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| thats the word today that the middle of August the border will reopen, just curious if you all think it will actually happen?? |
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| I'm basing this off nothing really, but yeah I do. Gotta happen sometime right? Vax rates look good up there, and that seems to be their biggest concern. |
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| my thoughts as well, i just hope it doesnt take a day of waiting in line to get in if it does!  |
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Location: oswego, il | Dave T. - 7/16/2021 10:30 AM
my thoughts as well, i just hope it doesnt take a day of waiting in line to get in if it does! :)
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| I don't think so, but maybe.
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| hope so, and I think it will.. due to pressure from both sides, Trudeau will have a tough time not following through unless something crazy happens in the next 30 days ..I already made plans for September anticipating it'll be open !
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| IAJustin - 7/16/2021 12:49 PM
hope so, and I think it will.. due to pressure from both sides, Trudeau will have a tough time not following through unless something crazy happens in the next 30 days ..I already made plans for September anticipating it'll be open !
yep, i have a reservation we made for last year that rolled over to this year in September, hoping to go up there for the week.. its been too long! |
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| Faux "vaccine" is required. Guess they only want sheeple in Canada |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | ToTheWoods - 7/16/2021 3:37 PM
Faux "vaccine" is required. Guess they only want sheeple in Canada
Fully vaccinated only, your quite welcome to stay home
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| Love fishing Canada but have no problem staying home. I have a 99.1% chance of surviving Covid. Shot is just that a shot. Doesn't even guarantee prevention and nobody knows what the long term effects are. We can however see what the short term effects are and they are many. My wife with an auto-immune disease cannot not risk getting the shot which means she cannot go and I won't go without her. |
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| i dont understand the fear of getting this vaccine. this isnt the first vaccine ever made, and how else do we get through this?
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Location: Athens, Ohio | Funny how it's the un-vaxed that are filling up the hospitals; Delta variant up all over US among the un-vaxed. They are the ones keeping this thing dragging on and creating worse variants. My guess is this latest upward trend will keep things closed and cause further local shutdowns until folks shut off Fox and get some sense about themselves. This is Public Health, not Politics. m |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Actually what’s keeping things down are the liberals with their fear mongering. Not the unvaxed. The unvaxed are wide open living their lives. |
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| The vaccinated will protect those that cannot be vaccinated, and are the ones likely to suffer the most, if infected. |
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | I don't think it will open... new variant's all of the time,...Delta, China, Woohaun variants, ect. How about the Muskie variant ?
plus being vaccinated doesn't mean #*#*e anymore...Remember "the so called experts"
said if you get the Vac. you could return to normal life.
Follow the science my arse!... what a crock ! The govt. lies every time they open their mouths.
No Canadian trips this year.
Just think how big and hungry those fish will be next summer
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| Nope. I'd think late fall towards Xmas if it does. |
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| Kirby Budrow - 7/16/2021 4:27 PM
Actually what’s keeping things down are the liberals with their fear mongering. Not the unvaxed. The unvaxed are wide open living their lives.
That is not the case in states like Arkansas and Utah, where the Republican governors are pleading with their citizens to get vaccinated. The reason is simple, their hospitals are filling with the unvaccinated. |
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| Kirby Budrow - 7/16/2021 4:27 PM
Actually what’s keeping things down are the liberals with their fear mongering. Not the unvaxed. The unvaxed are wide open living their lives.
??? Not sure at all, what you mean by this. The "liberal" 7 county metro area has a vaccination rate in the mid 70%s, of those 16 and older, and things have been pretty much back to normal for about a month and a half now, and infection rates are at the lowest they have been since the start of the pandemic, and holding flat. |
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Location: oswego, il | TCESOX - 7/16/2021 6:32 PM
Kirby Budrow - 7/16/2021 4:27 PM
Actually what’s keeping things down are the liberals with their fear mongering. Not the unvaxed. The unvaxed are wide open living their lives.
??? Not sure at all, what you mean by this. The "liberal" 7 county metro area has a vaccination rate in the mid 70%s, of those 16 and older, and things have been pretty much back to normal for about a month and a half now, and infection rates are at the lowest they have been since the start of the pandemic, and holding flat.
There is a lot of media that would never report this. I blame the continued closed border on conspiracy media where it squarely belongs. |
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| The Canadian Government announced that they will allow the Toronto Blue Jays baseball team back to play in Toronto on July 30th. However it sounds like there will be several safeguards in place.
I'm still of the opinion that all governments should do what they believe is for the over-all good of their country. I'm not qualified to make that judgement so I'll go along with the elected officials. |
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| I vaguely remember when this all started that the elected officials said the lockdowns were only supposed to be 2 weeks? I also see that some of the officials are offering beer and lottery tickets for people to get the shot? Why can't folks just mind their own business. If you feel safe with the shot, fine. If others don't want it, that's fine to. It's there business. As far as Canada goes, I hope they do open because there are families up there that rely on the tourists to make a living. And what ever side you are on with this issue, I think we all agree that this has gone on for far to long. Kdawg |
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Location: oswego, il | kdawg - 7/16/2021 8:07 PM
I vaguely remember when this all started that the elected officials said the lockdowns were only supposed to be 2 weeks? I also see that some of the officials are offering beer and lottery tickets for people to get the shot? Why can't folks just mind their own business. If you feel safe with the shot, fine. If others don't want it, that's fine to. It's there business. As far as Canada goes, I hope they do open because there are families up there that rely on the tourists to make a living. And what ever side you are on with this issue, I think we all agree that this has gone on for far to long. Kdawg
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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion | God forbid that free people have different opinions on different subjects. Hmmm...
I hope they open the northern border..... perhaps like our Southern border.
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| Get the shot or stay home south of the border. I sure don't want you at The Northwest Angle without a shot. I hope anyone without full vaccination is not allowed to cross into Canada. Stay home and fish where you don't need vaccination. I hope you are safe and healthy, but I don't want to see if you don't have full vaccination. |
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| ToddM - 7/16/2021 8:11 P
This thread will be locked down shortly. Problem is people don't mind their own business vaccinated or not.
Probably still civil enough to avoid locking, but certainly veering into basement territory. |
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Location: Canada | ToddM - 7/16/2021 9:11 PM
This thread will be locked down shortly. Problem is people don't mind their own business vaccinated or not.
One thing these border status threads do, before people blow them up for freedom, is suggest that there's a group of US anglers who have decided to stop fishing muskies in Canada. |
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Location: oswego, il | mcnewbski - 7/16/2021 10:02 PM
ToddM - 7/16/2021 9:11 PM
This thread will be locked down shortly. Problem is people don't mind their own business vaccinated or not.
One thing these border status threads do, before people blow them up for freedom, is suggest that there's a group of US anglers who have decided to stop fishing muskies in Canada.
Hate is real absorbed on a daily basis and the buzz words shoot out of them like a machine gun. |
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| By the time the border opens this year the thread will have become "Which NWO launch still has enough water to get a boat in?" |
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| 'But it's the principle' is what a friend tells me.OK,fine but no one is trying to take away your 'fundamental truth' which,I guess is that vaccines are bad.Despite a history of saving millions over the years and despite nearly everyone of us having had multiple vaccines since birth.It certainly isn't that anyone is making anyone do something.Don't want the vaccine,don't do it.
Your 'freedom' principle isn't threatened but yet they criticize others exercising their 'freedom'.Brilliant thinking.
As to Canada and the border,they would be #*^@ foolish,IMO,to let anyone in without full vaccination.
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Location: deephaven mn | Kirby Budrow - 7/16/2021 4:27 PM
Actually what’s keeping things down are the liberals with their fear mongering. Not the unvaxed. The unvaxed are wide open living their lives.
is a viirus or a vaccination a politcal issue?
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| mcnewbski - 7/16/2021 10:02 PM
ToddM - 7/16/2021 9:11 PM
This thread will be locked down shortly. Problem is people don't mind their own business vaccinated or not.
One thing these border status threads do, before people blow them up for freedom, is suggest that there's a group of US anglers who have decided to stop fishing muskies in Canada.
It's similar to quitting smoking or watching NFL games. Lots of people talk, some try, few succeed. |
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Location: WI | To those who want to go to Canada but don’t want to get vaccinated I’m sure there are emerging markets to help you get there. |
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| raftman - 7/17/2021 7:53 AM
To those who want to go to Canada but don’t want to get vaccinated I’m sure there are emerging markets to help you get there.
Yes, we are a nation of entrepreneurs. Several folks already face criminal charges for producing g fake vaccination certificates. |
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| dickP - 7/17/2021 6:50 AM
'But it's the principle' is what a friend tells me.OK,fine but no one is trying to take away your 'fundamental truth' which,I guess is that vaccines are bad.Despite a history of saving millions over the years and despite nearly everyone of us having had multiple vaccines since birth.It certainly isn't that anyone is making anyone do something.Don't want the vaccine,don't do it.
Your 'freedom' principle isn't threatened but yet they criticize others exercising their 'freedom'.Brilliant thinking.
As to Canada and the border,they would be #*^@ foolish,IMO,to let anyone in without full vaccination.
That is what Carnival lines thought about cruise passengers and now they are in a legal battle with Florida, which forbids business from asking for proof of vaccination. A sovereign nation doesn't have to deal with that kind of thing |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | As I have said several times, we are perfectly free to get the shot, or not get the shot. I made my choice and did so without a lick of concern about what others think about it. That's freedom. Freedom also allows me to totally ignore those who disagree with me, or argue. In this case, my freedom-based choice is the former.
The border will open when the climate up there dictates it should. US folks down here have no say in that. Our combined actions, however, speak volumes. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya!!
I'm praying for the 7th of August so I don't lose my week through the 14th. If it does open that week, anyone want to join me? I need 4 - 5 spots filled... No joke!!
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| hey Stevo, im hoping ya get to go up there, but they are talking mid august at the moment if it happens at all... :/
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Location: Bloomington, MN | Has anyone heard if this possible opening includes the Northwest Territories and if we have the same requirements for entering the U.S.? |
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Location: Canada | Clark A - 7/18/2021 6:09 PM
Has anyone heard if this possible opening includes the Northwest Territories and if we have the same requirements for entering the U.S.?
It would be a federal-level decision which would apply to all provinces and territories, but it would not override provincial/territorial health rules. (in Canada health care is managed by the provinces/territories, individually, not the feds) so you should look into NWT specifics: https://www.gov.nt.ca/covid-19/en/self-isolation-requirements-0 |
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| i have traveled all over the world and pumped myself full of crap, in most all of those cases it was to protect myself.
it still amazes me that people are willing to take a vaccine to get access to something, and it not being about protecting themselves. that changed in one year, that is amazing to me. here is your fishing vaccine?
I am a Covid 19 survivor. And still have antibodies and not planning on getting vaccine anytime soon. when the time comes i will re access if i think there is a need or not for personal safety. My spot in the CDC data is very low risk.
Canada does not have the Healthcare infrastructure to handle a big outbreak, they hit capacity at very low numbers. It makes sense for them to be very cautious. But as much as the vaccine will help alleviate risk for some the overall treatments that have been developed are continuing to improve so hopefully this helps keep more people safe.
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Dave T. - 7/18/2021 3:01 PM
hey Stevo, im hoping ya get to go up there, but they are talking mid august at the moment if it happens at all... :/
that would suck to miss it by one week! fingers crossed for ya, we still have an early september reservation we are hoping to fill.
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I’m doing everything I can to stay hopeful. Might have to do a quick Labor Day trip for 2 days if that is all I get….
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| My trip isn't until August 28th, so I'm feeling pretty hopeful at this point.
But if it remains closed for whatever reason, I'm closing on a cabin on Vermilion in August as well so I've got a long term backup. Hope to be back on LOTW, but I'll deal with whatever happens. Not worth getting worked up over something I have no control over. |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Anyone remember a little thing like the Polio vaccine? Saved millions from grief. Nuf said. |
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| Larry Ramsell - 7/19/2021 10:18 AM
Anyone remember a little thing like the Polio vaccine? Saved millions from grief. Nuf said.
Yep, one of my earliest memories was of my mother holding my hand as we walked in line in a high school gym to get our sugar cube with the vaccine on it. I saw my mom cry twice. When her mother died and when we got the vaccine. Had friends my age later in life who had disabilities because of polio pre-vaccine. I don't think many under 70 know how horrible that was for kids. |
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| Lets see in the last 2 weeks we have 5 Yankee baseball players with Covid whom were "vaccinated" 5 more from the Dem defectors in Texas and more than 100 in the New England area. Not against a vaccine at all just not this one with so many issues and questions about them. Also a vaccine is a variant of the virus that it is meant to fight against. These "vaccines" are synthetic. They were never tested on anyone under the age of 21 or over the age of 55. Not tested on anyone with any type of medical condition what so ever. I will take the 99.8% chance that I can beat it rather than take a % I have zero idea what the short or long term effects will be. Not even 6 months into it we are already seeing many, many issues. |
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba | Larry Ramsell - 7/19/2021 10:18 AM
Anyone remember a little thing like the Polio vaccine? Saved millions from grief. Nuf said.
One of my profs was a bit too late for polio vaccine, so yes, remember it after I asked him what he got his limp from.
You guys should be celebrating, as it will be open soon for sure. Yes, the unvacc'd won't be coming, so more room for the rest. There are more fisher-folks (and muskie fishers) on both sides of the border than before this happened. Make sure to check the Canadian gov't sites for the requirements which will likely be the same as they are now (but no tourists now of course).
Hopefully I can get out for a few day trip before you guys start coming across....
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| ToTheWoods - 7/19/2021 10:57 AM
Lets see in the last 2 weeks we have 5 Yankee baseball players with Covid whom were "vaccinated" 5 more from the Dem defectors in Texas and more than 100 in the New England area. Not against a vaccine at all just not this one with so many issues and questions about them. Also a vaccine is a variant of the virus that it is meant to fight against. These "vaccines" are synthetic. They were never tested on anyone under the age of 21 or over the age of 55. Not tested on anyone with any type of medical condition what so ever. I will take the 99.8% chance that I can b
eat it rather than take a % I have zero idea what the short or long term effects will be. Not even 6 months into it we are already seeing many, many issues.
Need to look at data again, vaccines were indeed tested on folks under 21 and over 55. And from the beginning it was stated that the vaccines were 93 to 95% effective, not 100%. Also those who still get infected after vaccination are not getting nearly as sick. Virtually 100% of hospitalizations, which are rising are of the unvaccinated. |
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Location: Michigan U.P. | we will know more at 1330.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-border-measures-reopening-1....
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| So now the Vax question is replacing "What reel is best for 10s"?
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| Do you know math and percentages? 90% effective means 10% are still going to get it and most likely be symptomatic.
"Beating it" while being symptomatic is what allows the virus to mutate. We, as in humanity, will never beat this virus. Coronaviruses are a robust virus that are widespread and mutate with ease. Which is why Wuhan was studying them, with US and WHO backing at times, most recently with the backing of 45, aka Trump. Freedom as we thought we had will have a toll I fear. You trust science to make your reels, no stretch line, a boat, all your medicines... Give those up too if you don't trust science. |
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Location: SE, WI. | Your Correct, News I received, the border opens to fully Vaccinated 8/9/21  Apparently the Fat Lady Sung! JD
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| VMS - 7/19/2021 7:43 AM
Dave T. - 7/18/2021 3:01 PM
hey Stevo, im hoping ya get to go up there, but they are talking mid august at the moment if it happens at all... :/
that would suck to miss it by one week! fingers crossed for ya, we still have an early september reservation we are hoping to fill.
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I’m doing everything I can to stay hopeful. Might have to do a quick Labor Day trip for 2 days if that is all I get….
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| ARmuskyaddict - 7/19/2021 2:06 PM
So now the Vax question is replacing "What reel is best for 10s"?
I am at the point of my old and crabby hermit living life that if you don't get vaxxed, you don't get a bed in the hospital if vaxxed people need it. There's your Freedom.
That would be making people responsible for exercising their freedom. Can't do that in 'merica. Freedom is tossed around all the time but responsibility has gone the way of the dodo bird. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Now I have to find people. Shortened trip for sure but a trip nonetheless!!
I’m serious guys…. I need people!! I have a reservation set…
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| Great news!Hope it holds.
As to vaccines,I'm strongly in favor and had mine.However,I do understand the concern over the new RNA ones and if I wasn't ancient,well honestly not sure what I'd do.Likely wait til full testing is done I think.
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| dickP - 7/19/2021 2:54 PM
Great news!Hope it holds.
As to vaccines,I'm strongly in favor and had mine.However,I do understand the concern over the new RNA ones and if I wasn't ancient,well honestly not sure what I'd do.Likely wait til full testing is done I think.
Regardless,had it and can't wait!I live for Canadian fishing.
I too was somewhat concerned about the RNA process, but heard an extended interview with one of the scientists from Baylor where a lot of the development took place. They have been working on the process for years, starting with a way to combat ebola virus. Really a remarkable achievement, allowing for much quicker and safer response than old method of trial and error with live virus. One of those things that would be next to impossible without modern technology. |
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| North of 8 - 7/19/2021 11:15 AM
ToTheWoods - 7/19/2021 10:57 AM
Lets see in the last 2 weeks we have 5 Yankee baseball players with Covid whom were "vaccinated" 5 more from the Dem defectors in Texas and more than 100 in the New England area. Not against a vaccine at all just not this one with so many issues and questions about them. Also a vaccine is a variant of the virus that it is meant to fight against. These "vaccines" are synthetic. They were never tested on anyone under the age of 21 or over the age of 55. Not tested on anyone with any type of medical condition what so ever. I will take the 99.8% chance that I can b
eat it rather than take a % I have zero idea what the short or long term effects will be. Not even 6 months into it we are already seeing many, many issues.
Fully aware there 8. As I have consulted with my physician instead of just running like a lemming. My wife who has an auto-immune disease will not get the shot as her neurologist after much research and study has determined that risk is not worth the reward. Her research clearly shows whom was tested and what age and demographics there were in the testing prior to rolling out the "Vaccine".
Now she did not and nor I am saying that it isn't safe or reliable but the testing was so limited and so short (3 months ) that nobody knows what the long term affects may or may not be. Case in point enlarged hearts in males 30 and younger. All information that the Israel and Germany had of these affects for months prior to the US saying it was ok for this age group to get vaccinated. Follow the science right???
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| VMS - 7/19/2021 2:46 PM
Now I have to find people. Shortened trip for sure but a trip nonetheless!!
I’m serious guys…. I need people!! I have a reservation set…
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| greyghost - 7/19/2021 4:57 PM
OK, vaccinated US residents can cross Canadian border Aug 9th. However, I can't find any info about US decision to reopen. Would not like to cross over only to be denied re-entry, eh? .
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| greyghost - 7/19/2021 4:57 PM
OK, vaccinated US residents can cross Canadian border Aug 9th. However, I can't find any info about US decision to reopen. Would not like to cross over only to be denied re-entry, eh? .
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| greyghost - 7/19/2021 4:57 PM
OK, vaccinated US residents can cross Canadian border Aug 9th. However, I can't find any info about US decision to reopen. Would not like to cross over only to be denied re-entry, eh? .[/QUOTE
hmm, i just assumed they would be on the same page..
so we can go in, but we cant get back out possibly? thats ignorant..
i cant find any info on this, except that the US isnt allowing canadians to cross into the US, doesnt mention if you are a US citizen... :/
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| North of 8 - 7/19/2021 7:02 PM
Canada is well ahead of U.S.A. in vaccination rates.
I didn't realize that. They must have solved their supply issues. I know early on, they were clamoring to acquire vaccines. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Dave T. - 7/19/2021 3:59 PM
VMS - 7/19/2021 2:46 PM
Now I have to find people. Shortened trip for sure but a trip nonetheless!!
I’m serious guys…. I need people!! I have a reservation set…
Pm me
are you going to that island rental again steve?
That is the plan... want in on the trip?
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North of 8 - 7/19/2021 7:02 PM
Canada is well ahead of U.S.A. in vaccination rates.
I didn't realize that. They must have solved their supply issues. I know early on, they were clamoring to acquire vaccines.
It surprised me too but Wall Street Journal said at least 70% of adult Canadians have had at least one shot, which the WSJ described as one of the highest rates in the world.
The USA has not had a supply problem for a couple months, rather people are just choosing not to get vaccinated. Maybe we shipped our surplus north? Hope everything gets better and all the folks that want to fish Canada get the chance. Wonder how many of the lodges made it? |
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"No partially vaccinated people without quarantine. Everyone will still have to have a negative COVID-19 test before arrival. Proof of vaccination will have to be uploaded to the ArriveCAN app or website. Only vaccinations approved by Canada will be acceptable. Some travellers will still face random testing upon arrival so public health officials can track variants of concern. And just in case, you’d better have a full-fledged quarantine plan in hand if the border guards ask for it." |
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Location: Honor, MI | Info I saw on ArriveCan is dated July 5th, much of which no longer applies. Aside from proof of vaccination what else is required? Unless this app is updated to reflect the August 9th re-opening I have no clue. Do we show our proof (shot card) to a customs agent at the border along with our passport or what? |
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| Want to cross the border now? Apparently you can get a Canadian girlfriend who has a lodge in the family and head right over. Give me a break. Not a good look. Lots of heads turning on that one. |
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| if i had more vacation days i would absolutely want in!
hopefully you can find some peeps fast, or just go yourself! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | A press release from AML is on the way. |
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| Think it just closed again.Likely done for year. |
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| OOps,that may just be Canadians coming here.Bizarre and confusing. |
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Location: Alexandria, MN | So..... you can go to Canada after the 9th, but can't return until the 22nd (maybe?)? Does the travel ban extension affect Americans returning home? Asking for a friend...
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Location: Tulsa, OK | So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make? |
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba | phselect - 7/21/2021 10:14 AM
So..... you can go to Canada after the 9th, but can't return until the 22nd (maybe?)? Does the travel ban extension affect Americans returning home? Asking for a friend...
That's what it looks like. Flying you have some other options (3 day rapid test before going back). Winnipeg is now an entry point, so one option.
Hopefully we get some more rain up here (had a tiny bit recently), as it is a smoky forest fire and severe fire danger mess in Eastern Manitoba into NW Ont /LOTW region right now. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | heard on radio this morning that the requirement for a 15 day stay as yet hasn't changed.This was initially because of the 14 day quarantine but would still require change.
also heard that the border guards 3 years without a contract are taking a strike vote and while some will be deemed essential it will make for huge backups ( the ones working likely in bad mood)
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| phselect - 7/21/2021 10:14 AM
So..... you can go to Canada after the 9th, but can't return until the 22nd (maybe?)? Does the travel ban extension affect Americans returning home? Asking for a friend...
not confusing at all! hopefully we get some clarity on this stuff soon.... |
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Location: oswego, il | Just read the AML press release in it it said to cross we will need digital proof of vaccination
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| ToddM - 7/21/2021 11:07 AM
Just read the AML press release in it it said to cross we will need digital proof of vaccination
and this means what exactly?
the actual vaccination card isnt enough?? |
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| redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM
So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?
Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday. |
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Location: Roseau | I am lucky to be able to cross back and forth and they way things have been going since March will be interesting, every time a change happens not all things are considered or operate very smooth. Will be interesting to see what comes of all this Aug. 9th. One would think that as much time as both countries have been closed to each other they would have a plan in place to make things easy. |
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Location: Cheyenne, WY most of the year | Seems like you have to upload docs into arriveCan app. I haven't seen anything about having to spend 15 days minimum. We're crossing on the 9th. Fingers crossed |
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| As of today, it looks as if one can not enter Canada by water so even if one gets to The Angle, they will not be able to fish Canadian waters. |
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| Abu7000 - 7/22/2021 11:14 AM
As of today, it looks as if one can not enter Canada by water so even if one gets to The Angle, they will not be able to fish Canadian waters.
Doesn't the border restrictions end August 9?? |
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| Not by water...as of now...
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| Abu7000 - 7/22/2021 3:39 PM
Not by water...as of now...
august 9th that is supposed to change.. |
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| Not as of today according to the border officers...no plans to chahane this have been announced... |
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| Abu7000 - 7/22/2021 6:17 PM
Not as of today according to the border officers...no plans to chahane this have been announced...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/world/us-canada-border-opening/index....
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Location: Northern Illinois | See the bottom of the page. https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/prog/canpass/rabc-pfre/menu-eng.html |
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| https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/entering-canad...
Requirements for entering Canada by private boat
You currently cannot enter Canadian waters for optional reasons, such as:
touring
sightseeing
pleasure fishing
visits to cottages/vacation homes across the border
You must report to the Canada Border Services Agency if:
your vessel lands on Canadian soil at any point
your vessel anchors, moors or comes alongside another vessel in Canadian waters
anyone onboard disembarks in Canada
For more information on reporting and border clearance, consult:
Reporting requirements for private boaters |
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| thats now abu7000, that will change august 9th is what they are saying... |
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| ABU7000 and I both live at the Angle. I have been told by several of the resort owners no we will not be able to fish Canadian Waters after 8/9. They have been in discussions with CBSA. There is a very hefty fine they can levy if you are caught. But agree with all its BS |
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Location: Selkirk, Manitoba | Considering that it is not reciprocal, I don't see what benefit Canada gets by allowing US citizens staying at US resorts to come across and fish in Canada, spend nothing, and then go back. Actually it is only a net costs in increased border activity and paperwork that could be better utilized on paying tourists. Very simple math on that one.
The traffic in the well know current spots is going to be ugly enough as it is...
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| Dan Klis - 7/23/2021 3:35 PM
ABU7000 and I both live at the Angle. I have been told by several of the resort owners no we will not be able to fish Canadian Waters after 8/9. They have been in discussions with CBSA. There is a very hefty fine they can levy if you are caught. But agree with all its BS
well thats interesting.. so if you cross the border and go up and stay in canada, you can fish their waters, but you cant stay at a US resort and fish in canadian waters.. huh... that is lame.. |
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Location: Cheyenne, WY most of the year | Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous? |
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| SummerSchool - 7/26/2021 9:26 AM
Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?
Hard to guess what will happen but the New York Times story I read last week indicated Canada's focus was on their high rate of vaccination as opposed to the level of vaccination in the states. And they are requiring proof of vaccination for anyone entering. |
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| SummerSchool - 7/26/2021 9:26 AM
Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?
i dont think it will change because one, you have to be vaccinated to cross, and two, you have to have a negative test also to cross..
so technically you should be safe if you meet those 2 requirements..
but ya never know, especially with the low vaccination rates down here.. which i still dont understand myself... |
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| Proof of vacancies within 14 days, 72 hour negative test results, quarantine plan if you show symptoms while in Canada. I’m guessing that shrinks the amount of people that will “flood “ into Canada. |
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| SummerSchool - 7/26/2021 9:26 AM
Getting a little worried that our increased numbers are going to make canada not reopen. Anyone else getting nervous?
Yes. If that's the case hopefully we can get our deposit back and just fish up in the Cass Lake area... |
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Yes I do. |
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| pickolish1 - 8/13/2021 9:06 AM
Sorry for the late post.
Yes I do.
lol! i think you may be correct! i just hope it stays open now! |
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Location: Tulsa, OK | North of 8 - 7/21/2021 11:24 AM
redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM
So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?
Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday.
Let's not confuse the temp workers with the influx of thousands coming across daily. Many who have COVID. Just makes no sense to shutdown 1 border and let another one go like the turnstyles at Disney World. |
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| redskeet100 - 8/13/2021 12:31 PM
North of 8 - 7/21/2021 11:24 AM
redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM
So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?
Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday.
Let's not confuse the temp workers with the influx of thousands coming across daily. Many who have COVID. Just makes no sense to shutdown 1 border and let another one go like the turnstyles at Disney World.
The thousands coming across the southern border are not entering legally. They cross rivers, deserts and even mountains to get in. If we really wanted to stop them, we would require all employers to use the E-Verify system. But, since big dairy farms, meat processors, etc. want plenty of cheap labor, that is not done.
If my family was starving, I would try and find a better life, even if it meant crossing a border illegally. We should throw the folks that hire illegals in jail, that would take care of the issue. Before I retired, I worked for a federally chartered bank. To set up a checking account we had to verify the SS# with the feds, similar to the E-Verify pre-employment check. On just about a weekly basis we denied checking accounts for folks who brought in pay checks from farms. The SS# was bogus, or belonged to someone with a different name, age, gender, etc.. |
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Location: oswego, il | North of 8 - 8/13/2021 7:02 PM
redskeet100 - 8/13/2021 12:31 PM
North of 8 - 7/21/2021 11:24 AM
redskeet100 - 7/21/2021 10:27 AM
So the US has decided to extend the closure of the Canadian and Mexico borders thru Aug 21st. But they allow a couple hundred thousand thru the Mexico border all year. What sense does this make?
Well, every year there are thousands of temp visas granted for agricultural workers. We wouldn't have any produce in our grocery stores without them. Me, I like to eat.
Noah's Ark, the largest water park in the world in Wis. Dells had trouble getting enough foreign workers this year so they close every Wednesday.
Let's not confuse the temp workers with the influx of thousands coming across daily. Many who have COVID. Just makes no sense to shutdown 1 border and let another one go like the turnstyles at Disney World.
The thousands coming across the southern border are not entering legally. They cross rivers, deserts and even mountains to get in. If we really wanted to stop them, we would require all employers to use the E-Verify system. But, since big dairy farms, meat processors, etc. want plenty of cheap labor, that is not done.
If my family was starving, I would try and find a better life, even if it meant crossing a border illegally. We should throw the folks that hire illegals in jail, that would take care of the issue. Before I retired, I worked for a federally chartered bank. To set up a checking account we had to verify the SS# with the feds, similar to the E-Verify pre-employment check. On just about a weekly basis we denied checking accounts for folks who brought in pay checks from farms. The SS# was bogus, or belonged to someone with a different name, age, gender, etc..
When you only bite on the fear and hate narrative the rest is jibberish. |
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so do you think the border will actually open next month?