muskie boat design
crippler
Posted 12/12/2003 12:18 AM (#90582)
Subject: muskie boat design




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Location: winnipeg manitoba
hey you now have the chance to be heard. what would you feel are the key elements in your dream muskie boats design.what would it look like inside and how would it be set up. any input would be welcome. the limitiation is that the boat is not glass, alum.only.....i am going to build one with a major manufactuer and want your feedback. thanks again....craig
kevin
Posted 12/12/2003 9:05 AM (#90605 - in reply to #90582)
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Location: Chicago, Beverly
Rear casting deck would be a big one for me. Plenty of storage wouldn't hurt. Built in gas tank under front deck maybe.
52isntbigenough
Posted 12/12/2003 9:07 AM (#90606 - in reply to #90582)
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Location: Germantown & Land O Lakes WI
1) Wide Beam, 96"
2) Deep V
3) Less than 20"deep
4) Huge casting platforms on the bow and stern
5) 60" live well that auto circulates and has a temp probe.
6) No color breaks in the pain scheme, one solid color
7) Has to be a tiller with the capability of a 100+ motor
8) 25" Transom height for backtrolling
9) It wont have the patented 45ยบ transom....those are darn ugly.
Fish-n-Freak
Posted 12/12/2003 9:42 AM (#90614 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Location: Alexandria, MN
I have been happy with my Alumacraft TP195 with 90hp Tiller -- BUT

I would like to have a larger rear casting deck, and a higher front deck. I would like to go to a dual console instead of the tiller and then add some storage for rods that are 8 feet long!

I have fished small and Very Big water, I get wet sitting in the back running the tiller. If you can take a look at the Dual Console Tourny Pro and make a few changes, you would have a great Muskie Boat. I went with the Alumacraft over the Lund, because of the lower profile = easier releases. The Lund just sits too high, keeps you drier, but I like to keep the fish in the water and the Alumacraft just makes it easier.

The Ranger 621 I fished out of this last fall, would be my #1 pick!

Posted 12/12/2003 9:53 AM (#90618 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design


Lockable rod storage for 8' rods, a windscreen / console design that allows you to walk those non commital musky's completely around the boat.

Lots of room for Trolling Motor Batteries, gotta have Juice.
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 12/12/2003 10:19 AM (#90624 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Location: Rhinelander.
would love two pedistal seat bases on the back deck. Each one closer to the boats gunnel. This way older clients could sit and cast and not have to bend over or get up to do a good figure 8. As you get older standing and casting for hours on end is hard, It would be great if you had rough water also.
Also like to see some built in storage to hang about 50 of your favorites baits.
Don Pfeiffer
Phish Killer
Posted 12/12/2003 12:52 PM (#90649 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota
Is Lund finally going to design a musky boat?

Muskie Treats
Posted 12/12/2003 5:35 PM (#90674 - in reply to #90582)
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Bait hanger storage compartment. 100 baits min with a section for spinnerbaits.
The Handyman
Posted 12/12/2003 7:36 PM (#90685 - in reply to #90582)
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A slot or cubby hole under the front deck(which is wasted space anyways(just under the live well) say 2/3" just big enough to slide a beckman into!That would be so nice to have a designated spot for a big net!Been think`in about gett`in the sawzall out this winter and putting one in the Lowe myself!
crippler
Posted 12/12/2003 7:36 PM (#90686 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Location: winnipeg manitoba
some great input so far, but i know we can do better .please help with your ideas this is important.......thanks craig
jyoung
Posted 12/12/2003 8:02 PM (#90692 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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crippler,
Dry ride
Lots of dry storage
8'rod locker
large rear casting deck with more dry storage
cup holders
gunnels that are at least 3 inches wide for mounting rod holder tracks
60" live well and a 24" bait well with built in netting
hydraulic cylinders on all compartments
That's all I can think of at this time, Jeff


Edited by jyoung 12/12/2003 8:06 PM
crippler
Posted 12/12/2003 9:53 PM (#90709 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Location: winnipeg manitoba
some great ideas guys keep it up....thankx craig

Posted 12/12/2003 10:22 PM (#90711 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design


I like handy's idea about net storage!!! and maybe someplace to put pleirs/hookcutter/spreaders so they are easy to get too from anyhwhere in the boat and are originized.

Posted 12/13/2003 5:33 AM (#90719 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design


Just look at the ranger 618
sworrall
Posted 12/13/2003 8:49 AM (#90723 - in reply to #90719)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Look at the Tuffy Esox Deep V, the Skeeter Deep Vs, the Patriot 1690, 1710, and 2050 T and C, the Lund Pro V, the Ranger Fisherman series and the Crestliner. Seems like the best of all desires that CAN be put in a Muskie rig are in these rigs.

Many times asking for an item in a boat and actually being able to implement it are at odds. I think the largest issues are a 9' rod locker, ample storage, and the storage should be dry. At rest stability is a must. Big livewells, and baitwells, too. Tackle storage, but not dedicated, as many anglers don't want their lures under a lid, and many do. Workable decks, front and rear. Keep the console rear of the rocker, at least a foot, for several reasons. At least 13" side tanks, no lips or extrusions on the edges to catch with one's feet. Batteries in the center to center front for the troller, in the floor.

I have been through this process several times, with three muskie models I helped design in one line, two in another, and four in another still  out on the market. Making a wish for a design is way different than getting a marine compliance specialist and manufacturing manager to agree to implement, for about as many reasons as one can count. That is why, in the end, what you see on the market today in Multi Specie and Muskie rigs have so many similarities.

crazycanuck
Posted 12/13/2003 5:01 PM (#90745 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
1) Tackle storage integrated into the boat that can accommodate large muskie lures (including cranks, jerks, spinnerbaits, and bucktails)

2) Cup holders

3) Large rod locker to accommodate 8 foot rods with large reels

4) Reinforced rodholder mounting locations and/or downrigger mounting locations - preferably 4 across the back and 2 midship

5) Net and cradle storage large enough to accommodate a PowerCatch Big Game or Big Kahuna

6) The entire interior design must allow easy movement within the boat - nothing to trip on, step over, smash a shin on etc.

7) A full fisherman's top with rear curtains for those nasty November and December days (many seasons have recently been extended to Dec. 15)
JAY SBMC
Posted 12/13/2003 9:28 PM (#90757 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Location: DES MOINES, IOWA
One thing I would like to see is tackle box storage in the deck,where it is out of my way, but close to where I can get at it.I also would like a place to hang lures on the boat close to me that I am using that day, instead of laying them on the deck.Of course there would have to be a cover, otherwise I would end up hooking my leg or other body parts.I need to have a non cluttered area to make landing a fish easier than walking thru a mine field.Between 3 tackle boxes, and numerous lures all over my deck, it is amazing I haven,t had more accidents than I have had.
crippler
Posted 12/15/2003 11:22 PM (#90911 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Location: winnipeg manitoba
last chance for your input some great ideas so far , i meet friday so speak now or hold your ideas will not be repersented.....thanks again craig
fishhunter3
Posted 12/16/2003 4:02 AM (#90915 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Removable rear deck.
Large rod locker 8' min.
Lots of space at helm for electronics.
Deep V that sits low in the water.
Front deck has to be large and high in the boat like on most bass boats.
At least two seat bases on front deck one up close to bow for those of us that use a tiller control bow mount.
Hanging tackle storage and tackle trays.
Bait well with bait bucket don't care about size of live well just needs to hold a few pan fish and some walleye.
Gunwales wide enough for rod holders but not to wide 3"-4" for ease of working on fish

Thats about all I cam thimk of at this time.

Larry
fishhunter3


GMan
Posted 12/16/2003 10:12 AM (#90949 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island
There absolutely needs to be a place for huge Beckmans so they are not always stepped on, blowing out or in the way, yet easily accessible. I always wonder why a large slot in the floor cannot be made to accomodate them.
Musky Killer
Posted 12/16/2003 11:37 AM (#90979 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design




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Muskie Treats
Posted 12/16/2003 12:12 PM (#90990 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Nonskid instead of carpet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate carpet! Hooks snag. It gets dirty and smelly. I makes the boat look old. Why do people insist on putting it in their boats. Yes I know Patriot and Warrior doesn't have it and you can now special order a Triton w/o it also. That's only 3 out of a hundred freshwater boats (that I know of).

Spray out the boat and your done. That's the way to go IMOP.
esox420
Posted 12/16/2003 1:36 PM (#91011 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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Location: Winneconne, WI
A lot of good ideas. I love the net slot idea. I have a Ranger 617 and like everything about it. I also use a new Pro V quite abit in the summer months. One thing I like about the Pro V are the quality cup holders (especially the one on the bow). Sounds silly, but I can't count how many time I have drinks spilled in my boat.

Also, an emergency ladder built into the back like the new Tritons. I fish by myself quite abit and if I ever fell in, I'm not sure if I would be able to pull myself in, especially loaded down with clothes. All I can say is I hope Ranger looks into it soon.

A 12 volt plug up front would be a nice thing also. Otherwise, nothing else that the others have mentioned.

Brad
jyoung
Posted 12/16/2003 4:07 PM (#91026 - in reply to #90582)
Subject: RE: muskie boat design





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A large Gas tank at the least 40 gal. and it should probably be low in the boat, Like under the floor.
Jeff