"Pay-to-win" Muskie Content
Weiseyyy
Posted 7/21/2025 3:59 PM (#1034478)
Subject: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content





Posts: 68


Location: Minnesota
Hello.

I'm writing to hear other thoughts on this topic.

As much as I'd like to continue learning about Muskies and all that comes with them, I have a real hard time paying for information, because to me it's by definition a "pay-to-win" situation. I dislike the idea that money can set me ahead in the knowledge department, or in the case of paying for guided trips, the "catching a personal best" department, and then pretending like it was all thanks to me.

I'd really like to read and watch the content on a platform like Muskie Insider, for example, but again, it's all behind a paywall. Don't get me wrong, I understand experienced guys that have spent years learning what they know wanting to get something extra in return for sharing the information; 100% understandable, but it does suck to then, for someone like myself, to not be able to view that individual's content anymore cause of this dilemma.

This same idea goes beyond just information. Technically buying any kind of equipment could be pay-to-win as well, though I think it's obviously not quite the same thing as spending a couple hundred bucks and getting in return information that has taken a lot of people decades to gather themselves.

Is this relatable for anyone else or am I just being illogical?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Alex
Brian Hoffies
Posted 7/21/2025 5:31 PM (#1034480 - in reply to #1034478)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content





Posts: 1784


I might be a bit dense but are you complaining about having to subcribe to a Muskie content channel? If so I'm pretty sure subscribing is optional. If you want to know what the other guy knows you pay. If you don't you don't. Sorry, I might not be getting what you are getting at.
TCESOX
Posted 7/21/2025 6:21 PM (#1034482 - in reply to #1034478)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content





Posts: 1374


There is more than enough free information from very good sticks, right here on this site, to catch all the muskies you need, including your PB. The 4 biggest fish I caught were before I knew about Muskies Inc., or this site, and didn't know squat. I've learned a lot since then, and am a lot more adept at catching fish. You don't need to pay anything to get better. They just make you want to.
raftman
Posted 7/21/2025 8:26 PM (#1034483 - in reply to #1034482)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content




Posts: 576


Location: WI
I have more sympathy for the guy wanting to monetize their years of experience than the guy upset it is put behind a paywall. I always thought Saric and heitings book took years off my learning curve when I got into the sport. What little money they got from me purchasing it, I’m glad they did.
youbetcha
Posted 7/21/2025 8:56 PM (#1034485 - in reply to #1034478)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content




Posts: 19


Location: Wright County MN
Most of the big guys out there fish premier waters. Im not saying it doesnt take skill to catch fish on them its just easier. You would learn more fishing your local waters with someone whos fished them a bit. If not look up their seasonal movements and target areas based on that to build patterns.

Edited by youbetcha 7/21/2025 8:57 PM
R/T
Posted 7/22/2025 8:33 AM (#1034488 - in reply to #1034478)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content




Posts: 101


Personal choice IMO. I have had an In Fisherman subscription for years. That is paying for content but in the most traditional way I guess. But still the same as paying for content online. in my view. Paying for a guide? I have not done it as I have always wanted to do it myself. But now that I am older and have nothing to prove to myself I am more open to it. Not that I ever had an issue with it as surely it is a way to learn and spend good time on the water. A big shout out to this free site where there is always good info.
chuckski
Posted 7/22/2025 10:07 AM (#1034492 - in reply to #1034478)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content




Posts: 1542


Location: Brighton CO.
Fishing and time on the water and time in the woods are golden, but short lived. We spend our lives at work, with our families, taking care of our homes. Back in the day living in California I was a long way from Muskie country. I'd work 60 hours a week come home Saturday afternoon and watch the In-fisherman I recorded while at work. I had In-fisherman magazine, Fishing Facts, Fur Fish and Game and others. I still have my all my old VHS tapes and all kinds of DVD's along with every single issue of Musky Hunter and Esox Angler. Never mind all the tackle I have. And it's not cheap to drive to the Northwoods from my home in Colorado and rent a place to stay. Unit cost per Muskie?
Solitario Lupo
Posted 7/22/2025 10:47 AM (#1034495 - in reply to #1034478)
Subject: Re: "Pay-to-win" Muskie Content





Location: PA Angler
The only thing I pay for are my lures and gear to catch. Everything thing else is free to read or see vids on the net. My knowledge from catching them is learned by myself. If I am spoon feed then I don’t think I can catch them like I do now. It took time to learn and time put in helps learn how to get bigger fish as well.