Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?
Mallards-n-Muskies
Posted 11/17/2003 8:35 AM (#88318)
Subject: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?




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Location: Madison, WI
I was wondering which type of critters works best for jig fishing - creatures, reapers, lizards? or does it really matter what type of plastic body you're using? Is it more the speed of the lure and being in the right place at the right time?



crazycanuck
Posted 11/17/2003 12:22 PM (#88350 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
I have had good success with a bass style flippin' jig (Nichols 1/2 oz is my preference) and a plastic crayfish. I have also substituted the crayfish for 8" lizards and had similar success. The key is to work it SLOW along weedlines and weed/rock/boulder complexes. Try it early in the season next year, you will be surprised at the results.
MuskieBum
Posted 11/17/2003 12:42 PM (#88353 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?




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I prefer using ones with a squirming tail. I've herd most people think that the flat tail works better, but I don't like the action of reapers.
what do you guys think?
52isntbigenough
Posted 11/17/2003 1:04 PM (#88354 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Germantown & Land O Lakes WI
If I'm jig fishing for Musky, I use a good weedless jig and Red Tailed Chubs...nothing beats live bait.
muskyboy
Posted 11/17/2003 1:18 PM (#88357 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?


Magnum Bull Dawgs, Regular Bull Dawgs, Fuzzy Duzzits, and Suckers.

I also like Lindy Tubes and Sluggos as throw back baits, but not for jigging
Luca Cattin
Posted 11/17/2003 1:22 PM (#88358 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Padova - Italy
I think the Jig man Steve Worrall can show you the best knowledge about muskie fishing with jig.
I can only refer to big pike where jig fishing is a sort of specialization today. I’ve realized that jig is probably the ultimate bait for pike, even big pike. I think there is a time, spot, retrieve for grub, lizard, double tails, reapers, tube baits, shad tails... In the last three years I have had my best big pike catches using big “swimming jigs” tied with bucktail head and 8’’ single grubs trailers, fished mainly with straight retrieve, slow or fast depend of situation, or jigging fast.
dennis b
Posted 11/17/2003 3:03 PM (#88373 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?




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Tony Portincaso ;
Where are you when we need you ?
Would you please advise ?
Please come back and lend some knowledge to weedline fishing ....

dennis
sworrall
Posted 11/17/2003 6:08 PM (#88392 - in reply to #88373)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

dennis b,

Tony was actually a very close family friend back when the first standup jig was developed on our kitchen table in Wauconda, Illinois. Jim Cairnes was actually as influential as anyone  developing variations of my Dad's design, and several of his own. Jim, Cairnes, Larry Latino, Frank Rondone, Buell Coley, the Mc Bride brothers, Tony, and many others spent quite a bit of time at the house, and on the water with my Dad, who was considered one of the very best. He still is!

The original stand up jig was developed for a plastic worm from the Squirm N Jig model. My Dad later brought a bunch of Harold Ensley's Reapers back from Arkansas, adding those to the arsenal. The reaper was and is a total muskie triggering tail!

Lizards came later,about the time superglue showed up. We used lizars alot, but the tail was very fragile and was gone after one pike. It was Shelly Cairnes who first welded a destroyed reaper (the part on the jig was all beat up) to a destroyed lizard(the tail was gone) usng a cigarette lighter.She simply cut off the reaper head, and the lizard tail, and POOF!! the newest thing in soft plastics for toothy critters was borne.

STeve Quandt from Tuffy was fishing with me in 1978, and asked when I produced one of those conglomerations, "What kind of creature is THAT?" The name stuck.

I went on to work with Jim, Paul Repka from Rockford, and a few others on creature and jig designs after I had moved here in the very early 70's. I also did several designs for Stembrige Products, who built the Fliptail Lizard. I combined two different tails for them on different body styles to create the Fliptail Creature.  I was known as 'the creature man' for nearly a decades, until I sold my interest to Moore's Lures.

The current model is the original, with a twister tail on the hinder.

The entire idea behind the different body styles is drop speed. I work a jig VERY fast all year long for muskies, so drop time after reeling is about 3 to 6 seconds, depending on the depth I am fishing and the style of the tail. I usually use a Fliptail or a combo Fliptail/Reaper handmade.

The twister tail styles drop the slowest, the paddle tails like the one Jim and I designed are second slowest, and the twister tail slowest of all. I have a couple articles in the article section about creatures, take a look.

Musky_Slayer
Posted 11/17/2003 7:13 PM (#88394 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?




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Location: Pewaukee WI
cool history

When you say "Very fast" what kind of sink rate are we talking? 2ft per sec? seems like reapers just sink way to freaken fast, even with 1/4 ouce jigs.



sworrall
Posted 11/18/2003 12:29 AM (#88421 - in reply to #88394)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
To clarify, I am casting the creature about 60', and hopping it back. If I use my standard spinning tackle, and do three turns fast, I will 'jump' the lure vertically about 3 to 31/2', a three count with a reaper and a 1/3 oz jig.
lobi
Posted 11/18/2003 7:17 AM (#88427 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Holly, MI
muskyboy.. How are you fishing the fuzzy-duzzit? I would be afraid of hang-ups if I was jigging it along the bottom. I have casted and jig retrieved it in deep water, but with no success. I want this lure to produce! help
or anyone else with fuzzy experiance.
Shep
Posted 11/18/2003 10:03 AM (#88455 - in reply to #88427)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Vertical jigging the Duzzit. Rip it up a couple feet, let it fall on a tight line. Repeat till you can't do it anymore. Not something I want to do for more than a half hour. This is how Dave Dorazio fullfills his masochistic desires. He makes some of his clients jig a Duzzit till their arms fall off!

Edited by Shep 11/18/2003 10:05 AM
muskyboy
Posted 11/18/2003 1:28 PM (#88491 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?


Lobi,

The Fuzzy Duzzit I just vertically jig bringing it up two to three feet on a pull, and then let it sink back. The smaller ones you can cast out and walk back. I do this in areas with rocky bottoms mostly, and if it was a weedy area I would use a Bull Dawg instead.

Steve
divani
Posted 11/18/2003 3:09 PM (#88509 - in reply to #88318)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?





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Location: Belgium
I really like the ones i got from muskyone but I never had a strike on them. I fish them every time I go fishing but to no avail so far. I must be doing something wrong?!
dennis b
Posted 11/19/2003 7:12 AM (#88552 - in reply to #88392)
Subject: RE: Jig Fishing - What Style of Critter Works Best?




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Steve;
Is the Grassel Co. still in business or did anyone take over the
product line.I believe they had something called the Double o jig that
was a type of planing head .It would be nice to get them again .
dennis