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| If you catch a trophy and have it mounted is that your one for possesion? What if you get a bigger trophy later on and want to have it mounted? |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA | get a replica |
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Location: Minnetonka , MN. | Look at a 10year old skin mount . what a wast of money. My wife has already told me no fish on the wall!!!!!  |
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| first off, your question doesnt even make sence.
If the musky possession limit is one fish, per angler, per day, then you can only have one in your possession per day.
if you keep a musky and mount it (not from behind, but on the wall) and two years later you catch a bigger one, yes, you can keep that one too. Posession limits are normally per day,per angler. not a life time limit. You can kill a musky every day if you want. most places the limit is one musky per day, per angler that is over the minimum length requirements. (lenght requirements are different for each lake, so know what the size limit is)
geeze...Markr, you are good pot stirrer.
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| I believe what you are asking is is the fish mounted on your wall considered part of your daily bag or possesion limit. I would say no as acording to the DNR (WI) if the game is procesed then it is not considered towards you possesion limit. Say if you have geese ground up into sausage (yummy!) they do not count towards your possesion limit and you can go shoot more.
The problem I have with replica mounts is the cost. Can someone explain to me why it cost so much more for a replica when there is no skinning, tanning, etc. involved. Basically the order a form and have to paint it. Do the forms cost that much more and if so why? |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | The replicas come in parts that have to be assembled then adhered together and painted. The don't come in one big form.
Edited by Gander Mt Guide 4/6/2005 3:15 PM
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| i think it's likely that with replicas you're also paying for the artistry involved. it's a valuable skill.
when you think about how long it will last, how much better it looks, and the fact that it saves a fish...it's really not all that expensive. save up for two years and you can still have a replica made - can't do that with a dead fish.
if you want something in the meanwhile while you're saving up for your replica, check this out:
http://www.customfish.com/
whether a mounted fish counts towards "possession" is ridiculous. No.
however, there are many places where fish in the freezer DO count towards your posession limit. ie., possession limit is a very different thing that daily bag limit. (for example, Canadian possession limits on walleye and pike) |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Reelman,
Yes, replica's take a lot more to make. Creating and maintaining the mold is a huge expence. Then they basicly have to manufacture the fish using different heads, bodies and tails to get the fish as close as possible to your fish. Then painting.
When you figure the difference in cost is about $3-$4/inch and the fact that a replica will last for your lifetime, I think it's worth the extra $100.
We did the math one night and we figure that with the cost of stocking fingerlings and the yield of 50" fish per stocking class. We figured that each 50" fish cost $3000-$5000/each. Now when you figure the extra cost to get a replica vs. skin mount, the replica is a real value. |
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| Muskytreats, $3 to $4 per inch and a 50" fish equals $150 to $200, not $100. I assume that you're not going to get a 30" fish mounted.
O.K. so there is more work involved in the manufacture and assembly of the form. I am still curious as to the amount of hours of work it takes compared to the time it takes to skin and tan a fish.
I have always been under the impresion that the taxidermy profesion has been taking advantage of the catch and release mentality and charging more. I should say that when I say the Taxidermy profesion I really mean the manufactures making the forms, not the actual taxidermists. |
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| well...that's kind of like the people complaining that there's no "deals" at the muskie shows and that vendors are "taking advantage" of the fishermen being there with cash to spend.
we live in a free market. by it's nature it's impossible for a seller to take advantage of a buyer who does not have to buy the product. if the prices were too high, the replica artists would go out of business...or lower their prices. the market always finds that balance point.
does that mean things will always be as affordable as we'd like them to be? no. if your means are less, you might have to save up a bit longer for the extra $200 to get a replica instead of skin mount. compare that to the amount of cash sunk into lures or gear or boats every year...
WELL worth it!!! |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | From what I've heard it takes a more time to get everything smoothed out and natural looking. The real cost is in creating and maintaining the mold. I think I heard the mold cost about $1000 to make and then maintainance from there on is extra. If I remember right the guy that was speaking said he could only get about 20 fish per mold before it needed to be reworked. I could be wrong about the numbers though.
So if you take the extra time involved, the materials and tooling costs away the costs are very similar. The quality of the end product is much different though!
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Location: Rhinelander, WI | Just a side note both Joe Fittante and Ron/Rick Lax, two of the premier musky taxiderists have set the price of skin mounts and replicas to the same, in an effort to encourge catch and release.
Another thing to think about if you plan to keep the mount forever, it will surly cost you more to have the mount reconditioed 15 to 30 years down the road when it starts looking bad. The replica will look the same forever.
Nail a Pig!
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Possesion limit