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Location: Lower Peninsula | I recently ordered a musky rod from my favorite rod brand for smaller species, Fenwick. However, the trigger piece is completely differently shaped and angled than on my other two musky rods. My other two rods are an Okuma SCT and a Shimano Skixx they have a smaller trigger angled slightly up the rod while this fenwick has a thicker trigger angled slightly towards the base of the rod. Looking at other rods I see this different style of trigger is popular (savage gear rods, musky shop rods, okuma psycho stick).
How do people hold these rods? Do you put all your fingers above the trigger? Does it not feel uncomfortable to put this style of trigger between your fingers? Please advise I’m really annoyed at this new rod and now have to pay shipping to return it.
I will try to attach a picture to show the two kinds of trigger. I mostly just want to spur a conversation on this because I wasn’t aware of these rod differences before.
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Location: Oconomowoc, WI | All four fingers above for that style.
St. Croix made the same change a few years ago and I hated it at first as well, since I was used to the traditional trigger. Over some time; it became comfortable, especially with low pro file reels like the 400 tranx.
I had the same I initial reaction since I didn’t want to get “used to” a different style of rod, since was a high end rod. That being said, I think I prefer it. Especially for long trips with long days.
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Location: Western U.P. | The older rods that you are used to have a standard trigger reel seat, and the newer one is called a palming seat. Trigger reel seats have been around forever, but the palming seats have become more popular in probably the last 5 years or so as said above. Because trigger reel seats have been around for so long, there are actually quite a few different styles/shapes are made by various manufacturers. There are only a few different kinds of palming seats currently out there, and more/different ones will probably continue to become available. Palming seats are designed to have all of your fingers in front of the trigger, which puts the reel in the palm of your hand. The following is a link to a larger rod part supplier that shows all of the casting seats they offer. There is quite a variety of triggers out there with a few different palmers.
https://mudhole.com/collections/casting-reel-seats
I was in a similar situation as you a while ago. The only reel seats I had ever used for decades were triggers. I DID NOT like the palming seats when they were first introduced, but eventually built a jerk bait rod for myself with one just to give it a fair try. It took a few years, but now just about every Musky casting rod I build for myself has a palming seat. The bigger Fuji PSS is my personal favorite, and I'm starting to build my personal Bass/Walleye casting rods with it also. It gives me better rod control, and feels so much more comfortable in my hand, especially so with the smaller Bass/Walleye rods & reels. I'm not trying to convince you one way or another, just that there are many different options out there. If you ever do try a palming seat, you may end up liking it... or maybe not. Most of my customers do still prefer trigger reel seats though. I enjoy trying new or different types of equipment, techniques etc while building rods and fishing... it adds a bit more fun to it. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | If I palm I have three fingers above the trigger or for better hook sets I have My hand on the fore grip. For lures that I use a smaller jerks or twitches I palm. My Thornes Predator has the big trigger grip. |
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Location: PA Angler | I put the trigger in between my fingers. Two on top two on bottom my thumb stays on reel. Never gave it too much thought just started using it. Now I think it’s better as for a big fish you can grip on to something. Also helps with casting those big lures imo.
Something you might want to give it a try. |
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Location: deephaven mn | just get comfortable, everyones hand size is different. 3 fingers in front 4 fingers in front i dosen't matter
the only way i'll fish the low profile tranx is with a palming grip, other wise my hand cramps up |
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Location: Brighton CO. | Big Ray Kennedy told Tony Rizzo "I like to hold my hand so I can thumb the spool. Tony's reply "I hold my rod with my hand on the fore grip, and your hand is twice the size of mine, If I hold my rod like you I'd lose a couple rigs a year" Or something along those lines. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Just looking at the St Croix website and all the new Legend Toiurnament Muskie rods have pistol handle grips. I have a TI rod with the revolution reel seat which I like. But I also like to switch it up with a rod that has a palming grip or trigger. I'm not sure about the marketing decision to only offer pistol handle grips on their flagship muskie rods.
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Location: Lower Peninsula | Thanks for the discussion guys. I still think I’m going to have to return it, it but I guess I can see why people like them over traditional triggers. I have not had any issues with the regular reel seat triggers and I don’t like to have any inconsistencies across my gear. If st croix and other manufacturers are making them I’m sure there must be something too them.
Maybe I need to cough up the money for another skixx rod (traditional trigger) when I see one on sale they sure are nice if a bit more than a bit overpriced. |
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| I got a big nasty with palming grip a few years ago , gave it a good try and i cannot get use to it (hand size and finger lenght maybe ) feels like i will throw the rod while casting ! so i cut-off half the grip (palming part) and epoxyed half a standard grip and love it now . |
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