Finally the Results
CincySkeez
Posted 4/15/2020 9:38 AM (#957919)
Subject: Finally the Results





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https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/sports/outdoors/5040992-What-are-m...
ake-part-of-Minnesota-diet-study-on-four-major-game-fish



Finally some good info. Unless you are a crank that thinks the DNR is crooked

Edited by CincySkeez 4/15/2020 9:40 AM
Vilas15
Posted 4/15/2020 9:54 AM (#957923 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: Re: Finally the Results




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Link didn't work for me. Found the article on the sports page, blocked behind a subscription paywall. Care to give us the main points?
VMS
Posted 4/15/2020 9:58 AM (#957924 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: Re: Finally the Results





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
https://www.postbulletin.com/sports/outdoors/what-are-muskies-eating...
innesota-diet-study-on-four/article_8f2aa572-7f18-11ea-8673-77bb613f8934.html
VMS
Posted 4/15/2020 10:07 AM (#957927 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: Re: Finally the Results





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Main Points:

Perch make up about 8% of the Muskie's diet by mass, but was found at a 65% rate in the stomach contents of the fish on Miltona. Not eating frequently, but when they do, it usually a larger item of some sort.

Walleyes only made up 1.5% of the contents found, which comes out to less than 2% of the overall mass eaten.

Not much overlap in feeding habits of walleyes and Muskies, nor were walleyes the tareted species being eaten.

Walleyes, Northerns, and Bass were much more related in what they eat...

One step closer to having even more good information.

Steve
Rotorhead
Posted 4/15/2020 10:32 AM (#957930 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: Re: Finally the Results




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Location: West Central WI
The second line of the site shown from both CincySkeez and VMS missed the hyperlink. If you highlight the entire address, including the second line which is part of it, then copy and paste into your browser and you will see the page.

I'm going to try again and see if this works right from the site you should be on:

https://www.postbulletin.com/sports/outdoors/what-are-muskies-eating...
Vilas15
Posted 4/15/2020 10:40 AM (#957931 - in reply to #957930)
Subject: Re: Finally the Results




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Rotorhead - 4/15/2020 10:32 AM

The second line of the site shown from both CincySkeez and VMS missed the hyperlink. If you highlight the entire address, including the second line which is part of it, then copy and paste into your browser and you will see the page.

I'm going to try again and see if this works right from the site you should be on:

https://www.postbulletin.com/sports/outdoors/what-are-muskies-eating...


That worked for me. Thanks.

Edited by Vilas15 4/15/2020 10:43 AM
musky513
Posted 4/15/2020 10:47 AM (#957932 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: Re: Finally the Results




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That’s an interesting read
Cfollow
Posted 4/16/2020 11:50 AM (#958081 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: RE: Finally the Results


None of this will really matter to the "muskies are eating all my walleyes" crowd. They are really more of a stay off "my" lake crowd anyway.
North of 8
Posted 4/16/2020 12:09 PM (#958083 - in reply to #958081)
Subject: RE: Finally the Results




Cfollow - 4/16/2020 11:50 AM

None of this will really matter to the "muskies are eating all my walleyes" crowd. They are really more of a stay off "my" lake crowd anyway.


Maybe, don't know. But in the lake association I belong to, I have seen some pretty heated discussions between guys that own property on the lake and fish musky and the owners who fish walleyes. One guy, a walleye fisherman, was upset he couldn't catch a limit every time he went out and was blaming muskies. Another guy finally said, "gee, if you can't afford groceries, we could take up a collection to help out". Not sure that guy fished for anything, just tired of hearing the walleye guy whine. Got a pretty good laugh from others.
R/T
Posted 4/16/2020 1:00 PM (#958094 - in reply to #957919)
Subject: RE: Finally the Results




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Pretty much matches the Wisconsin study in the 1990s on 1,092 muskies from 34 different lakes. In summary:

For the 375 stomachs (34.3%) containing 582
food items, the combined volume of food was
16,130 mL (Table 5). Fish composed 98% of the
volume of food, and the 547 fish items included
12 families and 31 species. Overall the two most
important food items for muskellunge were yellow
perch (RI 5 25) and catostomids (RI 5 21; Table
5). Yellow perch represented 30% of the total number of prey but only 17% of the total volume of
prey (Table 5). Conversely, catostomids represented only 8% of the total number of prey items
but 47% of the total volume of food. Cyprinids
(RI 5 7), walleye, Micropterus spp., and esocids
ranked low in the muskellunge diet (RI , 4 for
each prey type). Unidentifiable fish made up 17%
of all food items and 3% of the total volume. The
35 nonfish items (2% of the total volume of food)
included crayfish, aquatic insects, frogs, mudpuppies, tadpoles, and one mouse.
In each of the eight lakes that had a minimum
sample size of 15 muskellunge, patterns in RI values varied somewhat, but yellow perch and catostomids were consistently important in muskellunge diets. Yellow perch were the most important
(highest RI values) of the identifiable prey in five
lakes and second most important in three lakes.
Catostomids were the most important of the identifiable prey in three of the eight lakes and second
most important in three others.
VMS
Posted 4/16/2020 1:37 PM (#958098 - in reply to #958081)
Subject: RE: Finally the Results





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Cfollow - 4/16/2020 11:50 AM

None of this will really matter to the "muskies are eating all my walleyes" crowd. They are really more of a stay off "my" lake crowd anyway.


I believe this to be true to an extent as well... It has been drilled into many minds that muskies were bad for the walleyes and many don't want more people on their lakes casting all around as well. Probably a healthy combination of both.

At least with more data, people like our wonderful representatives/senators around the brainerd area won't be able to use the argument that muskies are eating the walleyes like they have in the past. More good data like this helps the scientific cause on things...

Steve
phselect
Posted 4/17/2020 8:09 AM (#958172 - in reply to #958098)
Subject: RE: Finally the Results




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Location: Alexandria, MN
VMS - 4/16/2020 1:37 PM

Cfollow - 4/16/2020 11:50 AM

None of this will really matter to the "muskies are eating all my walleyes" crowd. They are really more of a stay off "my" lake crowd anyway.


I believe this to be true to an extent as well... It has been drilled into many minds that muskies were bad for the walleyes and many don't want more people on their lakes casting all around as well. Probably a healthy combination of both.

At least with more data, people like our wonderful representatives/senators around the brainerd area won't be able to use the argument that muskies are eating the walleyes like they have in the past. More good data like this helps the scientific cause on things...

Steve

This^ If nothing else, more data to bolster our side of the argument.