Line Size
safetymatch
Posted 4/7/2004 12:05 AM (#103144)
Subject: Line Size


Why is it everyone seems to be using Power Pro 80?
kevin
Posted 4/7/2004 12:49 AM (#103146 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





Posts: 1335


Location: Chicago, Beverly
Lots of good reviews on the power pro and the 80lbs is a little thicker line(diameter). I use 65lbs tuff line myself, but after winning a free spool of the power pro will have to give it a shot.
Yo MAMA
Posted 4/7/2004 1:00 AM (#103148 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


It is a reliable line with small diameter and the strength necessary to both hold onto giant violent hogs and heavy expensive jerk baits when you backlash! It's durability is great but the price not as nice. It has little twist and no line burying in my experience (couple hundred fish using it).......
lobi
Posted 4/7/2004 6:58 AM (#103162 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





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Location: Holly, MI
Wait till you feel a fish on the other end of virtually no strech line! You can almost feel your suckers heartbeat.
Sponge
Posted 4/7/2004 8:16 AM (#103168 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


Yo Mama is right; we use it to lasso giant pigs during neighborhood rodeos, and it will hold even the most violent hog! Also makes great trip wire in the office halls...
Parman99
Posted 4/7/2004 9:19 AM (#103178 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size




Posts: 87


Location: Wauwatosa, WI
Power pro 80lb is good overall line. I use that on all my rods, but most of my friends like one rod with 60lb test and a 2nd rod with 100lb depending what they throw. I don't see the need, but thats just me.
Bob Ryan
muskyboy
Posted 4/7/2004 9:44 AM (#103184 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


I use 50 and 80 pound Cortland Spectron for casting, and I have never had a problem since it was introduced. I am starting to use 100 lb Power Pro for trolling, because I just feel safer going after big fish with 80 lb to 100 lb test and Power Pro works great in the bitter cold weather.

Your terminal tackle has to be top notch and these days that is more of a concern than your line!

Steve
Lunkerhunter
Posted 4/7/2004 9:55 AM (#103187 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size




Posts: 71


Location: Waukesha, WI
Power Pro is not better than Tuff-Line. I think these both of these lines are the least expensive lines that you can buy. You don't lose the jerk baits on professional overruns, you don't lose fish, and you don't need to retie often. If you are a stickler for details, you can reverse the line in the second (third?) year. Sounds like a good way to catch fish and very inexpensive.

Edited by Lunkerhunter 4/7/2004 9:56 AM
Safetymatch
Posted 4/7/2004 10:03 PM (#103292 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


But isn't 80# overdoing it? This will be my first time hunting for muskie...

What would you guys say would be the minimum line poundage to use for casting baits for muskie?
kevin
Posted 4/7/2004 10:25 PM (#103300 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





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Location: Chicago, Beverly
Technically 80lbs could be considered over doing it, but because of the line diameter on these new superlines you have to step up what pound test you use. 80lbs power pro might be a smaller diameter then even the old classic Cortland musky Master in 36lbs test. The flip side of the coin is also if you were to use something like a 25-35lbs test power pro casting large Musky bait it could actually cause breakages.
lobi
Posted 4/7/2004 11:35 PM (#103306 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





Posts: 1137


Location: Holly, MI
Kevin and Lunker have it right about the professional over-runs. If you cast hard with a 2-5 oz lure and get the old birds nest your spool will stop so fast that a lighter "super line" will snap and your lure will keep on sailing. Remember there is virtually no strech on these lines.

I cast with 65 lb power pro, they say it is like 16 lb diameter mono. I too think the 80 is a bit over sized. That is on my two abu's and heavier rods. On my light rod with the lo-pro shimano I'm casting with 30 lb power pro. That rod is only for stuff under 1 ounce or so, light bucktails, small traps etc. It is really my pike rod but I take it ski fishing also.

You will love the no strech of the superlines when you have a fish on the other end. You can feel way more than with a strechy mono. You can also know what your lure is doing when casting or trolling better.
Safetymatch
Posted 4/7/2004 11:56 PM (#103309 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


So would you say the size of line chosen depends not so much on the fish you are after, but on chance of backlashes, size of lure, cover being fished and whether your trolling or casting?

I've heard of skis being caught on 20# line.. but that its not good for them cause it stress them more than nessacary as you have to fight them longer to the boat. I thought then a 30-40 PP would be ok. See like to cast really far, and i'm thinking since spending the money on a superline, why push up the line poundage until it's back up to a 20lbs mono diameter? I want a thinner line to cast further, but definately want it heavy enough to not lose my first muskie. I don't think I own more than one musky bait that won't float if it backlashes off. So do you guys agree that a 65bls test is enough for that big one, and then could you drop down to 40bls test and still feel comfortable? Or like this post started, stick with the comfort of an eight pound line? That's it.. just don't want to spend anymore money on lures. line or rods (that aren't nessacary) before opening weekend.
MiserMike
Posted 4/8/2004 9:05 AM (#103338 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size




Posts: 57


Location: Racine WI
I just went to superline last season, and, thinking lighter line/leaders might produce more hits, tried 35# TUF line. Everybody told me I'd have trouble with backlashes, cutting in, and breaking off, but it hasn't happened.
In fairness, I have to add that I did not have a big fish pull really hard on it, don't throw heavy baits, and didn't fish enough (not more than 7-8 days ) to get a major backlash. I'm going to get some 65# this year, but leave the 35# on my light combo -- I fish a lot of light bucktails and little topwaters like the Surf-O-Reno and small Mud Puppy with it. It's like ultralight for panfish: scale model fishing.
Tahoe
Posted 4/8/2004 9:12 AM (#103342 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





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Location: MN
One of the other reasons folks use 80lb line is du to the size of the lures we also use. 80lb is goodoverall and I think you'll find alot of folks going to even 100lb for the heavy lures. Those lures force the line to tak more abuse and you need a strong line to handle that. Heck - I donot want to lose lures due to line size, so I go big! I do have 50lb on my Curado matched with my flippin stick for smaller baits and that set up is a BEAUT!
Evar D
Posted 4/8/2004 10:48 AM (#103358 - in reply to #103292)
Subject: RE: Line Size




Posts: 184


Location: Rockford Il 61108
If you want to know why guys use 50 pd line and up, try throwing some thirty pound mono and see how long it takes for your line to break. I dont take chances anymore especially after losing muskies because of cheap leaders and mono line.
safetymatch
Posted 4/8/2004 4:00 PM (#103403 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


Hey, thanks for the advice. I don't wanna push my luck with this post, seein how i'm a guest, but I was hoping to get a rule of thumb out of this.. Like for example, line poundage should be twice as large as the average fish your going to be catching. So fishing for muskie with average of 25lbds, one ouhgt to use 50lb line. Or fishing for bass with average of 4lbs, line ought to be eight. (plus lure weight & cover)

Are there any line rule heuristics like this?
Slamr
Posted 4/8/2004 5:45 PM (#103419 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
The line we use doesnt necessarily equate to the size of the fish we're going to catch. I use 80lb Spectron on my jerkbait reels not because i hope or expect to catch 80 or even 40 lb fish, but more because of the size of the baits I'm using. My jerkbaits can be somewhat heavy, and I feel more secure using a heavier thicker line gives me more cushion against that dreaded snap-off from a bad backlash in mid-cast.
Just my way of doing things.
BTPF
Posted 4/8/2004 9:48 PM (#103449 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





Posts: 78


Location: Pardeeville, WI
If you get anything less than 50# superline your going to be in trouble. When you backlash your
favorite bait goes sailing to the bottom of the lake and you will have a serious backlash.

50 pound line and smaller is so thin that the line cuts into your spool about a quarter inch during a backlash and then your in trouble. If you have 5 poles lying around its no big deal. If you do like what I did when I first started out having only 1 pole then your day is ruined. Go heavy, I have caught average size bass on 100# line and it is still a lot of fun. Your line isnt going to break and leave your bait hanging in the fishs mouth only to have it die a few days later.

You never know when that 75 pounder is going to appear

Go with 80# or even 100# line. After that you wont even have to worry about your line for a few years.

BTW- Is it true that anything caught with line heavier than 80# will not be recognized as a world record?
BTPF
Posted 4/8/2004 9:51 PM (#103452 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size





Posts: 78


Location: Pardeeville, WI
Disregard.

Edited by BTPF 4/8/2004 9:55 PM
safetymatch
Posted 4/8/2004 11:41 PM (#103461 - in reply to #103144)
Subject: RE: Line Size


Hey you guys, thanks for all the great line advice. I suppose I'll go with the minimum suggested here that of 50lbs test line, given that i don't wanna mess up my spool or lose a lure to a backlash, but wanna cast as far as I can. I guess now i'll have to research on how hard that 70lb muskie can pull.. maybe I'll end up back with the 80lb line most of you are using (and dreaming;) with. Thanks again...