No Memory Mono?
North of 8
Posted 4/24/2021 1:32 PM (#979353)
Subject: No Memory Mono?




Not for musky fishing, but I always like to spend May fishing for panfish. Drives me crazy that I so often have to respool the ultra light spinning reels because of the "memory" of the light weight mono resulting in the line curling. Any recommendations for mono or floro that won't have this issue? Thanks for any advice.
horsehunter
Posted 4/24/2021 3:06 PM (#979358 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




Location: Eastern Ontario
I very seldom use mono for casting much any more but I would always stretch out a little more than a cast length before I started fishing sometimes soaking the spool in warm water helps.
jdsplasher
Posted 4/24/2021 4:06 PM (#979362 - in reply to #979358)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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Location: SE, WI.

Try Berkley XL at all?  Sometimes opening up spool while you motor and letting out 2/3rds of the spool the coils will straighten.

 JD 

TCESOX
Posted 4/24/2021 5:09 PM (#979364 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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I have found both putting the spool in warm water, and letting out bare line behind the boat, to be helpful. When letting the line out behind the boat, be sure to start slow enough to make sure the line is sinking below the surface, to create a little more drag.

While I have never used it, I saw a demo on TV a couple of years ago, of the use of KVD line conditioner. It appeared to work quite well, at least on TV.
North of 8
Posted 4/24/2021 8:05 PM (#979365 - in reply to #979364)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




Thanks for the suggestions, I will give them a try. I have tried different brands, with limited success.
FlyPiker
Posted 4/25/2021 11:01 AM (#979382 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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From my experience, it just comes with the territory. Haven't found a brand that does better than any other. Already some good tips on getting it to straighten out. Mono does deteriorate faster than other options too so there's always the fresh line option.
ghoti
Posted 4/25/2021 11:58 AM (#979386 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: RE: No Memory Mono?




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Location: Stevens Point, Wi.
I switched over to 8 or 10# test braid and use a fluro leader. The line lasts for years with no memory and casts just as easy as mono.
sworrall
Posted 4/25/2021 5:35 PM (#979393 - in reply to #979386)
Subject: RE: No Memory Mono?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
ghoti - 4/25/2021 11:58 AM

I switched over to 8 or 10# test braid and use a fluro leader. The line lasts for years with no memory and casts just as easy as mono.


Same here, but no leader. The crappies care not.
North of 8
Posted 4/25/2021 6:24 PM (#979396 - in reply to #979393)
Subject: RE: No Memory Mono?




sworrall - 4/25/2021 5:35 PM

ghoti - 4/25/2021 11:58 AM

I switched over to 8 or 10# test braid and use a fluro leader. The line lasts for years with no memory and casts just as easy as mono.


Same here, but no leader. The crappies care not.


This may be the way to go. Really have not thought of lighter test braid but makes sense.
Rob C
Posted 4/25/2021 10:20 PM (#979400 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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I use 5lb braid on my ultralight, no leader either. Only issue is the diameter is almost too small when you go to that light of a braided line.
ToddM
Posted 4/26/2021 12:27 AM (#979403 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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Location: oswego, il
The only time I don't use braid is for slip bobbers. For some reason braid seems to not slide well through the bobber.
kdawg
Posted 4/26/2021 6:58 AM (#979407 - in reply to #979396)
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By using braid for crappies, would you guys run into the issue of tearing the hook out of a crappie's paper thin mouth? Kdawg
sworrall
Posted 4/26/2021 8:30 AM (#979411 - in reply to #979407)
Subject: RE: No Memory Mono?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
kdawg - 4/26/2021 6:58 AM

By using braid for crappies, would you guys run into the issue of tearing the hook out of a crappie's paper thin mouth? Kdawg[/QUOTE

No, I haven't seen an issue there. I'm using Vexan crappie rods and the action is perfect to stick the fish and get it in the boat.
RJ_692
Posted 4/26/2021 8:32 AM (#979412 - in reply to #979353)
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i have good luck with co polymer lines
W8N4SNO
Posted 4/26/2021 9:28 AM (#979415 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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Location: Minnesota
4lb fireline crystal has been my go to for crappies fishing. Actually switched some of my walleye and bass gear over as well.
North of 8
Posted 4/26/2021 12:27 PM (#979421 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




Lightest braid I could find locally was 8#. Really thin, should work fine for crappie/gills.
Not sure why, just have always used mono for panfish rods, while using braid from 20 to 100# for everything else.
sworrall
Posted 4/26/2021 4:15 PM (#979437 - in reply to #979353)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
This is the line I have been using, one spool lasts all year even with my crazy hours on the water.
Bass/walleye:
https://www.reactiontackle.com/collections/braided-fishing-line/prod...

Crapie/bluegills

https://www.reactiontackle.com/collections/braided-fishing-line/prod...

1500 yard spools for 40 bucks.
North of 8
Posted 4/26/2021 4:45 PM (#979439 - in reply to #979437)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




sworrall - 4/26/2021 4:15 PM

This is the line I have been using, one spool lasts all year even with my crazy hours on the water.
Bass/walleye:
https://www.reactiontackle.com/collections/braided-fishing-line/prod...

Crapie/bluegills

https://www.reactiontackle.com/collections/braided-fishing-line/prod...

1500 yard spools for 40 bucks.


Really good deal.
sworrall
Posted 4/26/2021 9:38 PM (#979454 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Good stuff. It's 4 strands braid, and in the smaller diameters, that's good. You'll hear 8 is better, but in the tiny diameters of 10# superline that means fraying easier from my experience.
ToddM
Posted 4/26/2021 11:27 PM (#979459 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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Location: oswego, il
This is good discussion. I've spoiled with nanofil and with the BPS narrow spool reel design (like the old US reel) on an 8' slip bobber rod I can cast #4 and 5 shad raps much farther than a buddy of mine with the same reel, similar rod but he has a standard braid in a similar diameter. I know distance isn't always a factor but in the circumstances we are casting it is.
musky513
Posted 4/27/2021 10:18 AM (#979465 - in reply to #979353)
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Steve- Have you used that brand braid in the larger pound tests as well?
hawkeye9
Posted 4/27/2021 2:54 PM (#979477 - in reply to #979403)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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Location: Perryville, MO
ToddM - 4/26/2021 12:27 AM

The only time I don't use braid is for slip bobbers. For some reason braid seems to not slide well through the bobber.


I bluegill fish alot. Always with slip bobbers. And I absolutely agree. Not only does it not slip consistently, but will also cut a groove in any bobber that does not have a metal ring which will render the bobber useless. (By the way, having lived in the South this long it wasn't natural writing bobber any longer as down here it's called a "cork.")
hawkeye9
Posted 4/27/2021 3:01 PM (#979478 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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Location: Perryville, MO
I should say that I do really like using braid for casting jigs. Reaction tackle line has worked well for me the last few years. And, I agree with Steve that in 10lbs test 4 strand has worked quite well for tossing small jigs.
sworrall
Posted 4/27/2021 10:11 PM (#979496 - in reply to #979465)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
musky513 - 4/27/2021 10:18 AM

Steve- Have you used that brand braid in the larger pound tests as well?


Up to 40#. Larger pound test I look for 8 strand. RT uses 4 up to 120#.
sworrall
Posted 4/27/2021 10:16 PM (#979497 - in reply to #979477)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
hawkeye9 - 4/27/2021 2:54 PM

ToddM - 4/26/2021 12:27 AM

The only time I don't use braid is for slip bobbers. For some reason braid seems to not slide well through the bobber.


I bluegill fish alot. Always with slip bobbers. And I absolutely agree. Not only does it not slip consistently, but will also cut a groove in any bobber that does not have a metal ring which will render the bobber useless. (By the way, having lived in the South this long it wasn't natural writing bobber any longer as down here it's called a "cork.")


Those of us who are snooty call them floats. Unless the pannies are deeper than 10, I use a fixed float. If it's bluegills and crappies deeper then a vertical presentation using tungsten (Kenders Outdoors) with no float is the key.

A slip bobber messes up my 'float jigging' technique. I use those for more static presentations over nasty cover and rubble.

Wait... I meant bobbers.
hawkeye9
Posted 4/28/2021 12:31 PM (#979511 - in reply to #979353)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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Location: Perryville, MO
"Float" works for me, Steve, as I am a bit snooty when it comes to bulls.

I'm a live bait guy for 'gills most often. And, down here for us, that means almost exclusively crickets. However, I do 100% agree that a fixed cork (I mean bobber) is important to get the "lifted swinging" action for a proper float jigging technique. Otherwise, you are just raising the bait in place. We do this for crappie at times, but I much prefer chasing bluegills as they make far better dinner fare in my estimation.

We fish bluegills most often in 6 to 14 feet of water. Staying away from these fish on these large flats with your boat is important especially for the largest specimens. Hence, the reason we employ slips. I've become so accustom to using slips I don't even change them out when we beat the banks for shallow spawners. While we will fish vertical for crappie, we almost never do for bluegills. If they are set up super deep in the summer and we decided to go out and trouble a school of big ones we will long-line drift.
ghoti
Posted 4/29/2021 10:17 AM (#979527 - in reply to #979403)
Subject: Re: No Memory Mono?




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Location: Stevens Point, Wi.
ToddM - 4/26/2021 12:27 AM

The only time I don't use braid is for slip bobbers. For some reason braid seems to not slide well through the bobber.


Not an expert here but with slip bobbers I've had good luck with Suffix 832. As stated previously, use a float, bobber, cork with a metal insert at the top. Also, the beads that come with slip bobber knots have a very small hole that may hang up when using light baits. I use beads with larger holes as long as the knot wont pass the knot through the bead.