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Location: Seymour, WI | Hello,
I've got an Ambassadeur 6500. The botton is not popping back up when I start my retrieve. The handle turns freely without engaging the spool. What part do I need to replace to fix this?
Thanks, Grass, |
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Location: Hugo, MN | Is this one of the new Red TCM's? I have the same problem with one of mine. I took it apart and cleaned and oiled it to no avail I still have to pull it up manually ever 3rd or 4th cast. |
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Location: Hartland, WI | I have had this same problem with one of my C4's, I have just lived with it. I have found that if you dont push the button down all the way, just like 7/8, it will always engage. It just is a little pain in the a**, but you do get used to it. I would love to know of a permanent fix. |
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| i had the same problem on two new reels this year - a TCM and a 6501, crank wouldn't engage after casting. i was getting them to work by giving the side of the reel a slap before starting to crank. but that's got a major inconvenience/sore hand factor to it and you just plain shouldn't have to do that with a new reel.
i took them both apart all the way - not just opening the spool, i took apart the inner gearing.
they were pretty dirty inside...cleaned them up with a toothbrush and gear oil, reassembled them, and now they're both working just fine.
one of the things that i like about those Abus is how easy it is to work on them.
however, it's "interesting" that i had the SAME problem on my two reels that were new this year...and i've never had that problem with the 6500 i got back in 1997...
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Location: Contrarian Island | i have had the same exact problem with 2 c4's..no longer have them..and one Ultra Cast...my buddy took the UC apart and filed something down..now it only does it about 5% of the time...
you would think the engineers at Abu could come up with something better.... |
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Location: Hayward WI | I've had several ABU's develop problems and I send them back to the factory in Spirit Lake, IA. I the last 2 years I've sent in 3 reels, all were fixed for FREE and returned within a week. Just send a note telling what the problem is and let them fix it.
Abu Garcia Factory Service
1900 18th Street
Spirit Lake, IA 51360
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Location: Hartland, WI | That's great, I will be mailing mine tonight.
Thanks for the info. |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | The part you need is in a half moon shape with a small spring plunger in it. The piece should be black, contains a little spring, and on top of the spring is a white plastic plunger. Very easy to replace yourself, and it doesn't cost too much for the part. I don't know what the technical part name is off the top of my head, but you can go on the abu website and get a shematic which will give you the name and part number.
Chuck Nelson at Nelson's Bait N Tackle in Rhinelander also repairs reels. Perhaps check with him on either repairing the reel, or getting the part to do it yourself. |
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Location: Montgomery,Illinois | I had the same problem with 3 different C3's and I fixed all of them by just cleaning them but I believe mine was a problem with sand in them......... Maybe next time i should just send them in it seems easier...
Jake |
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| Often times all that is neccessary is to bend the button a little bit. Grab the button with a needle nose pliers from the bottom and twist it clock-wise a little bit. |
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| my 6500 tcm just started acting up this wknd with the same problem. i had a c-4 do it last year, had it fixed by sportsmans repair and the fix lasted 2 days on the c-4. mine was a silver "L" shaped piece that helps with engaging. there is a small point on it that got wore down flat. while he was fixing it he said that its a common problem and a design flaw. i bought the 6500 in hopes that it was built a little tougher, guess i'm going to buy a Daiwa cv-z or a St. Croix like sportsmans recommended! like lambeau said give it a slap on the non handle side and it usually picks up. its a pain in the a$$, but at least you can get it going on the water. Chuck at Nelsons is an Abu guy, take it to him. |
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Location: milwaukee | This page has Ambassadeur troubleshooting tips:
http://freespace.virgin.net/dave.lumb/amb01/01trouble.html |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | Several other problems can cause this.
1. when you put your reel back together, made sure that your thumbar is ALL THE WAY UP.
2. most of our thumbar problems are because the big assm screws have worked a little loose.
Hope this helps!
Rob
http://muskynightmare.tripod.com/muskynightmare/ |
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| this link may help you fix problem yourself
http://www.timkelly.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lasreel%20maintanence2.htm...
I thought this only happened to me. |
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Location: Tomahawk, Wi | Call Sportsmans Repair tell them you need the ARM for an abu garcia. very easy to replace.
(715)693-6634 |
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| I have had this happen to me a few times. Mostly it looks to be a bit of water inside the reel and it doesn't let the part slide freely to engage the reel. A cleaning and its good to go.
I will also add that I have been converting my reels from the springs to "half moon shape with a small spring plunger" thing CiscoKid was talking about. The spring are less reliable. You will also need a new (different) clutch arm to complete the swap. |
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| It's a common problem because there are 100X as many 6500's out there as there are Millionares! Sportsman Repair is great at forgeting to mention that point!
If your reel is older you may want to get the new clutch arm and position holer as mentioned in a previous post (part #'s 22807 & 22808) Call Abu and have them send them to you, they are a snap to put in. |
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| It sounds like a problem I had w/ one of my Abu reels. I disassembled it and found there was a pin extending from the button that engaged with the spool release mechanism. That pin had slid into the button away from the spool so no engagement occured. I replaced it with a pin that was full length, just a small finishing nail of the same diameter. I filed it flat to fit and it works fine now. It's just too bad that couldn't have been a winter task... I lost a couple of weeks by the time I got to it and figured it out. Had to fish once with just one outfit! |
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| I have had this problem with my C3 6501 but never my 6500s. Great post and great answers! I wish we would have been discussing this earlier in the year! 
Steve |
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Location: Shoreview, MN | I also have a 6500 and 6501 and I've only had the problem with my 6501.
Wrapping a band-aid or a little tape around the button (especially on the underside) prevents you from pushing the button too far down and eliminates the sticking problem. Not a good permanent solution, but a quick fix when you're on the water.
This seems to happen each fall and a cleaning and lube has solved the problem each time for me so far - had it about 5-6 yrs. |
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Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs | had the same prob on one of my reels and found that is was one of the two springs had broke. Check to see that both springs ar in fact in tact and fastened properly on both ends. One spring is employed when the freespool button is psuhed and the pther is put to use for returning the button upon engaing the reel which seems to be the one youre having trouble with. An easy repair for the avgerage Joe. It helps greatly when you have the schematic which comes in the box with the reel at the ready when working on your reels. It helps you understand how the reels work and you can then identify the part when you need to order a replacement from customer service rather that asking for the springy thingy conected to the do-dad under the slideamadoodle that returns the pushbutton back to its orignal postion. Yeah that thing. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | I had this problem earlier this year. Turned out I bent the button |
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin' | CiscoKid - 9/21/2004 3:56 PM
The part you need is in a half moon shape with a small spring plunger in it. The piece should be black, contains a little spring, and on top of the spring is a white plastic plunger. Very easy to replace yourself, and it doesn't cost too much for the part. I don't know what the technical part name is off the top of my head, but you can go on the abu website and get a shematic which will give you the name and part number.
Chuck Nelson at Nelson's Bait N Tackle in Rhinelander also repairs reels. Perhaps check with him on either repairing the reel, or getting the part to do it yourself.
The new updated piece has a red plastic plunger |
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| Most of the time, a new part is not needed. I agree w/ those that said a clean and lube will solve the problem, as this is usually a water and dirt problem. However, no one has said that you need to lubricate the side plate upon which the clutch arms slide. Very important!
In an "on the water" emergency, this problem can often be fixed by squirting some lubrication in between the spool release button crack and the side plate. Hold the reel so that the lubrication will run into and down the sideplate once inside the reel, thus lubricating the surface of the plate where the clutch arms must slide. Click the mechanism in and out of gear a few times and you'll be on your way. Problem fixed...in less than 5 minutes.
Alternatively, you'll never have another problem like this if you do one simple thing: buy Diawas. Keeping six Abu musky reels operating simultaneously was wearing me out!
BrianF.
Twin Cities |
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| I see we've started offering more general suggestions. Folks above know more than me, but here are my ideas..
* anyone can break down, clean and relubricate 5000 and 6000 series reels. (If I can do it...) Abu has great exploded diagrams on their website.
* buy Smooothie drag washers from Hatterass Outfitters, ask for a copy of the installation diagram, and carefully follow the lubrication directions they provide. This does two things - first, it seems Abus are way overlubricted when new, so they collect grit, dust, etc and malfunction after a short while; the "Hatterass Way" works great for me. Second, Smooothines work much better than original washers and they are a great upgrade for just a few bucks.
* be careful with instant fixes in the boat. Brian offered a good suggestion above, but too much "squirt-um" will make its way to your drag system and allow major slippage of the washers. Once your drag washers are juiced, either from oil or water, they'll slip unless you just about lock them down by overtightening. Locking them down can flatten the two "bent metal washers" and then you'll need to replace those to regain functionality of the drag system.
* transport your reels in a way that 1) doesn't allow them to bounce around and 2) also prevents exposure to dust, sand, etc. I use one of those $30 rod bags from BPS, holds 6 or 7 rigs. I still have to shake out the bag now and then, don't know where the little debris come from, maybe Pigpen checks out my stuff while I'm sleeping.
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ABU Button won't pop up