Drying rack help...
MuskieE
Posted 12/28/2003 11:46 AM (#91810)
Subject: Drying rack help...





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Location: Appleton,WI
Just a quick question for the novice lure builders,Drying rack rpms??3 or 5 rpms?

What motor are you using?or where did you find it?
Snowcrest 6
Posted 12/28/2003 1:20 PM (#91815 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...




Posts: 303


Location: Valentine, NE USA
I think the one I have is 4rpm. Got it off of eBay.


It's an older, heavy-duty Rotisserie motor, but works like a charm.

Since I'm out of the painting business, I'll be more than happy to make you a great deal on it. Send me an e-mail. If you'd like pics, let me know.


Brian


caveman670
Posted 12/28/2003 11:42 PM (#91889 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...




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I found a old 110 volt humid. motor spins about 3-5rpms. I customized
a 1/4" shaft disk sander pad {plastic} from the hardware store and put
6 screw eyes in it to hold the baits when there drying.

Just a thought

RonP
xllund
Posted 12/29/2003 9:15 AM (#91902 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...




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I got my motors from a local supplier here in Chi-town. The RPM on them is 5.4 Just a tip for you, keep in mind the outer diameter dimension when you decide on a motor. The larger the diameter, the faster the baits will turn through free air.
MuskieE
Posted 12/29/2003 10:23 PM (#91986 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...





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Location: Appleton,WI
dont you mean the larger the diameter the slow they turn?

Is to fast not good?
Snowcrest 6
Posted 12/29/2003 11:58 PM (#91991 - in reply to #91986)
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Location: Valentine, NE USA
Eric-

too fast is not good. the topcoat will flow towards the rear, rather than set up in place. too slow is just as bad...for the same reason.

12.50


Brian
MuskieBum
Posted 12/30/2003 4:06 PM (#92078 - in reply to #91810)
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Think of it like the gear ratio on a reel. The bigger the diameter the faster it will move.
MuskieE
Posted 12/30/2003 5:24 PM (#92088 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...





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Location: Appleton,WI
Then to explain how the thick coats are applyed its just multiple coats,Has nothing to do with speed?

Edited by MuskieE 12/30/2003 5:25 PM
MuskieBum
Posted 12/31/2003 11:25 AM (#92145 - in reply to #91810)
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You need to get the right speed in order for it not to pool up. I painted the baits yesterday and I'll be finishin them up today.
xllund
Posted 12/31/2003 12:41 PM (#92153 - in reply to #91810)
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Yes MuskieE, if you want a thick coating on the bait, you are looking at multiple coats. Depending on the product used, and number of coats, this will give you the desired effect.

Just to review your question, even though the RPM is the same whether the diameter is 1" or 15", it is the FPM or IPS, (Feet Per Minute, Inches Per Second) traveled that determines the velocity as measured at that point.

One possible way to calculate the speed you need is to work backwards. Make your drying drum first, measure the diameter at which the baits are mounted, determine how fast you want them to turn, which will give you the RPM based on that diameter. Then get the motor that you want, and calulate the speed ratio between the motor and the drum. Either belt or chain drive the drum with the correct sprocket ratios, and your all set!

Good luck to you and a Happy New Year!
sworrall
Posted 12/31/2003 1:17 PM (#92166 - in reply to #92153)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
99 cent spray paint. Dries in 60 seconds. Looks like poo ( as Slamr would sasy) but needs no dry rack. Keep up the good work, gents, so I have baits that look good in the box next to my incredibly ugly handmades.
Kingfisher
Posted 1/4/2004 2:23 AM (#92392 - in reply to #92166)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
I use a rotisserie motor with an adapter to a rectangular frame. My painting racks slide into the frame and are locked into place with a wing nut. I can tumble 48 baits at time on one rig or 96 on two. Tumbling end for end works great with the bigger baits like 12 to 15" Deepthreats. I rack my smaller baits two per rack. Racks are like an H shape.the rotisserie speed works so good I have no plans on replacing them. At 25 bucks apiece there isnt a more cost effective motor for what we are doing. I got mine at Meijers next to the Grills. Kingfisher
Mark H.
Posted 1/4/2004 7:36 PM (#92429 - in reply to #91810)
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Location: Eau Claire, WI
Eric...

Previous post on rotiserie motors is a good tip. I have one that I can do 1-4 baits at a time on. It sounds like he has a better system for doing production numbers.

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h2os2t
Posted 1/4/2004 10:28 PM (#92434 - in reply to #91810)
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Location: Freedom, WI
Kingfisher do you have any pictures that you could post it sounds like yours works pretty good.

Roger
Kingfisher
Posted 1/5/2004 7:35 PM (#92550 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
Hi Guys, I dont have any pics of the drying rack. but its very simple to build.Emmail me if you would like a sketch. I can scan a drawing and email it back. The paint racks are the key as they set on a little stand for painting then transfer to the rectangular rack which hold as many as 24 paint racks of two baits per rack. They are shaped like an H with a 1/4" screw out each end. The lures are held by a spring at one end and a hook at the other. Its easier to email a picture so send me a request and ill shoot out a couple of pics. I just finished 20- 6" twitch baits and am shoooting some spoons tonight. Ill have new pics at my website of some of our new stuff in a couple of days. Check them out. we are having a blast getting ready for Pittsburg . Im hoping to have have over 500 baits there this year. The biggest problem we have is every time we shoot some new ones I cant pry them away from my wife. I keep finding them hidden in her tackle boxes. She has become quite a bait maker herself. Our new Rippin Shad is all her design. Its a hardwood sinking shad with a tight wobble like a rattle trap.Two lead pockets and dremmel work on the belly(gill plate). I caught a fish on the first day testing this little bugger out. Yes a system for turning your lures while epoxy clear coats are setting up is a must. I let mine run all night and the roticerie motors dont even get warm. Im building another set of paint racks so I can be painting one set while the other ones are turning. Its going to be a busy winter here .
msmith0903
Posted 1/5/2004 7:46 PM (#92552 - in reply to #91810)
Subject: RE: Drying rack help...




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Location: charleston wv
I use a Dayton gear reduction motor available at Grainger stores. The cost is about $150.00 However if you are making baits year in and year out the cost would be easily absorbed. The motors last a very long time. A fellow W.V. baitmaker is still using the same motor he started with. He's been making baits for about 25 years. Please post if you want additional info. I'd be glad to help. Mark Smith( Smuttly Dog Baits)
MuskieBum
Posted 1/5/2004 8:25 PM (#92554 - in reply to #91810)
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I'll second what msmith said. I use a Dayton and have had no troubles.


h2os2t
Posted 1/5/2004 8:54 PM (#92563 - in reply to #92550)
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Location: Freedom, WI
Thanks Kingfisher By that last post I figured out what you have thanks for the info.

Roger