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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Hitting a small lake/big pond in N.IL tomorrow JUST for muskies out of the kayak.
Three things will happen:
1. see nothing, do nothing but float about and cast.
2. see nothing, do nothing but do fall in
3. see something, then fall in.
About 20 trips out on the little boat this year so far, only fell in once....but usually bass and panfishin...
Bets anybody? |
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Location: Brighton CO. | Move slowly but deliberately should see something this time of year and have fun. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running. |
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| Keep your center of gravity (butt) low, centered and you will be fine. Shoulders should stay roughly within the width of the kayak. Easy to get excited, lean too far and splash.
We kayak rivers and lakes with a group during the summer and one of our group, an experienced kayaker, forgot the basics trying to take a pic of the group on a river, leaned a little too far trying to get the shot. Ended up in the water and her iPhone is somewhere on the bottom. (I know all this but about a month ago hooked a bass while fishing for crappie, last second as I reached for it, it dove and I grabbed for it and almost capsized. Just dumb, but easy to do)
Hope you have a great day.
Edited by North of 8 9/30/2022 11:19 AM
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Location: Plover, WI | sworrall - 9/30/2022 11:06 AM
You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running.
HAHA so true!!
Or stuck in my boat! |
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| sworrall - 9/30/2022 11:06 AM
You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running.
Hmmm, seems he may have hinted at such a thing in a post or two. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | North of 8 - 9/30/2022 12:18 PM
sworrall - 9/30/2022 11:06 AM
You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running.
Hmmm, seems he may have hinted at such a thing in a post or two.
Using the word "slow" entails some kind of movement. Worrall fishes slower than that. |
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Location: SE, WI. | Slamr - 9/30/2022 12:42 PM North of 8 - 9/30/2022 12:18 PM sworrall - 9/30/2022 11:06 AM You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running. Hmmm, seems he may have hinted at such a thing in a post or two. Using the word "slow" entails some kind of movement. Worrall fishes slower than that. Maybe we just Refer to him as Mr Molasses;) Use Circle hooks, so there’s no hook set, then No, Fall In Drink! JD |
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Location: Stevens Point, Wi. | Slamr - 9/30/2022 12:42 PM
North of 8 - 9/30/2022 12:18 PM
sworrall - 9/30/2022 11:06 AM
You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running.
Hmmm, seems he may have hinted at such a thing in a post or two.
Using the word "slow" entails some kind of movement. Worrall fishes slower than that.
The tortoise and the hare. Guess who wins. |
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Location: SE, WI. | ghoti - 10/1/2022 12:10 PM Slamr - 9/30/2022 12:42 PM North of 8 - 9/30/2022 12:18 PM sworrall - 9/30/2022 11:06 AM You will not fall in. Slamr NEVER moves slowly unless stuck in the back of a boat I am running. Hmmm, seems he may have hinted at such a thing in a post or two. Using the word "slow" entails some kind of movement. Worrall fishes slower than that. The tortoise and the hare. Guess who wins. My Guess is the tortoise Wins! His foot is on the Trolling Motor;) JD |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Two weekends in a row....5 hour trips. Had 3 fish up each time, lost two on the 8. Something about a massive hookset on a muskie at my feet while standing that has me needing to grow a little courage!
*but at least she looks cool all rigged out and ready.
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| Nice set up! As to the standing up and setting the hook, concern there just shows good judgement.
Game warden I know just spent multiple days looking for a guy that they think went out on lake in a paddle boat after leaving a bar and hasn't been seen since.
Warden has a 12" helix mounted on his work boat just for that purpose. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | North of 8 - 10/10/2022 9:32 AM
Nice set up! As to the standing up and setting the hook, concern there just shows good judgement.
Game warden I know just spent multiple days looking for a guy that they think went out on lake in a paddle boat after leaving a bar and hasn't been seen since.
Warden has a 12" helix mounted on his work boat just for that purpose.
So I DO stand and cast the whole time. The boat is wide enough and stable enough that if you follow a few simple rules, casting is pretty easy:
-If you need it, pull-up strap to go from sitting to standing and casting (easier said than done on time #28 of the day)
-DO NOT turn your feet away from pointing towards the bow!!!! Small adjustments and you'll get in a groove over time, but stay straight if you want to stay dry.
-TO TURN YOUR BODY when casting - twist at the hips (and for us older guys) engage your core. If you step versus twisting, boat become no happy.
-GO SLOW. Measure each cast and keep a mental note at all times where the rods stowed behind you are.
-PFDs at all times - DUH
-If you feel yourself losing your balance, just sit down!!!!
Need to write an article: My first year kayak fishing. Fell in once and I suck at fishing. |
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| I think an article is a great idea. I see more and more guys fishing from yaks on the chain where I live. All ages and sizes. Heck, last year saw a guy in a kayak similar to yours, pedaling away that had to be at least 300 pounds. The guy I was fishing with and I stopped and watched for a minute as he was coming across the lake from the landing. Had to be a foot of human being on each side of the yak, but he was moving briskly and steadily. Great exercise. Saw him later and appeared to be jigging for walleye. (He did not stand) |
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Location: Lower Peninsula | I am on the younger side and don’t currently have a boat. I fish for large pike and musky from my kayak (used a fishing paddle board until this spring). I really enjoy it and will continue to use my kayak even after I get the boat situation resolved next season. The exercise aspect that is already there with musky fishing (ripping rubber, burning blades, working a glider, etc) gets multiplied by relocating and setting up drifts. The wind is killer in small crafts and anchoring constantly is frankly inefficient at covering water. I only drop an anchor is I am working a particular fish.. The best part is how you can adjust your location with bucktails. It’s almost like a castable trolling motor lol. You can also adjust your direction by leaning and such. The only downside is that it can really beat you up after several hours of standing/sitting/paddling/casting.
I haven’t had any problems while fighting fish. I have caught two 40” musky boatside while standing now (other further out too) and balance was the last thing in my mind while fighting them. I haven’t fallen in yet but I tend to drop stuff here and there… |
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| Does anybody have a recommendation for an easily deployed anchor for kayak fishing?
We have a group of retirees that kayak together once a week starting in May and one of my favorite trips is the Wis. River north of McNaughton. One of our group has had really good luck fishing smallies on that stretch but the problem is that you find them around structure, sweepers, etc., but if the river has any kind of current, getting in more than one cast can be a problem. Watched him cast a popper style top water and a nice smallie just miss, he didn't have time to get in a second cast. Had to paddle back against current just to get in a second cast. I don't want to invest in a pedal kayak like Slamr's. If I was younger, that would be a good way to go. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | Maybe hang a bucket over the side and use it like a drift sock. |
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Location: Lower Peninsula | You can install an anchor trolley on the front of your kayak. I think they are called anchor wizards. You could probably make a similar kind of thing on your own without too much hassle. |
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| RikkiTikkii - 10/11/2022 1:06 PM
You can install an anchor trolley on the front of your kayak. I think they are called anchor wizards. You could probably make a similar kind of thing on your own without too much hassle.
Thanks, I will check that out. Sounds like it would be handy and not requiring putting a wet, muddy anchor back in the cockpit with me. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | Canoe's and Kayak's are like a boat where you can always do something to make it more fishable and if you have something that's just not right some other fishermen has in countered the same thing and may come up with something that may help and put in on the market. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Power pole Spike for a shallow water anchor. We have one, works great on a canoe or fishing Yak with 12 volt. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Do you have to put that on a trailer, or can it go on a car rack? |
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Location: NW WI | I have a collapsing grapple, it works, but the downside is it's not the easiest to free up if your anywhere with timber or if the wind still moves you and you dredge up alot of vegetation. It's also not the quickest to deploy.
Ended up just tying up a small wood splitting maul head. Just wrapped 9' of rope around it and the wedge shape sits comfortably in the rubber mesh pocket between my bum and knee so it's out of the way and no access rope to get tangled. If I wanna deploy it I just toss it over the edge the rope unwinds itself like a yo-yo as it sinks, if the depth is less than 9' the anchor just sits on the wound rope around- so it kinda auto depth sets itself. Draw backs of this is it isn't going to hold you firm in high winds/current. |
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| drifted a river with the wifes cousin one time and he had an old window weight that he ran out the back of the canoe that slowed our drift just enough. They are cylindrical so they don't get hung up on much, If I was fishing current type situations, I would look into that. |
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| chasintails - 10/12/2022 8:49 AM
drifted a river with the wifes cousin one time and he had an old window weight that he ran out the back of the canoe that slowed our drift just enough. They are cylindrical so they don't get hung up on much, If I was fishing current type situations, I would look into that.
Many years ago, back in the 60s, my parents rented a cabin on a lake and the row boat that came with it had a couple of those window weights on a rope to use as an anchor. Quite a racket when you were shaking the mud off them. Hadn't thought about that in a long time. |
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Location: PA Angler | That’s a nice setup there. I got one but haven’t brought it out for Muskie maybe this year I’ll have to get it going. Seems like it would be fun getting drag around for a little bit. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | When I was a teen ager a guy in the newspaper caught a 16 pound Muskie on a window weight bouncing it off the bottom looking for a rock bar. (It got tangled in it's gills) |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I was JUST told today that when I retire from M1st, instead of a gold watch, Mr. Worrall is getting me:
https://www.fishusa.com/Power-Pole-Micro-Anchor?quantity=1&L-Model1=... |
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Location: NW WI | chuckski - 10/12/2022 12:05 PM
When I was a teen ager a guy in the newspaper caught a 16 pound Muskie on a window weight bouncing it off the bottom looking for a rock bar. (It got tangled in it's gills)
Guess that's one way to put lead in your fish * Ba dum tssshhh* |
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| Bare with me.....how about tying a rope onto the handle of a empty Tide detergent bottle? Fill it with sand or rocks and drag it behind you in currant. If it gets hung up (being rounded it shouldn't) worse case you cut the rope. You wouldn't be out hardly anything cash wise.
Just a thought. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Brian Hoffies - 10/12/2022 9:45 PM
Bare with me.....how about tying a rope onto the handle of a empty Tide detergent bottle? Fill it with sand or rocks and drag it behind you in currant. If it gets hung up (being rounded it shouldn't) worse case you cut the rope. You wouldn't be out hardly anything cash wise.
Just a thought.
Would have to be on a trolley system that brings the can to the back of the kayak. Or you flip. There's a bunch of options out there like this. I dont like it because it means more monkeyfcking |
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| Don't plan on kayaking anytime soon, but was wondering what landing net were u guys using. I'm looking for a smaller more compact net that could be used from shore. Not looking at a net for 50 inchers, got one of those, even though I don't use it much,lol, but fish up to 40? kdawg |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | kdawg - 11/4/2022 10:39 AM
Don't plan on kayaking anytime soon, but was wondering what landing net were u guys using. I'm looking for a smaller more compact net that could be used from shore. Not looking at a net for 50 inchers, got one of those, even though I don't use it much,lol, but fish up to 40? kdawg
I'm going with a Boga. Figure any fish that is deeply hooked, will cut hooks quick. Losing fish and not getting a pic, not a big deal.
*and no, I have not seen the successeses necessary to try these ideas out
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Location: NW WI | kdawg - 11/4/2022 10:39 AM
Don't plan on kayaking anytime soon, but was wondering what landing net were u guys using. I'm looking for a smaller more compact net that could be used from shore. Not looking at a net for 50 inchers, got one of those, even though I don't use it much,lol, but fish up to 40? kdawg
I've used a short 1 piece Ranger and was happy with it. But either I left it at a landing, it got stolen out of my bed, or somehow flew out my bed. Using a short telescoping Beckman right now because it was the only thing locally available. For $38 my only complaint is the bag could be deeper but it's gotten me by.
HOWEVER- I think this winter I'll be ordering a Whisker Seekers XTN. I think it might also suit your needs as well. |
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