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Location: Pillager, MN | I don't know if it's a run of bad luck or what, but I've broken two rods (7'6" graphite) on fish in the past 3 trips out (one 38"er and lost the other). I'm not going to name the brand, but it is a top of the line brand and their most expensive model. I also broke another last year on a fish (a skinny 38"). All shattered on the hookset (one was in five pieces). The only thing common between the three was cooler (40-45) air temps, which to me shouldn't be cold enough for a rod to fail.
What rods are the rest of you using later in the fall and is anyone else having this problem?
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Location: Watertown MN | I would guess Avid 7'6", I know somebody else who had a rash of these sticks breaking, casting and doing nothing out of the normal.
Good luck Troyz |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I would contact the manufacturer and explain the problem. If they are a quality company they will take care of you right away. Cold weather can be tough on graphites, but I use mine (with the exception of my sucker rods) right up to freeze up.
My rods are all St. Croix's and I have never had a problem in the cold (with the exception of suckers). |
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| I've had 5 Avid 7'6" rods break on me in the past 2 1/2 years. All on hookset's. I only boated one of those fish and it was a treat. One rod was a heavy action and the rest were med-heavy action. St. Croix always relpaced them with no questions. The reason why they break is because I am using line and lures that are way over the rating for the rods. I thought about switching to the Premier series but St. Croix said that they were not any stronger and the same would happen to them. Hope this helps. Good luck out there!
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Higher modulus graphite rods are more brittle and more prone to breakage. This seems to only multiply as the air temperature lowers. The higher the modulus graphite rating, the more sensitive/responsive the rod is, therefore by a lot of angler's feelings, the better the rod is going to be for casting and retrieving lures. (at least this is how it's been explained to me)
Use a higher modulus graphite rod, you're going to be more likely to break it, especially in the cold weather. IE. why many cold weather muskie freaks use fiberglass, or fiberglass/graphite composites super late in the year.
The manufacturer will probably back up your warranty claim, but everyone should keep this all in mind for the future. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | St.Croix is coming out with a hybrid (graphite/glass) stick for 05. Probally will work for suckers and late fall trips a little better than the thin walled Avid. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | GMG,
That is the old classic cat coming back. It is an awesome sucker rod and trolling rod. They discontinued it for a few years but it is coming back because of demand. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | 8' Heavy Norm? That's what this one is. Price is gonna be kinda lofty at $200.00 too
Edited by Gander Mt Guide 11/2/2004 2:17 PM
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Location: Holly, MI | Slamr has it right.
The very high mod rods are more prone to blowing up (thinner, lighter and more sensitive). They sure are nice for "feel" however. I have never broken a rod on a fish. You must be really trying to cross their eyes. Super duper sharp hooks make all the difference imho. If a ski has slammed its teeth deep into your bait NO amount of hookset pressure you would be able to muster will move the bait and hook the fish anyway. My friend landed a 24 pound Pike on a spoon with the treble hook swinging freely outside the fishes mouth. It had clamped down that hard on the metal spoon. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | I've been using premiers for over ten years.. Only had one break and it was the ups guy that brook it... Premiers (In My Opinion) are not as "Fragile" as Avids.. |
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Location: Rockford Il 61108 | Ive talked to the company and Graphite rods bruise. They bruise by impact on a certain part. This will cause it to break evenly. Use your rod covers and holders to protect. The bruising is caused by scrapes and hitting it on something (side of boat). Graphite is nice, but they do have their disadvantages. |
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Location: oswego, il | I have a 6'6" croix that is allergic to the guide inserts. I have had guides put on it 4 times now, once I got it back with a popped guide. I took it to frank's custom rods(same guy who has a rod up for bid on the kly auction) and he put on all new guides on it. Fine so far. |
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| Todd,
Your right. I'm glad you mentioned him. Frank is the man! I had the chance to get to know him at the Chigago shows last year while I worked the Voo Doo Tails booth. He was in that booth too with his rods. Very impressive Diamondback sticks and his quality is pennicle. I will own a couple of his rods one of these days and am sure I will be as satisfied as you have been. |
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Location: Washington, PA | Frank rods..........Slamr stole mine. I want my frank rod. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | but we do know that Frank Rods float....even with a 6600 Morrum on them! but sadly, Tommie's spinnerbaits dont float, sorry pal. |
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Location: Washington, PA | Many memories andie. A moment I won't soon forget. Now give me my frank rod. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I have two now, both seem to have MY name on them. I thought the baits I gave you at the Goon would shut you up, I guess I was wrong. Still my Frank rod, still my fiancee (ok, girlfriend for the next 2 weeks)....what else did you try to integrate into your life of my possessions?
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Location: Washington, PA | Let's not forget mom and dad, and the sister. Uh, I forget the rest. But most importantly, give me my frank rod. |
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Another broken rod