones that usually end up in misses. Slow swings followed by a pause and a quick tap has worked well for me. I believe the the slower you work a glider, the more a Musky sees it, so for me, more natural colors seem to work best.
Personally, I love Undertakers, Cobbs Round Nose Countdowns, Musky Magic Ignitors and 6" Smuttly Dogs. |
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Location: Appleton,WI | I thrown my own Gill glides,Havent had problems with fish throwning the baits. |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Ace Sweet Shad 150. Awesome glide, great belly roll, suspends on the pause. You can get it to really jump around and have some erratic action as well. I just bought one a couple months ago. I knew before I even tried it on musky waters that it was going to be a tremendous bait just by seeing what it does in the water. In two months, it's now my favorite jerkbait, hands down. Affordable too, at under $20.
Aaron |
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| The colder it gets, the more I go for lures that swing wider so I can use a slower retrieve with more time between snaps. I also like gliders that are neutrally buoyant or sink at a very slow rate because I like to work more pauses in. Speed rate and sink rate can really pay off in the cold water season because it gives the fish ample opportunity to hit the lure without missing it or chasing it.
There's something awesome about watching a glider reach the end of it's swing and just hang there for a couple of seconds, when all of a sudden a big fish rolls on it and swallows it.
The older I get, the slower the presentation gets.
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| I use gliders pretty regularly. In my tackle box there will almost always be at least one of each of these: Smuttly Dog, Slidin' Shad, Undertaker, Phantom. Others that also get in the game on a pretty regular basis: Manta, Jerko/Squirko, Slammer, Cobb's.
Some of these are because of the specific action of the bait and some just because of a color pattern preference or confidence factor. |
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Location: oswego, il | I had some fish up this past weekend on MuskieE's gliders. Great baits.
I find in the fall, muskies tend to hit vertical and do the swipe. It is a one shot deal normally. With a glider's side to side pausing style, the bait just seems to give a fish or have more opportunites for a fish to hit it in that fashon than do other baits. |
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Location: lansing, il | gimmie a few hellhounds and cobb crazyshad countdowns and im set!!!!! im with sled its a year round thing for me as well!!! easy on that "stalker" phrase gmg it appears i have one!!! yikes!!! |
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| gliders work best with teeth marks, rust and hook rash .... also helps to have an eye or two knocked off .... the pretty ones look nice on the deck and hanging in the boat though .... play nice out there. |
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| I will also go with Reef-Hawgs and second the Hellhounds! I feel these baits are superior hookers and remember that just cause its fall, does not always mean SLOW!
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| I've been doing real good on a brand new glider made by Jack Cobb. It's called the Divorce Maker. This is an awesome big fish bait. Eight inches long. Big, erratic swing and wobble. Jack says they will be out this winter.
Jim Stroede |
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| Golden Walleye Amma Bamma or the Sumblin Drunk |
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| I was wondering if anyone has a contact number for Jack Cobb??
Thanks
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Location: NW WI | I'm the monkey on LSD!!! I've done very well on a Manta and find it very easy to fish and very, very effective! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The Perka is my go to this fall. I can make that bait do whatever I want, and it'll hook well due to the flat body profile. Look out, Queen, I have your number...
Norm, want to net her for me?? |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Steve,
I would be honored, I just want to be in the same boat with her!! Don't really care who catches her! |
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| Norm, make him share, I know that I sent him more than one. 
I might have to make a trip up there Steve. Not going to bowhunt until November
so I might be able to get up there between hockey games.
Beav |
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| Salmo Sliders are great & very easy to work. I also like Mantas. |
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Fall favorite, Gliders