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| I'm new at muskie fishing and I picked up a Suick and a Phantom gliding jerkbait. I'm not used to this kind of fishing and was wondering if anybody thinks these are good baits and what's the best way to use them?
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| Jimus,
Both are great baits.The suick may need some tuning to get the desired action(side/side/wiggle).best accomplished by bending the tail down(wiggle)and turning the screw eye til she runs right.Some are runners right out of the package.I work the phantom with small/short downward twitches.When you get on the water next, take a little time to work the baits and see how they react to what YOU do.You have the wand, make 'em dance. Good luck and welcome to the fraternity! Steve |
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Location: Racine, Wi | To add what Jonesi said, with the Suick, you'll want to use more of a sweeping motion to get the bait to dive, then as you tune it, you will see what the Suick can do. Keep at it. These are great baits.
With the Suick, you can also rip the living daylights out of it. I do this when fish are following it more, and the extra speed seems to trigger them well.
Stick with it, and learn every time you are on the water. |
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Location: Rockford Il 61108 | The suick is my old standby. My father has fished with theses for years. Nothing more exciting than a topwater hit on thi lure. Lately ive been throwing the reef hawgs, and Smitty's gliders. Ive seem to have better luck with these. I think its all in the fisherman though. If you throw it enough, you'll soon catch-em. |
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| I use a 12" 80# flouro leader on my Suicks, I think the flexibility enables the Suick to wobble better, both on the down sweep and especially if you have a one in a hundred Suick that death wobbles as it rises to the surface. Couple tips....when buying, choose the one that has the eye highest on the bait. When using, make sure all the metal hangers (to which the hooks are attached) are lined up; they serve as a rudder of sorts. Bend the tail down a bit, and then keep the lure running straight (when you pull) by carefully/slightly bending a lobe on the tail. Considering how well the lobes guide the bait action, there's no need to wrench on the front eye as you might with many other baits.
I use a 9" 110-130# single strand wire leader with Phantoms (and all glide baits) because it seems to really help the bait do that slide-to-slide action. Cant quite get that action with more flexible leaders. Same thing goes for Jackpots. |
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| Hi Jim,
What size Phantom did you buy?
Thanks
Dave |
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| one word "awesome" i have both of them and i love them. |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | jimus,
One other trick you can try with the Suick is to bend the tail more to one side or the other. I will do this to get some more swing out of them. The more you bend the tail down the deeper it will dive. Also the longer sweeps of the rod will get it deeper also.
I like to use a Suick when the panfish are just finishing up spawning and people are catching them. By then plenty of muskies have been picking off injured panfish (released smaller panfish).
This is a deadly pattern that will score you fish, the muskies are already looking for easy injured fish.
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Location: Chanhassen, MN | Several of you have mentioned using a sweeping motion when working your suicks. Is this side to side or up and down ?
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | I use a up/down but you can also work in the side to side as the bait gets closer to the boat. The shorter the distance the more it will effect the action of the Suick.
The new 7 inch weighted is now out. Steve said they are on the way. I can't weight to work these little Spring treats. The muskies are going to eat them up. |
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Location: Racine, Wi | Dave, when I refer to using a sweeping motion, I mean at about a 45 degree angle to the side. If you go straight down, it is tough to get a good hookset, as you are out of position. The sweeping just tends to get the bait deeper.
Man, I can see it now, the death shimmy/rise. Verrrrry sooon. |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Good point about the 45 degree ange Joel. I actually do more of a up/down and step back when I am setting the hooks. That step back helps get your rod to about straight and the hook-set is easy. Remember to stick it to them with a wood bait, they tend to dig there teeth into Suick and getting the bait to move can be tough.
I try to do a few hook-sets when a fish eats my Suicks, just to make sure the hooks dig in.
I will be fishing somewhere soon.............maybe the Cave again.
Edited by Mikes Extreme 4/7/2005 1:36 PM
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Location: Chanhassen, MN | Thanks for the info, I really want to give some Suicks a chance this spring.
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Location: Belleville, WI | On the same topic, I bought a K & S "Little Daddy" this offseason. Can anyone compare this to how the suick and bobbie baits perform? Use the same retrieve style? |
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| Along with my brother i dont like suicks but we love Phantoms. When you use Phantoms use like 12 inch jerks down towards te water and if you're doing it right it should go from side to side/\/\/\/\/\/\. |
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | one tip on tuning suicks is if they are moving to one side only when you are jerking it
to the boat then bend the tail down on that side. this usually gets them to walk the dog better.
once you can get your suick tuned they will be awesome baits. |
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Location: Southern W.Va. | Without a question, the Phantom is one of 3 jerkbait that will be the first that I tie on and it all depends on the mood I'm in and the condition of the water. Never was a big Suick fan but they have a proven track record, I just sub other lures that will fit the bill for that lure. I like unweighted Sledges instead of Suicks. They seem ,to me anyway, to be easier to work and not as touchy in regard to action. I also think a Sledge can be worked a little faster, which is SOMETIMES a good thing.
The 3rd. jerkbait that is in the hunt for First TO BE Tied On is the Manta, easiest jerkbait to work that I've found.
Just My $.02 worth
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