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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OK, reply to this thread until Zach can figure out what's happening wth the original.
Here's where we are...
You found the key once, you mentioned it too, now here is what you need to do:
Read the posts, the right ones, the winners, look for the source that got you to there, find me the source and I'll give you the clues to locate the winning item, it'll be easy for you!
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Steve, you should do a Geo Cache..that would be fun |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | The keys as I see them are;
Esox Research Company and Esox Angler Magazine
Most of the people and products we have found have something to do with one
or both of those.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | F L P as suggested by I.F. mag in Dick's Muskies on the Shield. Since the other half of the thread isn't working still maybe try these too...
Rocks
Rock Walls
Deep Reefs as in why Betsy was weighting her bobbies
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | SO now you've given up, right when you're close to solving the riddles and putting in a post the winning ifo, the item Riddler seeks, now get your fanny guessing or this will take WEEKS!! |
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| A Betsy Pearson custom Jake
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Chicago Muskie Show - It looks like they'll all be there.
Pete Maina - seems to have fished with everyone in the clues and is connected with EA. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | YOU HAD THE ITEM GUESSED, IT WAS POSTED BEFORE, IT WAS MENTIONED AGAIN, BUT THROUGH ANOTHER DOOR. TELL ME exactly what I now seek, and the item we then seek will be found this next week! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | The new In-Fisherman DVD featuring Dick Pearson and Doug Johnson fishing the NW Angle of LOTW called "Secrets of the Muskie Masters"?
Chicago Musky Show Dick Pearson Presentation Sunday 12:00 PM ~ Dick Pearson--"Save your Day - Think Current"
Muskies on the Shield - tHe book.
Lawyer
Lake Tri-Esox
Next world record
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ERC Triple D
ERC Grinder
Esox Research Company which the Pearson's are part of with Matt Gawlik
Pearson Perch Pattern Custom Triple D
Betsy Pearson's wedding ring
Betsy Pearson's fishing hat
Betsy Pearson's husband, Dick Pearson
Betsy Pearson, the lure doctor
Betsy Pearson's customized lures like Bobbies and Jakes
"The Think Card"
Camp Fish
FLP EA |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Mud splatters, from here on out EXACT matters. One has it, so post the cake, not the batter. ONE guess at a time, if you want the bell to chime.  |
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| Frank Walsh's Bay Store Camp Resort, my NW LOTW base camp where I have fished with Mr. Dick Pearson! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Chicago Musky Show Dick Pearson Presentation Sunday 12:00 PM ~ Dick Pearson--"Save your Day - Think Current" |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Lake Tri-Esox |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Next world record |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Muskies On The Shield, the book which I have personally signed my Dick!
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Steve Crook
Team Musky Nut
OK, you have it, now what does Riddler seek? Open the pages, take a good peek; you have all the clues, now find what you need, this item will eventually lead to the final prize award deed!
One more than two times anything. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Mentioning color, the ERC baits and Muskies on the Shield. One common thread in all of them is Jlong. He has a cameo in MOTS about color and was very involved with ERC.
Jlong????? |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | F L P .... Fish Location Presentation
Again, not what you throw, but where you throw. |
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F- Fish
L - Location
P - Presentation
E - Enthusiasm
A - Appreciation |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | One less than two times anything. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | 2 - 1 = 1
1 x anything = anything
anything = fish = muskie = muskie first |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | anything = location |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | anything = presentation |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | 2x-1
2n-1
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 2 times anything plus 1, then! |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | It sounds like some kind of equation? Don't have the book with me right now to see what equation it may be. The only one I remember is the F + L + P = S |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I also remember Dick talking about the common denominator between all good fisherman and women being that the all mastered the fundamentals so maybe success = fundamentals? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | This clue has nothing to do with the book; the formula the Riddler offers, you need to give a good look. If you take anything times two, subtract or add one, what do you get? Come on, this is FUN! |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | An odd number? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Norm, you have it, you have it, you do, now find what the Riddler wants, what he wants you to do! Odd number for what, that's the question now! Go back a few clues and define, good answer, gee, wow! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Look for the answer in the ones that won, then take the opposite, and begin the fun of finding the number, numerical, that is, that will find the winning object and prove you to be a Scavenger Riddle Wiz!
The answers to the clues so far:
Red
Hooks
DDD
3D in Chicago, 2 D in Esox Angler and Musky Hunter
DD
Dick Pearson
NW Angle
Doug Johnson
Betsy Pearson
Muskies On The Shield, the book which I have personally signed my Dick!
Odd number
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | 12, 11 clues plus this one = 12 |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | I will guess the magic # is 3
Three primary Colors
Three hooks on a treble hook
DDD
Dick, Doug and Betsy
Seems to be a pattern.
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Location: Alexandria, MN | I think their have been a total of 13 answers?
also the world record is made of odd #'s 69-11 or Lawton's fish 69-15
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The answer Norm had was a good one, OK? Let's look at that answer and the other right ones and let's make some hay! Odd number you say, what has one of those. The answer, my friends, is in front of your nose!! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | A 103 key keyboard. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | 25 messages per page! BTW, how do I turn my hay into gold |
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FIRST(S) is my guess then I will attempt to explain. Or maybe '15' on a calender(answer in end)
Red-'Primary'- Which has a KEY place among all that guessed correctly
I am not certain if you are looking for a FIRST or Primary for hooks, but could link together FIRST hooks, then Red hooks
As in the DDD which was FIRST and 'Primary' then the DD came along as opposite or as a similar.
Dick Pearson which I believe to be FIRST and/or Primary then as opposites Betsy Pearson or Doug Johnson as similars.
As far as the correlation between NW Angle and/or Doug Johnson were as similars as above, or if it was part of the hunt.
Then, Muskies on the Shield THE BOOK which was FIRST and/or Primary then Similar or opposite is 'MUSKIES ON THE SHEILD, THE VIDEO, DVD'! Final answer!
Tomarrow the '15th'(which you may of been looking for) of December is when they start mailing out the VIDEO's to the public I believe, because I ordered one.
Close, or have I barked up the wrong tree?
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| #5 Mepps Musky Killer, one of my best baits of all time along with a Suick |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The Triple DDD is an odd number and the Double DD is even.....the Double DD! |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Musky = 5
Muskies = 7
www = 3
www.muskiefirst.com = 17 (or 19 if you count the dots)
That's all I got. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Grind up some wood, what's made from that's good! |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Paper? 5 letters?
mulch, money, chips all five letter ideas.
Pages also 5 letters, made from paper and there are paper pages in the book.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Pages and Paper, both are just right, now find the Riddler's page, it's the way to the light! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Pages and Paper, both are just right, now find the Riddler's page, it's the way to the light! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Page 78, Dick talks about Doug and his wife Betsy. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Page 117 - The Think Card - an odd number and it summarizes the crucial points of the book |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Muskyboy has it right. Betsy and her fish will with a few clues point to the final nfo we need and seal this thing, at the end of the tunnel we see the final ligtht!
The Riddler now asks you to tell him someting not fishing, like the journalistic requirements of the story to get a reporter's report published instead of just wishing! |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | editorials? |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | the 5 w's
who, what when, where, why |
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago | a news story to tie the story to... a news hook. |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Evidence to back up the story, examples?
Facts, sources and footnotes.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | An ability to write well.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | An editor/publishing house willing to publish the story. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | A ghost writer or assistant who writes the story that you tell. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Original |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | A strong knowledge of the subject matter. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | A willing and receptive audience. |
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| A concept, like Dick's original In-Fisherman article on the Canadian Shield, what got the book and video started! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Is it newsworthy? |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Bibliography |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Do not infringe on copyrights. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | While all the others round him snooze, a reporter knows he'll never lose if he's got a nose for news! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OK, lets refine the clue that was mine, the Riddler asks what the letters might that direct a good journalist to write the story correctly, perfectly tight??
Journalism students??? Give us the answer...
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | All the news thats fit to print. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Some principles of newswriting you must apply every time you attempt to put words on paper include accuracy, brevity, clarity, coherence, emphasis, objectivity and unity. |
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago | inverted pyramid |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Associated Press Stylebook |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | out2llunge is close, so very close he is, but the story line is structured by the (23) IN THE BIZ!
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Always a bridesmaid, er, groomsman |
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago | ### or -30-????
That's put at the end of copy to denote the end of the story. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | “the journalist's bible.”
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"Writing copy requires the ability to make a smooth transition from one point to another. Rather than laying them out like a list, learn to use transitional words. Transitional words are used to go from one point to another."
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | The AP Guide to Punctuation.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | 23?? Come on, guess me!!! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | W |
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago | author... page 23 in the AP stylebook. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | AHHHHH YES!! W it is, as in what words journalists live by to get the story in the biz?? One word isn't started by a w, nope, Hold,, it is the letter in the front of the opposite of Cold!
We are getting close now, ever so close to the end, the answers for the winner are just around the bend! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | H |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Bukes,
Michael Jordan? You kill me!! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | How is one word, what's the rest? There are a total of six used by the best. They all start with W, now how hard can this be, get cooking and get the right answers to me! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | How, who, what, where, when and why... |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | who, what, why, where, when -- is that the other 5 |
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What
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Why
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Looks like we were all waiting for the next clue. Three guesses in 5 minutes and
two at the same time.
I think he has us hooked. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OK, there it is, WHOWHATWHEREWHENHOWANDWHY now tell em the story, you have it all, just try!! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Who - Dick Pearson
What - Muskies on the Shield
Where - Lake of the Woods and Sauk Rapids, Minnesota
When - Published 2001
Why - "To convey a feel for this awesome land and what it offers each visitor" and "Info to plan, prepare and have an enjoyable and successful trip to the Shield"
How - Through the assistance of Rob Kimm (editor) and Brenda Loch (secretary)
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What - Muskies on the Shield DVD
Where - LOTW NW Angle
When - Released this week December 15, 2004 (mine is on the way!)
How - Filmed by Matt Gawlik on location across many bodies of water
Why - To try and convey a feel for the Canadian Shield (show his love for the Canadian wilderness)
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Good guess muskyboy...I couldn't come up with the "how" |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I gave you the clues, and you gave me the guesses; what you seek is in the correct ones as listed, not the messes! I took you to the one The Riddler pointed out, now go back to that one with the 5 ws and an H, and the answer you'll shout. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Who - Dick Pearson
What - Fishing with DDD's and DD's outfitted with red hooks
Where - The Northwest Angle
When - Pre 2001
How - With the help of Doug Johnson and Betsy Pearson
Why - To gather material to write Muskies on the Shield the book |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Who - Dick Pearson
What - Fishing with DDD's and DD's outfitted with red hooks
Where - The Northwest Angle
When - From 2001 through 2004 and released Dec. 15, 2004
How - With the help of Doug Johnson and Betsy Pearson
Why - To gather material to create Muskies on the Shield the DVD |
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What - Fishing with a Double D prototype with red hooks
Where - NW Angle LOTW
When - The late 90s
How - With help from Betsy Pearson and Doug Johnson, both pictured with big fish in the book
Why - To create the best book ever written describing how to fish Canadian lakes for muskies |
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| WAy too broad a stroke, I'm looking for one. You picked it before, get it right and we'll have some fun!
1 less than anything times 2, that should do it for directing you! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Who - Dick Pearson
What - Development of the DDD's and DD's (jerkbaits with depth control) outfitted with red hooks
Where - Fishing The Northwest Angle
When - Prior to 2001
How - With the help of Doug Johnson and Betsy Pearson L.D. who weighted her Bobbies and Suicks
Why - First noted in the book Muskies on the Shield - released in 2001.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | 3D in Chicago |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Pages and Paper |
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| One of the above answers is right, which one was specifically proven to be tight? One answer this time, one olny, but apply the w's and an h to make it fly!! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | WHOWHATWHEREWHENHOWANDWHY = 25
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Scavenger Hunt Continued, POST ANSWERS AND GUESSES HERE!!