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| I prefer to tie and crimp my leaders and I have a few spools of 180lbs fluoro that I would like to make leaders with. I've used the dubro nail-knot tool but even 150lbs fluoro can be a huge hassle with getting the loops to stay tight and in place while not having the tool latch fling open from the line. I can only imagine how big of a pain 180 would be.
Is there a trick to manipulating the thicker (180+) fluoro so that it does work better and you get the nice tight loops with the little nail notter tool or do leader makers like stealth etc. use different techniques/devices?
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Location: Walker, MN | FWIW, I use a 4 wrap uni knot and tighten with a pliers on the tag end. From what I can tell, this is what most of the GT guys use too for 200# leader, except they probably aren't adding a crimp. |
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| In the salt I think a 3 turn uni knot would be used. |
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Location: Walker, MN | EastCoastSkiis - 4/2/2020 3:07 PM
In the salt I think a 3 turn uni knot would be used.
Come to think of it, I've been using 4 wraps for 150# and 3 wraps for 200#. |
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| Well, it really depends on the line. As long as you can cinch it down tightly and correctly. Maybe 4 turns would be good for some lines and 3 turns would be better for others.
In my experience fishing heavy fluoro and mono over the last few years in the salt, a lot of people overdo it with the number of turns they make with their knots. I usually get better knots with the fewest possible turns. Same thing with the San Diego Jam knot. A lot of people always say to make 6 or even 7 turns. I usually make only 4 turns unless it’s really thin line like #40 or under and then I will probably make 5 turns. |
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Location: Northern Illinois | Lee Tauchen's method of tying floro is what I use. It takes a little practice but once you get the hang of it, it works well.
http://online.fliphtml5.com/uncx/jrxa/ |
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| RLSea - 4/2/2020 10:56 PM Lee Tauchen's method of tying floro is what I use. It takes a little practice but once you get the hang of it, it works well. http://online.fliphtml5.com/uncx/jrxa/Tauchen's reverse nail knot is great, and you can tie it "almost" easily (it still takes some care) with a Magnum Tie-Fast tool. For muskie leaders, make sure it's the MAGNUM size tool: http://tie-fast.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=1&zenid=49edacdaa9f07cad5f181eeff0f93ada https://youtu.be/AaPHbT6qxsE |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I also use Lee Tauchen's method with 150 lb Seaguar. It makes it easier for me if I leave a little extra tag end. End up clipping a little more off but it makes the wraps easier to manage. I finish the tag end with a crimp so mine are knotted and crimped. Maybe overkill but theu won't cone loose.
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Location: Clintonville, WI |
I like this knot as well ^^.
** A "few" years ago, I'm going to say 2004 +/- a year, there was a day long "mini-show" at Crazy D's in Elk Mound, WI. Iowa pro Lance Christensen was a speaker and he also showed the group a fluoro knot that was relatively easy. For the life of me I can't remember how to tie it, but I do remember 1) you tied the knot at both ends of the leader, no crimps needed, just a little lube to cinch it tight 2) if you did it correctly, the tag end would be 90 degrees out from the main leader section.
Anyone else there that day or know what knot I'm referencing? |
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Tying leaders with 180lbs + fluoro