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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Search the forums of MuskieFIRST and the back reaches of your mind for items listed in the clues here. I expect to award the prize for this one in December, go ahead and TRY to prove me wrong. So what's the prize? A secret, shhhhh only bait 6 pack of the best baits you can wish for, a MuskieFIRST Sweatshirt, and a MuskieFIRST coffee mug. OK, here we go.
Clue one.
Primary. Yes, primary. Primary I said. I mean primary, not secondary, primary said I. 
Sorry Theedz, it's time for another hunt. Shep, let's see whatshoogot! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Come ON, you fear filled vessels of I don't have a clue!! At least post a bad guess....  |
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| My brain hurts!Primary......break, 1st,.I dunno! Steve |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | "Action is my primary determining factor and that goes hand in hand with location."
Grampa Joe's post about bait color? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | AHHH, one of you is close, is nearly on track, just take that mouse and look a bit back in this single thread is the key to find the first of the first things leading to me. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Last Saturday Slamr and I found the fish along VERY sharp breaks on three areas of Pelican. We moved a bunch and caught 3 on a breakline that is solid rock, with boulders the size of cars in some areas. The fish were relating to the 6 to 15' primary break there. (Another identical area had some, but less forage , and we moved no fish there despite the conditions looking right.) Spot two was on a sharp break from 6 to 34', with a weedline edge. We moved a couple and caught a 42". Those fish were in 12' to 18', away from the weedline in 6 to 10'. Spot three was a sand breakline from 4' to 34' in about a cast and a half. I moved a pig, and we saw a couple others coming from about 6'. All were relating to perch, of that I am sure. Where we moved the fish, there were schools of little perch everywhere. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Oh nooooo!!!! I refuse to be lured in by the riddling one!!!
Primary you say? |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Would it be the MuskieFirst Home page you are refering to? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It is not a quote or text I now seek, it's a definitive term, take a look, take a peek! |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Primary forage?? |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <p> sworrall - 10/22/2004 8:47 AM AHHH, one of you is close, is nearly on track, just take that mouse and look a bit back in this single thread is the key to find the <strong>first</strong> of the <strong>first</strong> things leading to me. </p><p>As in the Muskie First Logo...</p><p><a href="http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/"><img alt="" src="http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/templates/zach/images/common/wfblock.gif" align="middle" border="0" /></a></p> |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | One has it close, very close but needs more, it's indeed the right idea, just need the one to open the door! |
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | muskie first photo contest.....that is the first of the first things leading to you.
Edited by muskynutz 10/25/2004 7:44 AM
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| OK, just my first guess to get things rolling here.
Primary....
Primary colors are red, blue yellow (actually magenta, cyan and yellow).
Anyway, "look a bit back in this single thread" and "first of the first things".
The first "First" I see is the MuskieFirst which just happens to be in the "primary" color red.
How 'bout it riddler? Did I score a hit?
Scott
Edited by theedz155 10/25/2004 8:03 AM
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | The first of the first things was muskieFirst, and the one to open the door leads me to the homepage, but perhaps its the forum page that actually opens the doors to all the info....
the forum page of MuskieFirst? |
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | one more guess as to the first of the firt things that lead to you.......chat room....you were in the chat room bored. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Theedz has it right, his thinking was tight, he hit it. Now by that answer you'll be lead to the next step in this hike. Just WHAT do you suppose this item could be, where in the world would one find that which is that color? Go West, young folks, that direction will lead you to the find. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Theedz has it right, his thinking was tight, he hit it. Now by that answer you'll be lead to the next step in this hike. Just WHAT do you suppose this item could be, where in the world would one find that which is that color? Go West, young folks, that direction will lead you to the find. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | The red river is west of most musky folk, don't know what the bearing is to musky's, but then again I never did understand you when you assume this role. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | N,S,E,and W, it's the letters you see that clue you the best. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Are you referring to fishing at dusk? For instance the sun sets in the west and can certainly make the sky amazing shades of various colours including RED. Also like in RED sky at night - sailors delight! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The direction the sun sets, what might that be, if one was to take one letter, not the other three, one might just apply that to a place one might find, and suddenly the mystery of this clue will unwind. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | A wet bar?? |
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Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio | <p>Wisconsin?</p>
Edited by Tyler Campbell 10/26/2004 8:55 PM
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <p>W as in Wisconsin...a destination yet to be travelled to by me.</p><p>Okay so I type too slowly, how's about W as in Water...it's one of the four primary elements!</p>
Edited by out2llunge 10/26/2004 8:58 PM
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Edited by Bukes 10/26/2004 9:49 PM
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | The windswept end of the lake? |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | University of Wisconsin? ie.e Big red 'W' |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | W??? Look to the top of the summit, the upper, I say. Look to the top and with the W, play! |
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | MICHIGAN....UPPER MICHIGAN |
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| as in the summit of a mountain where WHITE SNOW is found. |
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | The primary edge, the surface. |
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | WEAGLE!
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Location: Miller time Wisconsin. | .
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | www.walleyefirst.com
Its at the summit (top) of every page, and has a boatload of w's. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I say the "W" is for white which is at the summit of mountains...Last week there was a thread in which myself and mskyfin69 posted pics of albino deer...that's my guess, the "W"hite deer |
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Location: WI | I click on the RED Muskie First Banner and on the top of the next page is www.heckels.com
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Hey Esox Dan....you joining us this weekend or what? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Norm has the spot but missed the plot, the clue was not real clear. Now go there, Norm, and search the place, BEFORE you have some beers. |
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | Eric Eichorn and Dan Felber of Red Wing, Minn 2004 MWC World Walleye Champions
Edited by muskynutz 10/28/2004 7:05 AM
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I am not certain as of yet. If I buy something at the auction tonight, it might be a good excuse to go pick it up this weekend at Jollymons or as I'm launching... |
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| walleye first is the SPOT ON THE SPOT? |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | World Walleye Rankings. |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Are you talking about RED hooks?
You posted a picture of a Pacemaker with red hooks on it.
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | West of the red muskiefirst logo is a muskie's tale. Man I hope that's it cuz I'm getting a headache already. Until December you say?  |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I actually have a bit more faith in this musky tail thing. It is immediately BEFORE the original clue and to the west if you were looking at a map. BEFORE this is done I will need that beer.
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Location: Ogden, Ut | But Norm,
Wouldn't you mean the walleye, since it's now supposed to be on the walleyefirst page?
K
perhaps we should just punt this and start on those beers now!
Edited by sorenson 10/28/2004 1:48 PM
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | I'm really not sure what I mean and its just starting. I vowed not to be drawn in and yet here I am. Could be the walleye too, but my hunch tells me the riddler is going on a musky tale. |
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red/first both "primary"
clicking the red MuskieFirst logo takes you to homepage
going west (left) on homepage you come to the OutdoorsFirst site lists
the summit (top) of these is WalleyeFirst, which also starts with "W" from going west
clicking WalleyeFirst brings us to...
"Norm has the spot but missed the plot, the clue was not real clear. Now go there, Norm, and search the place, BEFORE you have some beers."
perhaps the front half of the walleye in the WalleyeFirst logo???
it's the "before" part of the fish and it's "not real clear" due to the subdued logo???
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Location: Ogden, Ut | for my fantasy scavenger hunter, I pick lambeau 
K.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <div class="quote"><a href="http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/">WalleyeFIRST IS...</a> the "Spot on the Spot" for up to date walleye industry news. on the WF homepage.</div> |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Fishin Freak has it right, he got it well, he saw the light!
Now let's see where that clue leads, what is the next clue, the one for all hunters, even Theedz?
Here we go, look here and there, what exaclty are we searching for that's NOT on the air? What is it like the last, but different for sure, what is that we search for? Here is a clue; an idea you can ponder, while all over OutdoorsFIRST your search makes you wander. It WAS there, I swear, it was, now it isn't, but the memory shoud be fresh, like a hologram or prism.
Intense desire, a want, a wish, all for the capture of a silly old fish.
Has the Riddler gone bonbkers. lost it, insane? Or is he asking you search on an entirely different plane? No he hasn't I don't think, he's just a little inane , but I promise and I wager his clues will be a pain!
Norm, don't despair, you were close had it almost; playing the Hunt beats just sitting on a fence post. Shep, where you at, you hiding or just afraid, that the Riddler will draw you in to his odd masquerade? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | MuskieFirst Recycle Bin? |
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| Seems as though from this thread others have fled. They know not where with these clues they will be led. Oh Riddler I ask why is it so in the anguish of others you bask with a glow??
My guess to bring this to the top is the thread showing the DDD in a bucks chop. Could it be that, you refer to the "hunt" and that "not in the air" refers to the ground. This behemoth was well grounded I'm sure.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17...
If this isn't correct, let me know. I'll guess again if not just for show.
Scott
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | THEEDZ HAS IT, at least close enough, I was talking about Triple D's not the blanks or in the rough! OK, now Mr. Theedzzzzzzzz, and those who are hooked, where was it that the Triple D got their first real look? |
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | New London--in pool video's |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Ghoti and Theedz, pure genius. They were on site now they are not. Gotta be the New London pool Demos. I even remember Steve Worrall running some suicks on them, maybe the ones with red hooks?
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no...didn't that take place in Tripoli? |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | But then I remember, the first real splash for the Triple D was the Chicago Show. Yes??? |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | 3D in Chicago, 2-Dimensional in Esox Angler and Musky Hunter?
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Location: Medford, WI | Hugo, Minnesota |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | RE: Jlong Spill the Beans
Since we are talking about color... here is a black and white CAD image of the TripleD for those that can't wait for the Chicago Show to see one. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | The ERC website? That used to have a link here also. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <font color="#008000"><a href="http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/media/viewtest.asp?clip=19">http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/media/viewtest.asp?clip=19</a> This pool demo that I can't seem to view anymore...</font> |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Fish-N-Freak has it right now what would that be 'lite'? |
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Location: Cudahy, Wisconsin | The new Frabill Artic fire tip-up light?- http://icefishing.outdoorsfirst.com/board/thread-view.asp?threadid=... |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Moon? |
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| Triple Delight! Sounds like dessert to me!! Mmmmmmmmm... |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | 'lite' ???
Miller Lite?
Red --- Lite -- Triple D = Amsterdam? (.Y.)
Mind is melting down. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OOOOHHH so close,just refine the idea, it's in front of your nose... |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <p>Red + Triple D + Chicago = Chicago Muskie Show for 3 Days ...January 14, 15, 16 2005 </p><p>Maybe an MF booth at this years show?</p>
Edited by out2llunge 11/4/2004 10:05 PM
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Tri Esox Productions? Or the pool itself "Lake Tri-Esox"
The group that runs the Chicago show. It the first show (Primary) of the year.
Triple D (Tri) , Esox Angler (Esox) . I feel good about this guess.
Edited by Fish-n-Freak 11/5/2004 9:46 AM
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| How about the Rip N Glide. That was lighter than a DDD wasn't it.
Come one Riddler...throw us a bone here.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Theedz, you are so close you almost won a hat with your last guess , very near; if you had guessed right you would have but didn't, I fear. Take a look at the 'lite' post, then line up the thread, in this case 'lite' doesn't mean less lead. We search for the big prize item, it's two this time not one, the Riddler promises this to be interesting and fun. But! Not easy. Not easy at all. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Is it the X-Ray Hughes River Thread? |
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| OK, I guess yet again.
Our first real "look" without actually seeing the bait was jlongs vivid description of the DDD posted 11-16-02:
Anyway, the lure that people are talking about is called the TripleD. It got its name from Dynamic Deep Diver... a phrase I coined a few years ago to refer to some of my old tinkered up crankbaits. The construction of this lure is unique and will definitely set a new standard for plastic lures. What is cool about this bait is it has split personalities... and I describe it as a "Jerkbait in Disguise". Combining near neutral bouyancy and a little engineering..... the lure can be worked in an erratic fashion with minimal effort. No more double pumping cranks and a sore shoulder at the end of the day!
Later, in the post, they started talking about the Purkinje Shift, which is the shift of vision from rod vision to cone vision due to the shift in light ['lite'].
Also in the same post was originally a "black and white CAD image" of the DDD that has since been removed. It once was there, now it is not????
Steve, I can picture you at the computer.
I've been there, I know.
Where the the road lead, with caution we must proceed.
Nowhere near to the end are we I bet.
No not quite, not just yet!!
PS Steve, you can wipe that #*#* eating grin off your face too.......
Scott
Edited by theedz155 11/8/2004 6:11 AM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | If once there was just three and you were trying to see what the Riddler meant by Lite then you just maybe MIGHT look at the correct answer from the last, then go not so far into the past to get this one done and start the trip to the ONE! (actually, two) |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Â It wouldn't be the Milwaukee Musky Expo would it? Never having been to either (653 miles is a bit of a distance), I'm only guessing that the Milwaukee show is smaller - hence lighter? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The New London Show is the smallest. |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | The DD is lite one D from the triple? What was once three is now two. It is from the last answer. Please be right!!
Could it be the DD from ERC?
Edited by nwild 11/9/2004 7:51 AM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The double DD from ERC is the one you wanted, yessiree!! Norm had it right, his thinking was tight, he wins a hat, what do you think of THAT? Now we move on, we try to find the one thing you seek from the depths of your mind..
In the past it was one place, then it's another, a search for the big one, the monster, the mother. An item I'm not, so please don't go there, I'm more of a concept, to be fair. |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Good job Norm!
Now I will start the guessing with a couple of concepts;
Catch & Release or Catch Photo and Release
or
It's called fishing not catching.
and my favorite;
You should have been here yesterday!
Can't wait to see where this goes.
Steve
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Tournaments?
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | MUSKY HUNTING ? |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <p>Matchfishing...</p><p>...Fishing Reports</p>
Edited by out2llunge 11/10/2004 9:37 AM
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Location: Alexandria, MN | "It's just another lure"
My number 1 'concept' in Muskie Fishing, is the idea that everything is just another
tool. From my rods, reels and lures to my boat and electronics, everything is just
a tool that makes muskie fishing more fun, more productive and/or safer.
Time on the water is what it's all about.
One more cast! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I am what I am, I am what I'll be, so many of you are looking up to me... |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Former world records or the hunt for the next world record! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OTL has the track, has the idea, has the gist, but needs to refine it, it's about the LAW, it is!
Heck, I'M confused now.... |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | <p>You're confused...that's not a good sign!</p><p>And just when I thought I was getting close...I'm confused too now!</p><p>Is it which organization (IGFA, WRMA, FWFHF...) or by what set of rules is a fish deemed to be the world record.</p>
Edited by out2llunge 11/10/2004 8:00 PM
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Location: Ogden, Ut | is it the WMRA? |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | oops WRMA! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | IGFA Rules: http://www.igfa.org/BookRule2004.pdf
http://www.igfa.org/BookRule2004.pdf
NWFHF Rules: http://www.freshwater-fishing.org/induction_rules_regs.html
http://www.freshwater-fishing.org/records.html
How about DNR/MNR regs?
Thanks Steve...that looks better.
Edited by out2llunge 11/11/2004 5:54 AM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | out2llunge,
Go to the Control Panel in the toolbar just under the muskieFIRST logo and scroll down the the rich edit box. Check NO. That will clear up your posts. Should read like this:
No Use rich edit box when composing messages? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Which body of water will the world record muskie be caught? |
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| The law it is??
How about CPR (or Let 'em go. Let 'em grow.). This in turn will eventually get us closer to our records.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Okay so it's not the organizations (IGFA and so on), their rules (LAWs) governing records, nor the MNR/DNR rules and regs...so is it about the LAW of AVERAGES - that a WR fish may or may not even exist or the number of hours required fishing on trophy waters to catch a WR.
Or another LAW, Art LAWtons disqualified fish?
Whether any of these are right or not, at least it's been nice to be on the right track for a change! |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | It seems to me like he very well could be talking about world record fish. It was in one place and now its not... its about the "LAW".
Lawtons fish was disqualified bringing the WR back to WI.
Many are looking up to me.
Who doesn't look up to the WR musky.
It must be something to do with the WR musky. |
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| Is the current WR real?
Who really caught the WR fish?
Where was the WR fish really caught?
How was the WR fish really caught?
Do you believe the current WR is real?
Do you believe the NY WR is real?
Do you believe the Canadian WR is real?
This is a heated topic for sure! |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | If we are going with the 'law' twist, and the Lawton fish was guessed -- and I think is right -- but
just in case it isn't;
Are we talking about the 50" size limit? or Spearing?
The size limit would help, and the spearing is hurting. 2 'Laws' that need to change.
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Are you looking for Fishing Regulation?
Opening Day for Muskie Fishing ?
"I'm more of a concept. To be fair." "I am what I am, I am what I'll be, so many
of you are looking up to me."
Hunt for the next world record -- "right track, has the idea, has the gist... It's about the
LAW it is."
Opening day changes every year, it is set when it is to be fair. (gives the fish a chance
to spawn) It's the LAW and we are "Looking up to the date when we can start fishing again."
Opening day starts the hunt for the next world record.
Just a guess to bring it back to page 1.
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | How about a PERSONAL BEST?
"I'm more of a concept. To be fair." "I am what I am, I am what I'll be, so many
of you are looking up to me." Everyone (most anyway) want to beat their PB.
Hunt for the next world record -- "right track, has the idea, has the gist... It's about the
LAW it is." There are minimum size limits which are LAWS that we must meet even when looking for a PB. Also the LAW of averages says the more time you're spending on the water (fishing) the better the likelihood of beating your PB.
Like FNF, just a guess...or the hopes for another clue....
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In the past it was one place, then it's another, a search for the big one, the monster, the mother. An item I'm not, so please don't go there, I'm more of a concept, to be fair.
What is a spot in which you use the "law" of averages?
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Okay, straw grasping time...LAW of gravity or MURPHYS LAW! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Three more letters.
WOW. That's a short clue. |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | I think I'm getting Norm's headache...
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Esox Dan has the beginning of the four; a lead to one we are looking for to get you through...
Alice In Wonderland Doors.
Aspirin. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | LAW plus 3 more letters. Alice needed the KEY to get through the door because she was always too BIG or too SMALL and couldn't reach the key. Drink Me/Eat Me okay...
LAW is the KEY to ... restoring record class or Trophy sized fish into Wisconsin lakes.
This all relates to the Genetics and Tournament fishing and sub 40" muskies threads.
To quote SW from the genetics thread... "I think some of the systems here in Northern Wisconsin should be designated as trophy only, perhaps at 50", maybe even 52". Will that insure greater numbers of 50" class fish available? No one is sure. I for one would sure like to see it tested." and also "Wisconsin gets it, alright, but we DO need to get the lakes capable of kicking out the big girls up to a 50" or even 52" limit."
and another SW quote from the sub 40" thread ..."You are attempting to argue muskie managenent through a Tournament minimum registered fish size, which is not going to work. What 'used to be trophy waters' and 'are no longer' can be the subject of a long debate, in fact, I think I made a reference to that earlier."
"What used to be and is no longer". World records was the right track the gist = trophy sized fish.
How about it Steve am I close now?
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Lawful |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Are you looking for the LAW that banned Trolling in Wisconsin?
Just a guess.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Take the tree and add them to me. One had it right, had it tight, had me in sight...
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Law Key Stand (from tree stand) as in take a stand on the trophy waters issue ... or sit in a tree and hunt deer, what the heck do I know?
or
Law Key Maple = Lucky Maple like in the Wabull (made of maple)
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Figurative Explanation... LAW KEY TREE = Conservation Congress / Variety of factors including winter habitat, spawning habitat, food, cover, predator prey, genetic strain (from smaller fish vs. trophy fish [of same strain]) and so on / all of these factors together form the tree with all of its branches.
Literal Explanation... LAW KEY TREE ...Tree = Arbor Vitae
By the way I do enjoy your riddles Steve, even if they do frustrate me!
Edited by out2llunge 11/17/2004 7:36 PM
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| I'm racking my brain here on this one and nothing seems right. Just don't wanna throw a WAG out there.
I'm thinking it's got something to do with hunting or the woods. But nothings standing out here.
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | Just thowing one out there....if the law assumed is the law of gravity and the tree is involved in maybe hunting...then someone fell out of a treestand! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | LAW and three more...
tree to branch are where I was
I am not an object.
I am not an idea.
One had the right word already, now look for the five w's and you will find me!!
Star??
Three paths lead to me.
LAW plus three.
Star??
I am not an object or idea.
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | lucky star.......tree to branch is where you were.....looking for your lucky star....you must have seen the northern lights? |
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Location: CENTRAL WISCONSIN | law-key-star?=lucky star.......tree to branch is where you were.....looking for your lucky star....you must have seen the northern lights? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OK, you are having a tough time I see with the clues about law, me and a tree. Another clue now, not asociated with the rest, I'll make it quite simple, though one of my best...
Hamburger.
No, it's not hunting, not a deer or a tree, I am not an object or thing, a ___________________ I be! Fill in the blank with the three letters and three, and you are on your way to discovering me. All the answers are linked, they are all from a group, so quit trying to muddle through that pile of mental poop! |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | rod? |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | The right word was Lawyer. One of the 5 W's is WHY...
As for hamburger - RAW
"No, it's not hunting, not a deer or a tree, I am not an object or thing, a ___________________ I be!" The blank suggests a concept or idea. If it's a three letter word othre than WHY...than how about...ACT, TIP, BIT, END, AIM...
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I thought the lawyer thing was something. I couldn't take it anywhere. 'Star' as in Ken Star who is a Lawyer??? Then the tree clue. Then the LAW/Hamburger clue (Bull)??? LAW and BULL kinda make WABBUL??? Then I thought he was looking for 5 different lures begin the spelling with 'W' to take us on?????
Guess: Wood lure's?
Second thought: I have no idea!
I will check after deer hunting!!!!!!!!
Edited by esox-dan 11/18/2004 7:58 PM
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Lawyer: Who, What, When, Where, Why?
Which means zip to me at the moment!!!!!!
Now, I'll check after hunting... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OK, then, MAKE hamburger.... |
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Harvest log
DNR creel log
logon
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Muskyboy is oh so close, almost has the key to finding the clue that we have been searching for, you see? Hamburger grinder lawyer erc, who is I am, who is it I be? |
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Location: Bagley,MN 56621 | Dick Pearson
he's a lawyer, makes the Pearson Grinder (or designed it or whatever) and is associated with the esox Research Company (ERC) |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | GregM gets a hat!!!! What the heck do you think of that?? Now find the next item, the one we now seek, look to the North West and you'll find me this week! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | In a tree stand looking for deer. |
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or deer hunting in a tree stand in SD or MN
Edited by muskyboy 11/19/2004 12:35 PM
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red hooks
double D
Dick Pearson
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so maybe it's Walsh's baystore camp.
Dick Pearson's home guiding area, his primary lure is a Double D, either with red hooks or some red coloring in it??
somebody come and buy a boat, am so bored I gotta do this LOL |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | "Now find the next item, the one we now seek, look to the North West and you'll find me this week!"
SNOW!!!
Cold front coming, could it be SNOW and/or ICE you are looking for? Forecast says we are going
to get snow this week.
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Maybe the COLD FRONT itself? Usually comes in from the NW.
Edited by Fish-n-Freak 11/19/2004 1:02 PM
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Wind |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Wind, which leads to current and turmoil in the water.
Edited by MuskieMedic 11/19/2004 1:19 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | muskyboy has it ( and gets a hat), the NW Angle is where we need to be, now try to get the next one, it's not as easy, see? I am not what you think, I am not what you've seen, I am something else entirely, but connected, it seems! |
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| Whoohoo a hat! Yippie!
Is it the Canadian Border Patrol dial in booth across from my buddy Frank Walsh's place?
Is it the Canadian Border itself?
Is it the Canadian shield?
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Location: Ogden, Ut | Muskies on the Shield book?
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Location: Ogden, Ut | wow, my computer wacked out there... |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Sioux Narrows |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Sioux Narrows |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Sioux Narrows |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Chicago Musky Show Dick Pearson Presentation Sunday 12:00 PM ~ Dick Pearson--"Save your Day - Think Current" |
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| How about "Wall of Water". Connected but not seen. Related to Dick P and also reverts back to the previous WOW clue.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It was the night before deer hunting and all through the house, gun actions were clicking to the delight of my spouse. We've been out in the woods, up in a tree, and that's why there's been no new clues from me!
New clue:
Another. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Doug Johnson |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Medic has it, he guessed it right here!! Now he will get a hat next time he sees me at the Hideout or near. The next one's the big one, the mega, the Riddler's boast, it will indicate the winner, the one who wins the MOST!
This is the motherlode, the clues to the win, they won't be real easy, they might be a bit thin, but follow the path, the one the Riddler set, and if you follow it well, you'll win it, I bet!
Ok, here we go, this is the first of the last, what did we discuss once just awhile ago in the past? Doug was the last one, the last one he was, now there is another, but I'm not looking for that yet because...
You have to get there from somewhere else today. Just follow the yellow brick road, as Dorothy would say. Name that road, and we all will be near to solving this riddle, this Scavenger Hunt, that's clear!! |
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The gravel road in Manitoba that leads to the Northwest Angle |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Provincial Rd. 525 |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Theedz guessed Hwy 11, all the way across Minnesota, and yellow on Map Quest, too. You can't actually believe the Riddler would be that easy, can you? The road you seek is one the Riddler set not made of concrete or asphalt (or gravel) it will take you to the all the way to the winning, I bet!
Some were on that road at one time here, you've gone off in another direction with the actual roads, I fear! |
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Or how about the Young's Bay Launch? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | What you seek was mentioned before, it's the item you need to open the door! |
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Red
Hooks
DDD
DD
Dick Pearson
NW Angle
Doug Johnson
Edited by Bukes 11/30/2004 3:51 PM
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Are we back to the "KEY" from the Alice in Wonderland clue?
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Maybe the Muskie Shows? These are the places where we get to see all the people,
places and things that have been mentioned so far?
Edited by Fish-n-Freak 11/30/2004 4:46 PM
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Location: NW burbs of Chicago | is the road to which you refer a thread on the site that was mentioned earlier? |
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Road to nowhere
Road to riches
Highway to Hell! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Chicago Muskie Show for 3 Days ...January 14, 15, 16 2005 |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Steve/Mr. Worrall/Dad,
Everytime Crash_McGolden wakes up in the middle of the night screaming about something for this scavenger hunt thing, I'm calling you. No matter what time it is.....I have all three of your phone numbers, and I'm not afraid to use them!
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Was metioned before and is on the path that the rest of the clues followed.
How about the Pearson Grinder?
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Muskies on the Shield - the book
Muskies on the Shield - the video |
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Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain | Here is my SWAG
The following correct answers may create the road we need to go down.
primary
red hooks
Double D
Dick P
NW Angle
Doug J.
The only thing I can get to use all these clues and my reasoning.
The PRIMARY bait (Double D is a bait) of DICK P and DOUG J when they fish in the NW ANGLE that is offered with RED HOOKS is a 10" suick!
Weird logic I know, but is the answer a 10" Suick or the Sideways Thriller?
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A Jake with Red Hooks
A Believer with Red Hooks
Think, think, think...I have fished with Dick, what would it be, maybe a TopRaider with Red Hooks
I might have it, the soon to be released ERC topwater lure they have been testing on the NW Angle
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | So one of you guessed the vehicle you need, now let me plant this little seed:
Opposite. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | How about a MAP/Chart of LOTW with specific locations to be fished from our all nice MUSKIE BOAT. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | You had the one, then you had some fun guessing weird things but getting no bling. OPPOSITE!! |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | a dock? |
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Edited by muskyboy 12/3/2004 9:56 PM
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Vehicle...choose the opposite...of a recent guess such as Topwater opposite being a Deep Diver, perhaps even a Dynamic Deep Diver like the Triple D? Maybe one with red hooks?
or something guessed before maybe the Weagle or the Wabull?
Edited by out2llunge 12/3/2004 11:07 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Come on guys, to solve this by New Year I will have to get more direct, that's The Riddler's big fear. One had the opposite, the other half of this deal now quit guessing roads and lures, and find me one that's REAL! |
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Dick Pearson's TriEsox presentation "Save Your Day - Think Current"
Bay Store Camp Resort on LOTW NW Angle, Dick Pearson's base camp
Angle Outpost on LOTW NW Angle, Doug Johnson's base camp
Dick Pearson's musky boat
Doug Johnson's musky boat
Edited by muskyboy 12/4/2004 8:32 AM
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | In Dorothy's THe Wizard of Oz and the yellow brick road she has to contend with:
The wicked WIND from the east, but we're talking NW angle so the wonderful WIND from the WEST creating current and turmoil.
Follow the windy road. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | In Dorothy's THe Wizard of Oz and the yellow brick road she has to contend with:
The wicked WIND from the east, but we're talking NW angle so the wonderful WIND from the WEST creating current and turmoil.
Follow the windy road.
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Sorry, if I am being misleading....
Edited by esox-dan 12/4/2004 6:38 PM
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2nd Annual Sabaskong Bay M1st outing
Sabaskong Bay Lodge |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | We also had red as in Red Wing Lodge on the opposite side of LOW. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Look for the answer in the ones that won, then take the opposite, and begin the fun of finding the number, numerical, that is, that will find the winning object and prove you to be a Scavenger Riddle Wiz! One of the posts lists them, all nice and all neat, take a look around for that list, while you're planted in that seat.
Opposite here means 'the other', OK? The Riddler can be devious and always fair not play. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | The answers so far:
Red
Hooks
DDD
DD
Dick Pearson
NW Angle
Doug Johnson
There are 7 of them as one more than the number of baits to be won in the grand prize. The opposite of which right now is ZERO which is the number that I've won - or likely will win...
How about a 7' muskie stick...desparate times call for desparate guesses
I forecast 11 answers to win the big prize. Add the 7 clues already won and that makes 18 just like in the size of worral's boat for sale. It's not really for sale, it's part of the prize table
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Location: Alexandria, MN | OK, I went back and read the entire 9 pages.
We found Doug Johnson, after finding Dick Pearson, who we found from a series of clues -- starting
with LAW +3 = Lawyer.
The clue states; "Im, the first of the last, Doug was the last one, the last one he was"
I think we are back to FIRST clue about Dick Pearson which is;
LAW or LAWYER??
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Location: Alexandria, MN | Here is what I found in my review; first of all we tend to get way of track, but
the extra clues bring us back on track. Some clues are way harder than others,
but once you hear the answer the clues do make sense.
From the top;
Primary was for RED
Then came the W and WalleyeFirst which was The RED TREBLE HOOKS
Then he turned to hunting and we went to the buck with the DDD in it's mouth.
First Look at the DDD was in ESOX ANGLER
Then he backed up a step and asked for something "lite" and we went for the DD
Then a bunch of clues that had us going nuts, which brought us to LAWYER
Then the GRINDER
Then DICK PEARSON -- NW ANGLE -- another ? == DOUG JOHNSON
Now we are asked for the the first of the last. Doug was the last one, the last one he was, now there
is another, but I'm not looking for that yet because....... You have to get there from someplace else.
So my guess of Lawyer is taking a step back to "the first of the last" and see where this someplace else
is.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | You all have the one, but don't have the other. One thing I can tell you, it's not someone's brother.
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Location: Alexandria, MN | I would guess, we are looking for a girl?
Maybe Libby Hoene or Laura Morrison?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | muskyboy got this one, now we head down the way- to the end of this Hunt, to almost no one's dismay. The Riddler is looking for something exact, you have all the clues, so get together, make a pact; find what the Riddler saw, find what he directs, and you will be the winnner in two or three steps! The Riddler says middle of the month, this will take, just to get the details, and cut the final cake.
SOOOO ----- Betsy Pearson what??? |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Presentation - where you throw not what you throw... choosing a few select baits and fishing them in the most productive spots.
Betsy and Sunset BOB
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Betsy Pearson: Sales and Marketing Director: Muskies on the Shield the Video |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Back in the day might be a good start, Riddler's looking for a select thing, some info, in part, so go look through your answers, reference material, if you would, and get the source listed, if only you could! |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Doug Stange .... Rob Kimm |
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Now that is passion for fishing to the extreme!
I can't add another reply all day for some reason, so here are a couple more ideas:
Lac Seul in the early days where Dick Pearson was exploring The Chamberlain Narrows area (NE Lac Seul)
Jack Burns, another Lac Seul pioneer
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Now that is passion for fishing to the extreme! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | S O U R C E!! Find it, I say, find it and let's PLAY!! |
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Jack Burns, another early pioneer but less well known |
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Jack Burns, another early pioneer but less well known |
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Jack Burns, another early pioneer but less well known |
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Jack Burns, another early pioneer but less well known |
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Jack Burns, another early pioneer but less well known |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Deep reefs
weighted jerks |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Deep reefs
Weighted jerkbaits |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | walls |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | Yah I can't edit my answers either, how about ROCKS as in "Back in the 'early days' my habit of fishing rocks... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Look for the SOURCE, you had it before! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Look for the SOURCE, you had it before! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Loo for the SOURCE, you had it one time! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | test |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | test
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | test
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | OK, test again
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | test |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | erwevwrev |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | erwevwrev |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | erwevwrev |
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