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Location: Hartland, WI | I am just wondering what all the hype is about this lure. How much different can someone make a walk-the-dog topwater bait???
They are all(for the most part) straight and somewhat round, this lure looks the same as the other 100 hanging on the walls of any good tackle shop you go into.
Just wondering what the difference is??? |
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Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota | The Weagel will move 10X the water as one of those "other baits.
It's a way better big water and waves bait by far.
Just a different look. |
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Location: WI | The difference is that you can't get one until winter shows, and everyone who has one seems to have caught a fish on them. The motto of the Weagle is "just another lure".
Seriously though, I ordered one in May and just got mine this week. I threw it out in the pond by my house and it has sweet side to side motion. Stays a little deeper in the water than other walk the dog style baits so it has a better hook up ratio. Looking forward to getting it wet on musky waters.
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Location: Washington, PA | Just another bait. |
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Location: Hartland, WI | That works for me.
If it moves more water, and has a little different stroke to it, then my question is answered and I guess I need another walk the dog bait. GREAT!!! |
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| As stated above, they're a whole lot heavier than a Jackpot or Doc or the like, and as a result can move a whole lot more water than either of those baits. The 'slurp' of this lure as compared to those noted above is much "bigger". The additional weight also reduces the chances of the fish popping the lure out of the water during the strike, thus potentially increasing hooking percentages.
4 fish on my lucky perch Weagle has made me a believer.... |
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Location: Hugo, MN | This thing has a much larger range of motion than a viper or a jackpot. It twists from 9 to 3 and 3 back to 9 I would compare it to a Viper on Steroids.
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Location: Madtown, WI | NEVER have thrown a weagle...I have a Hughes River Top Prey that is the same concept...heavy, sits low, moves water, isn't pushed out of the way on a hit because it is heavy.....So far I have 52 and 46 inches (and some smaller) why I like it. With that said, I got it before the weagles came out. I would have gotten a weagle first because its cheaper, Shady is one heck of a guy, and it plain catches fish too. But didn't.
The concept is a solid concept as to why it is preferred over the "pot".....
There was a TON of hype around the triple D....all of that is founded hype (have a bunch of fish on them too!) and so is the hype on the weagle.
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | The difference in my opinion is two things:
1. THE SOUND, when worked like it is supposed to be worked, the sound it puts off is like NO other bait on the market. The SWOOSH, SWOOSH is what the bait is all about. It not just another lure making some sort of disturbence on the water.
2. THE SIZE, AND 3 HOOKS. If you throw top water a lot you know that strike to catch ratio an be pretty low at times. With the large profile, 3 hooks, and the SLOW DEATH MARCH, very little fish miss the bait.
Once people get one, there will need to be a "Weagle School" on how to properly throw one.
I didn't know the "right" way to throw one, or on what kind of rod, but as soon as I did I caught a 50!! |
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| It has more side to side action than the other walk the dogs.
You can #*^@ near make it turn a 180 degree. During the "death march" I routinely get the bait to go past 90 degrees and has the head facing almost fully backwards and the tail facing me.
To me, it's the action as much as the sound.
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Location: Alexandria, MN | I have Jackpots/Vipers/Doc'/PhatBoys and Top Preys -- I can't wait to get a
Weagle and see how it compares. I have certian lures for certain lakes and certain
conditions -- The heavier louder idea will come in handy.
I don't have that big of a problem with hooking fish on these baits, so if this one
does it even better, I will be set.
I will be looking for them as soon as they hit the stores.
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| For one thing, my 8-year old daughter can work it. No cadance needed to keep it moving in a walk the dog manner.
The weight is paramount. When a big fish tries to eat a light top water, it pushes a wall of water that actually pushes the intended target out of the water. This doesn't happen with the Weagle.
The sound will call fish from long distances.
I still don't have one except for the original that I turned into a B-eagle. Sworrall let me borrow the one that I repainted for him while I was at Cass. Topwater bite was non-existant, but I threw it anyway.
Did I mention that my daughter could fish it without having to twitch it constantly? 
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Location: Rockford Il 61108 | Let the efficiency show on the water. Our industry is becoming flooded with lures that are copy cats from yesteryear.
Jakes, Grandmas, Triple D's, and all the others. They all do the same thing. Its all about what the fisherman likes. Same goes with the color. Topwaters are especially flooded with copycats. I could tie a hook on a stick and jerk it around and catch a Musky.
The Weagle probably is a good lure, but with more hype.
PS---Cant wait to get one
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Location: Madison | Evar D - 9/30/2004 6:03 PM
flooded with lures that are copy cats from yesteryear.
Absolutely. I bought my fishing partner a book that covered the values of old fishing lures and equipment - not because he cares about what they're worth, but because it's fun to look at all the pictures of lures. It's amazing how much stuff is recycled in baits today, but a lot of the designs still work just fine.
All that said, I too, will probably pick up a Weagle when they come out.
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| I would like to buy one but I spent all my money on mantas and super top raiders.  |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | This lure is absolutley NOT like any other walk the dog out there. I can make this thing POP so loud it is audible on a windy day, and 10' from the boat can plunk it down like a glider and walk it to the boat under water. It figure 8's well, and works well wiht the cadence I like, best described by Theedz. On one afternoon, I got a 30.25" walleye, a 43" pike, and a 21' smallmouth on the thing. The muskies like it, too. |
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Location: Orland Park | Just like a top prey......heavy, moves water, and you can pop it to dive just below the surface.
It's a nice bait. |
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Location: Elkhart, IN | Hey Steve, you had a walleye hit a topwater bait? |
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| Heard that anyone can get one if they are fast enough on Thursday. But that is just inner circle talk.
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Location: oswego, il | I have one and I love it. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | SV
Yes, not just one, either. The biggest was close to 11 pounds. Have it on video, Weagle hanging out of it's yap. Got a 9 the next day, same lure, different place. |
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Location: Orland Park | I got a 31" walleye on the top prey 2 years ago at 11:00 at night. |
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| A TP doesn't make half the noise or move a fraction of the water that a Weagle does.
I use Top Preys, but usually in calmer conditions.
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Largest release 48.5" Caught on "Just Another Lure..."
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Location: Orland Park | Hey Lambeau,
Why would you sell a bait, out of curiousity? Did you really hate it that bad? How much did you get for it? I have a couple of them, and I'm willing to get rid of them if the price is right. Jackpots too!
Steve, you have a great bait.....my partner in Mike James Cass PMTT has one.......It's awesome.........(It was good meeting you).
But how much are you payin some of these guys on this site? It's like a crazy cult following!!! 
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Location: Lino Lakes, MN | i thought ths same thing that a lot of people are probably thinking. what can be so different about this bait? i thought it was just a bunch of hype, but after being in the boat with a couple of guys throwing one, and watching it out-perform the docs and jackpots that i was throwing, i became a believer. the weagle consistently CAUGHT fish that no other lure would even bring up. i dont have one in the box yet, but you can bet your ass that i will have one as soon as they are out. just my 2 cents. have a good one fellas.
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| George Foreman - 9/30/2004 9:37 PM
I would like to buy one but I spent all my money on mantas and super top raiders. :(
ROFLMAO!!!
I still have my money cause I skipped those two! |
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| Being a guy that helps out the Weagle makers I have a little inside info. Wait for the video action at the shows then decide if it's hype. It's not a one fluke big fish lure it's been proven BEFORE it's sold. As the guys that make it say it's not the perfect bait. It's just another lure. It just works in certain situations very well.
Eric
What do I know I've never caught a muskie. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | The Weagle is great. I caught the 48.5 and a 39 in the Hayward Lakes Muskies. Inc tourney. Bad part is that I borrowed it from a friend and have to give it back, now I am Weagless:( |
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| Guy's who don't have a Weagle or have not used one. Do yourself a favor and keep your money. Those baits are all hype. The fish caught on them were all replicas and/or skin mounts in the photos. The videos are mechinacal muskies that Sir Cady has been working on for years and the testimonials were all paid for. HE, he, he...Do you smell sarcasm??? I'm going to hang onto the last one I have for a momento of course and that is it. Weagles suck and don't catch real fish!!! LOL!!! NOT!!!
Weagles on water = hooked muskies PERIOD!!!
Iceman
P.s.- I was not paid to say that! He, he, he. |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | I should have my first chance to toss one on Friday -- I will post my review next
week -- with any luck there will be a photo with my report!
Sounds like they are made to excell in the rougher conditions, I will still keep my
Jackpots and Docs for those days where I can use them. Just another lure, with
a specific time and place.
We will just have to see what happens this weekend.
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Location: ft wayne, IN | Finally had some follows on my Weagle...still waiting for Ms Big to crunch it though. Any advice on working it better from the "Weagle pros"?
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| Jeff,
Mike Ice here. How's it going? I am no expert nor do I consider myself a pro with the Weagle. However, I have put some serious time on the water with it since ice out and caught a few fish with it too. I feel that there is no real wrong way to work that bait. I will work it painlessly slow with violent twitches to turn it or I will work it medium retrieve with a consistant rythem or I will work it fast with a erratic rythem that has pauses and off beat twitches. My main concearn is to move as much water and make as loud of a swoosh as I can. Just like any other bait I will mix up my presentation to see what the fish like. If the Weagle wants to dive then that is ok too. I hope this helps you out. Good luck out there!
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | The DEATH MARCH is all you need!
SWOOSH........SWOOSH...........SWOOSH.........SWOOSH........SWOOSH.........
Slow and loud, just like the maker of the bait!
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Location: Hugo, MN | The Weagle is a great Lure, no doubt it has proven itself this summer. Let's not forget that in order to get that 50" you still have to be in the right place at the right time which is still 90% of the challenge in Musky fishing. |
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| And on the right waters.
It's just another lure. REALLY.
Sure it's different. Bigger, thicker than others, nice paint, (still peels) three hooks, good hooks, but it's just another lure period. Certain situations like a cold front, negative following fish, search bait, throw back heck yeah my first choice.
The sound...........ahhhhhh............the sound.
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| Mike,
That would be slow, FAT, and loud. Not neccesarily in that order. hehehe |
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Location: Orland Park | Mr. Hulbert
Sploosh Splash, I was takin a bath.................
I fish one week a year on a family trip with Lungin...........we've got 5 50"ers in the past couple years, with 7 others between 48" and 49 1/2",and I don't know how many legals. (Dick's Bay, aka, Buck Lake RH) We don't fish hard, maybe on average 4 hours a day. We've caught em ALL on different baits.
Steve, once again, you have a great bait and I wish to have one some day. But depending on the water you fish, not every bait will catch fish on a particular water. Try fishing Submarine Island or Deadman's or Girl's Camp or Strawberry or Two Points or Pelican in a 30 mph wind with a surface bait (and keep your footing at the same time). Not easy. If you're able to catch a day with the water laying down, then the surface stuff can work. But if you catch a week with big wind and waves, you have to weigh your options.......which we do........and use different baits.
If we could only fish as much as yooze guys!
"16th in the PMTT MIKE JAMES"....by a lousy 1/4"!
Put a spinner, walk the dog, or a spoon on rearing lake all day, the fish will come.
BrainSX is a perfect example...........fishes Indiana with no luck...............depends on the water and if luck is on your side. And here's some advice..........throw it when the muskies are HOT!.......or hit em on the noggin!
Steve, it's a great bait.
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| Well,
Last night was my first time with the Weagle.
Second cast, moved an upper 40 inch fish that ran 5 laps in a figure 8 and didn't eat, even though it sure looked like it wanted to eat.
Must have been my figure 8 technique with the Weagle, as a follow up cast moved it again to strike on the surface, but the strike wasn't connecting to hooks.
5th cast later, 43 inches came to net.
Moved 5 other muskies, with 3 striking and I missed all hookups.
Waves where 2 - 3 feet.
Afterwards, I went to a calm lake section and casted for an hour, perfecting the Death March Swing/Swoose and if I had had this knowledge and technique perfected when I started fishing, more would have came to boat as I then went back to the waves at sunset and worked the Death March in the waves too.
This lure is a tool that when in the right hands of skilled carpenter, will do the job under any and all conditions.
Edited by ddfenner 10/6/2004 9:44 AM
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| This bait is a totally different topwater walk the dog. Besides moving much more water than any other, you can make it do more than just walk the dog on top. With some time you will learn that there are many ways to work the Weagle. Only had mine out once so farwith no fish, but I am expecting very big things. Hopefully yet this season.
p.s. - the sound this bait makes when doing the Death March is incredible. I almost jumped in to take a swipe at it.
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| Just another lure.
Hype?
I guess.
I know of about 30 lures that are out in ummm I guess the "Inner Circles" <LOL> hands.
Heard of a couple fish caught..
As a great angler says "Lures are tools" This tool is for certain projects. Give me a negative fish and I'll take my shots. Give me a hot fish and I'll put on a Bucktail.
Have fun people. Life is like the Midge. Short.
Edited by Steve Cady 10/6/2004 9:49 AM
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Location: Illinois-Indiana | JUST ANOTHER LURE....................PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quit with ALL the bullsh!t and make me some more Weagles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. I had a nice 45" hooked up for about 15 seconds yesterday and she shook off, when I looked at my bait the *#@% middle hook was crushed. 
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I've had a Weagle since May, I'm now sending it in for refurbishing/new paint. I'm a believer. |
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Location: Seymour, WI | I have a question about the Weagle, Can you throw this bait with a regular muskie jerk bait rod? or do you need an extra heavy action? I know it's a heavy bait.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I generally throw the weagle (when I had one) with a 7'6" Heavy Lamiglas or 7'3" Frank Rod (muskiefirst edition no less)....but have had my best action on it while throwing it with a 7'7" MH Loomis. The bait throws itself if the rod has backbone + flex in the tip. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I got the chance to toss a Weagle last nite...I would say you do need a bit heavier rod...I was using a 7' XHeavy All star and could have used a 7'6" XHeavy...
I will say I think this bait is unlike any I've seen....It reminds me of an oversize Viper..moves tons of water and I can see how it could get the big girls riled up...can't wait to give it a more thorough workout in better topwater conditions....
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| I have one on the way, I have one on the way, I have one on the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking for an IN state record next weekend, watch out Hoosier Muskies in the Barbee Chain!
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Muskyboy, fishing IN next weekend? Who with..lol.. Your bringing the weagle? Did I mention how expensive boat gas has gotten? |
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| Ya it's like living in Europe right now, while we ever see $1 a gallon gas in our lifetimes?
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| I'm still waiting for mine. Here all of this time I thought that I was part of the inner circle. I guess that they were just using me
I guess every inner circle needs a hole in the middle, that must be me.
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| Beav, they told me they will ship out tomorrow, so let's hope they show up. I don't even know what color pattern is on the way, so if I don't like it, maybe you can custom color it for me? I just had Stan Durst do 6 DDDs for me that turned out unbelievable!
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | God Weagles suck.
Saturday morning three people fishing, one Jackpot, one Pacemaker, one Weagle.
Guess which lure scored a fish?????????? |
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Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota | Grass,
Yes you can use a reg jerkbait rod. I use a 6'3" All Star XH and sometimes a 6'6" Loomis pool cue and can make her swoosh just fine. Probably easier on the back with a longer rod but I'm more of a man than the rest of those guys |
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Location: ft wayne, IN | Sorry for the late reply but thanks all for the advice--will put it to use this coming weekend!
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| Some idiot has one for trade on the swap board??????? |
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| muskyboy - 10/10/2004 12:21 PM
Ya it's like living in Europe right now, Steve
Hey, you're kidding... CHEAPEST Gas is in England $6.30 a gallon !! AND we have no Weagles |
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