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Location: Cohasset, MN | <p>From the Michigan DNR web site muskie description:"The Muskellunge is a member of the northern pike family." and "Beyond the challenge and thrill of landing a Great Lakes muskie, you will be sure to find its flesh tasty." The entire description is at <a href="http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10364_18958-45684--,00.html">http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10364_18958-45684--,00.html</a> That second sentence I quoted doesn't exactly help to sell the CPR ethic.</p>
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| not suprising when you consider that Michigan also allows general public spearing of muskies through the ice...
Edited by lambeau 7/15/2004 2:44 PM
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Location: Holly, MI | Easy now you guys. I live in and love the Great State of Michigan.
How would you expect some goofy government employee typing in info off some other sheet to know of CPR or anything else about Muskie. I hope I don't offend anyone that works for the govt.
Please don't let this post get ugly and turn into some kind of a bashing. CPR and doing the best things possible for Muskies is up to people who care for them and want to better the sport not a clerk who works in the state capitol. Some of Michigans Muskie clubs have made great strides in protecting the species including getting spearing banned on some lakes, Hudson even had the minimum limit raised to 50 inches.
I have never eaten any esox species let alone ever killed one but how can you argue about what somthing tastes like? People eat pig intestines and say they are good too. I hit the sucker run this spring and caught and released more than the 15 people around me combined. They were all very serious about keeping them because they are "so good smoked". How do you even keep them lit? Do you inhale?
I liked this quote better from the DNR page.."Individuals have weighed in at more than 100 pounds and exceeded six feet in length!"
Can anyone help me find this fish please.
Edited by lobi 7/15/2004 3:11 PM
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Location: Cohasset, MN | No bashing intended. I'm just surprised (I guess I shouldn't be) at the wide range of (mis)information out there. |
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Location: Holly, MI | Sorry for my jumping to conclusions. My response was not aimed at you but at some others who seem to enjoy the heat of battle more than intelligent conversation.
Yes, it is amusing, the mis-information. I read some advice once long time ago in a Louis L'Amore book that I liked. It was the wise old character giving advice to a young man. It went somthing like this.."Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see".
Wouldn't you love to even just see that muskie that is over 72 inches and over 100 pounds, let alone have a chance at doing battle with it? |
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| i'm all for intelligent conversation...and i do work for the gov't...
...which doesn't change the fact that people DO eat muskies. i kind of doubt that some clerk just made it up about their "tasty flesh." spearing is legal on many lakes there - and those fish get eaten. just like many many fish get eaten here in WI by fishermen exercising their _legal_ right to do so.
that's not an attempt to bash anyone or even a state, but i believe it does reflect a very different culture on the state level about how best to use the resource. i happen to think it's bad, but some might think it's a good use of it. bottom line: it's just very different.
what it really means is that groups and individuals like you who are dedicated to a CPR ethic as the best use of the limited muskie resource have a tough challenge "selling" the message in an area like Michigan. you should be applauded for successes more highly than those working in more "progressive" areas such as MN or Ontario. (and slowly...ever so slowly...WI)
alternately, i'll grant that it's possible that someone's figured out how to keep _more_ people happy by having different areas with different restrictions so that it can used in many different ways (ie spearing some lakes, trophy fishing shots on other lakes).
although, i must admit, in a perverse sort of way, i really like the spearing decoys they use. i've toyed with the idea of collecting some, but it makes me feel guilty and dirty... 
Edited by lambeau 7/15/2004 5:01 PM
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Location: Holly, MI | lambeau - 7/15/2004 5:59 PM
although, i must admit, in a perverse sort of way, i really like the spearing decoys they use. i've toyed with the idea of collecting some, but it makes me feel guilty and dirty...
Ha ha, me too. I have a carved Pike decoy that is about two feet long and weighs about 5 pounds. It even has an eye on top as if you would attach a rope (note, rope not string) to it for decoying purposes. I use it for a book end in my office.
I'm going to start a post on fish crap in peops offices, who has "stuff" |
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Location: Monee, Illinois | I have never eatin a musky. I have heard they taste just like NPike. I know of some people who have and who are TRUE CPR fisherman. Both cases the musky died after the catch. Both cases there was nothing that could be done. I would not intend to kill a musky period! But if one would die I would eat the fish instead of the fish just floating around the lake. At least I would feel the fish served a purpose. Unless the fish was over 50 then if she died she would be on my wall. What I do hate is when you see a guy beating on a musky to get a $1 lure out of his mouth. Now that gets me yelling.
Good Luck,
Pgaschulz
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Location: Carney, Mi (in da UP eh!) | In da UP there is actually a group of people starting a spearing club called the "darkhouse club" or something like that. One of it's leaders is an ex-dnr officer. last winter a local outdoor program "Discovering with Buck Lavasser" showed them spear a musky (approx. 45") made me sick to my stomach to see it hit the ice and flop around...they seem to firmly believe that it is a sport and will fight for it's rights... to each there own...but it's got to be hard to CPR a sub-legal fish with holes punched in it's sides,you know it has to happen....randy |
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| Don't judge a state by what an idiot Michigan government employee wrote.
Having lived in Michigan's lower penninsula, then the upper, now the lower penninsula again, I can say with cautious confidence that Michigan is making great progress in developing its muskie fishing.
The UP is its own world, and many Yoopers won't learn what they don't care to know. Those folks think they know all they need to know because, of course, the UP is the UP. Other Yoopers are cool. A muskie spearing club doesn't suprise me. On the other hand, sports shops like Wilderness Outfitters in Iron Mountain and Lucky's ouside Iron River preach catch and release, not just of muskies but of all large fish. (Lance Lucky is a master musky dude, by the way.)
Last, I once ate a legal muskie I was not able to revive. Just like pike. Big deal.
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Interesting muskie descrip from Michigan DNR site.