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Location: Racine, Wi | If I use Power Pro on my trolling rods (Shimano TDR's) Is it going to be too much for the rods when a fish hits, being that there is no stretch? I just don't want to be blowing up rods left and right.
I am currently using mono, and am just unhappy with how it is working. I have missed too many fish with it. I would rather use PP if I can on my board rods. I already use them on the down rods, but I use St Croixs for those.
Also, would the TDR's be a good choice for using as sucker rods as well?
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| I use superlines of all sorts on all of my trolling rods for a multitude of species. If your rod has a soft enough tip and flexes well, you shouldn't have any trouble. Your drag setting should be set so that you get some give when the fish strikes also.
I've been using St Croix In-Shore 8' rods for trolling for the last few years, and they work great. 75% butt, 25% tip. Their glass rods are good for trolling too if you are concerned about ripping out or staightening hooks.
If your line doesn't stretch, your rod has to give.
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Location: Ogden, Ut | I agree w/ what Beaver suggested and would like to add another layer of comfort to your plan. On planer board setups there is also a bit of forgiveness in that there is a built-in 'shock absorber' in the system because there is not a straight line between the rod and the lure. The strike will pull the board back (if using in-lines) or if using big boards, the line will release and come tight after a short distance is covered; all of the impact of the strike does not have to be absorbed directly by the rod/drag. Good luck.
Kent
Edited by sorenson 8/26/2004 3:27 PM
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Location: Racine, Wi | Good advice so far. I know that alot of the Salmon boys around here run that off their rods while trolling, and I can aaaaalmost (but not really, because that would be giving Salmon waaay to much credit) see a salmon ripping a rod pretty good, and they seem to hold up pretty well.
I see what you mean Sorenson about the give that the board would add to it as well.
Do you think that would be too much as a sucker rod. I know they have good action through the tip, and they are not made of graphite, so would the sudden Jolt (or in my case, the wimpy effort to slam the hooks home)  just shatter that sucker?
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Location: Twin Cities | TDR's for sucker rods? I'll say no way. Not nearly enough backbone to move a big quick-strike rigged sucker. Think more along the lines of what the offshore folk call "stand up" rods. You need a rod with some serious guts to set a sucker.
I run TDR's for my trolling (planer board) rods, and love 'em. But I've only used mono on them, so can't help with your superline questions.
Good Fishing!
-Dean
Edited by deanj 8/26/2004 3:50 PM
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| We run salmon rods and line when trolling and have a excellant hook percentage over the years. When using my muskie rods and line we miss fish. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Ok, the sucker use is out. Good work. (I forgot about the whole backbone issue, besides, the rods I use now for sucker are ok.)
Muskycore, when you say line, are you referring to superlines, or mono? |
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| Mono....but my buddy John is the trolling wizard (aka poco) and he's telling me when we fish the big V tourney we are using braided line with drag not to tight and clicker on.
Either way works I guess as long as there is some give. I just drive the boat and get yelled at for taking corners to tight!  |
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| Joel, Powerpro is fine as long as your drag is set super lightly for trolling.
You can totally avoid superlines and run 100 pound test mono for trolling as well.
8 foot long rods really absorb the shock when trolling.
Shorter, heavy action rods for suckers, I like my 6'9" St. Croix Premier.
Look to test this out with you this fall!
Steve
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| The only thing I can add is you may have some trouble getting the super line to hold in your release clips. Some people double wrap them or use a rubber band. |
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Location: Holly, MI | Joel, it is ok to admit that Salmon fight pretty #*^@ hard. Put a four yr old on the end of my line and my smile is as big asa Ski.
Superlines will not hold very good in a planer board clip. I run 30 lb mono (Trielene big game) for all my trolling and I still wrap the clips with a rubberband. Remember not to set the hook, I know you will be tempted, when you get one on trolling. Your hooks should be razor sharp anyway and there will be a good hookset just from you going 5 mph one direction and the Muskie grabbing the lure and trying to go a different direction. A hard hookset after that will open up the hole and give her a better chance to throw the hooks. I have not trolled with any wire leaders this year at all. I have been using 50 lb mono in a 4 to 5 ft leader. I tie it to a snap (no swivel) so it is lighter and not impeed lure action. The rod end of the leader gets a ball bearing swivle. The 50 lb mono is very bite proof and we have not lost a single fish to it. Last year I was using 80 lb mono but the 50 is more supple for lure action. Give it a feel with your fingers after landing a fish for any good nicks and re tie if ther is any. It makes for very inexpensive and effective leaders. Florocarbon is to stiff.
I'm running TDR's for my down rods and propwash rods but prefer a fast action Graphite for my planer board rods so I can see the action of the lure right at the rod tip. Checking weeds on a down rod only takes a second but on a planer board rod it takes some effort. I want to know at a glance if the lure has to come in for a cleaning. |
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Location: oswego, il | I use mono and flourocarbon fro trolling. I tried superline and holding the rod but I have had two muskies hit and both of them snapped the line when they hit. The rod was a bucktail rod and the drag was way loose. I personally won't troll with superline again but the fiberglass rods probably will work.
Edited by ToddM 8/29/2004 2:49 PM
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